(12-06-2015 02:57 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:11 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:06 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:02 AM)mkb627 Wrote:  I also posted this in College Sports and Conference Realignment Board but also wondered what you guys have to say about this. Go Tigers!

You would not expect for the final standings and the four teams of the College Football Playoff to be #1 Clemson vs. #4 Oklahoma and #2 Alabama vs. #3 Michigan State.

The problem I have is with the Big 12. As you know, the Big 12 has only 10 teams and no conference championship game. (They need an expansion, not back to 12 teams but to 14 teams).

Last year the Big 12 got left out of the College Football Playoff for not having a championship game (and deservedly so) and that was a little show to the Big 12 that they need a change; and they did not make one.

This year Oklahoma is getting into the College Football Playoff easily, even with a loss to a bad Texas team. Oklahoma did not have to risk a loss in an extra game and Oklahoma did not have to risk men [to injury] in an extra game.

Iowa had no losses going into the Big 10 Championship Game vs. a really good Michigan State team, but unfortunately will miss the College Football Playoff because they had to play the extra game that Oklahoma did not have to play.

Stanford also is not a benefactor from this... They have had a great season with wins over Notre Dame and USC and I think that they should get in... Although they have two losses, they are to two really good football teams; Northwestern and Oregon.

If I was my choice... I would like to see #1 Clemson vs. #4 Stanford or Iowa and #2 Alabama vs. #3 Michigan State... in that case it would be the champion from the ACC vs. Pac-12 and SEC vs. Big Ten.

I know you guys might not agree with this but I just want to put my opinion out there. Thanks!

Other teams didn't "have" to play extra game. Conferences CHOOSE to have championship games. Tough luck to those who lost for extra revenue. Greed.

If they want to be the conference champ they absolutely have to play.

Oklahoma played everyone in their conference and were the outright champions of the Big 12. So what exactly are you talking about?

I was referring to the other conferences. Iowa could not have elected to sit out the Big 10 championship game last night and declared themselves Big 10 champs and been in the playoffs...

(12-06-2015 08:09 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 02:57 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:11 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:06 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:02 AM)mkb627 Wrote:  I also posted this in College Sports and Conference Realignment Board but also wondered what you guys have to say about this. Go Tigers!

You would not expect for the final standings and the four teams of the College Football Playoff to be #1 Clemson vs. #4 Oklahoma and #2 Alabama vs. #3 Michigan State.

The problem I have is with the Big 12. As you know, the Big 12 has only 10 teams and no conference championship game. (They need an expansion, not back to 12 teams but to 14 teams).

Last year the Big 12 got left out of the College Football Playoff for not having a championship game (and deservedly so) and that was a little show to the Big 12 that they need a change; and they did not make one.

This year Oklahoma is getting into the College Football Playoff easily, even with a loss to a bad Texas team. Oklahoma did not have to risk a loss in an extra game and Oklahoma did not have to risk men [to injury] in an extra game.

Iowa had no losses going into the Big 10 Championship Game vs. a really good Michigan State team, but unfortunately will miss the College Football Playoff because they had to play the extra game that Oklahoma did not have to play.

Stanford also is not a benefactor from this... They have had a great season with wins over Notre Dame and USC and I think that they should get in... Although they have two losses, they are to two really good football teams; Northwestern and Oregon.

If I was my choice... I would like to see #1 Clemson vs. #4 Stanford or Iowa and #2 Alabama vs. #3 Michigan State... in that case it would be the champion from the ACC vs. Pac-12 and SEC vs. Big Ten.

I know you guys might not agree with this but I just want to put my opinion out there. Thanks!

Other teams didn't "have" to play extra game. Conferences CHOOSE to have championship games. Tough luck to those who lost for extra revenue. Greed.

If they want to be the conference champ they absolutely have to play.

Oklahoma played everyone in their conference and were the outright champions of the Big 12. So what exactly are you talking about?

I was referring to the other conferences. Iowa could not have elected to sit out the Big 10 championship game last night and declared themselves Big 10 champs and been in the playoffs...

If you have more than 10 teams you have to play a championship game...

How on earth are you going to have divisions where some teams don't play others, it is possible for there to be 2 undefeated teams in that scenario.

(12-06-2015 08:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 08:09 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 02:57 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:11 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:06 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  Other teams didn't "have" to play extra game. Conferences CHOOSE to have championship games. Tough luck to those who lost for extra revenue. Greed.

If they want to be the conference champ they absolutely have to play.

Oklahoma played everyone in their conference and were the outright champions of the Big 12. So what exactly are you talking about?

I was referring to the other conferences. Iowa could not have elected to sit out the Big 10 championship game last night and declared themselves Big 10 champs and been in the playoffs...

If you have more than 10 teams you have to play a championship game...

How on earth are you going to have divisions where some teams don't play others, it is possible for there to be 2 undefeated teams in that scenario.

Same thing happens when one division is loaded-no difference.

(12-06-2015 08:33 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 08:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 08:09 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 02:57 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:11 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  If they want to be the conference champ they absolutely have to play.

Oklahoma played everyone in their conference and were the outright champions of the Big 12. So what exactly are you talking about?

I was referring to the other conferences. Iowa could not have elected to sit out the Big 10 championship game last night and declared themselves Big 10 champs and been in the playoffs...

If you have more than 10 teams you have to play a championship game...

How on earth are you going to have divisions where some teams don't play others, it is possible for there to be 2 undefeated teams in that scenario.

Same thing happens when one division is loaded-no difference.

No it is not...

The west is loaded in the SEC and they win the championship every year because they play a championship game.

The west was loaded in the AAC this year and they won the championship game and are champions.

Unless you are talking about the team who is considered the 2nd place team is screwed in the stronger division, then yes I agree with you, but the the champion is decided on the field.

(12-06-2015 08:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 08:09 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 02:57 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:11 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:06 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  Other teams didn't "have" to play extra game. Conferences CHOOSE to have championship games. Tough luck to those who lost for extra revenue. Greed.

If they want to be the conference champ they absolutely have to play.

Oklahoma played everyone in their conference and were the outright champions of the Big 12. So what exactly are you talking about?

I was referring to the other conferences. Iowa could not have elected to sit out the Big 10 championship game last night and declared themselves Big 10 champs and been in the playoffs...

If you have more than 10 teams you have to play a championship game...

How on earth are you going to have divisions where some teams don't play others, it is possible for there to be 2 undefeated teams in that scenario.

Right, see a few posts above where I said; "If they want to be the conference champ they absolutely have to play."

(12-06-2015 11:22 AM)dcg141 Wrote:  OU and Texas will always get in because, well they are OU and Texas. Anyone else wins the Big 12 and they are on the outside looking in. Let a 1 loss MS State or Vanderbilt win the SEC and see if they get in. The fix for the big names is still in.

This. If Texas and Oklahoma had finished with Baylor and TCU records last year, one of them would have been in. Baylor and TCU, no. Prejudice.

(12-06-2015 08:37 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 08:33 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 08:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 08:09 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 02:57 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Oklahoma played everyone in their conference and were the outright champions of the Big 12. So what exactly are you talking about?

I was referring to the other conferences. Iowa could not have elected to sit out the Big 10 championship game last night and declared themselves Big 10 champs and been in the playoffs...

If you have more than 10 teams you have to play a championship game...

How on earth are you going to have divisions where some teams don't play others, it is possible for there to be 2 undefeated teams in that scenario.

Same thing happens when one division is loaded-no difference.

No it is not...

The west is loaded in the SEC and they win the championship every year because they play a championship game.

The west was loaded in the AAC this year and they won the championship game and are champions.

Unless you are talking about the team who is considered the 2nd place team is screwed in the stronger division, then yes I agree with you, but the the champion is decided on the field.

When you play round robin schedule it is determined on field.

Remember back a couple of months ago when Bowlsby said his deregulation looked certain to pass. And some of us called bull****, and said he didnt say what part of deregulation he was even referring to?

It sounds like it was bullsh*t.