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Schools generally prefer that their coaching searches be conducted in private, away from prying eyes. This secrecy allows them to do things like say the coach they hired was their first choice, even if it was their fourth.

Well, on Saturday night we learned that whoever South Carolina hires, the school won't be able to say it was its first choice.

It seems that the Gamecocks offered their job to Arizona coach Rich Rodriguez. We know this because Wildcats athletic director Greg Byrne came out on Twitter and straight up said it happened.

Greg Byrne
Greg Byrne – Verified account ‏@Greg_Byrne

Great news! @CoachRodAZ did not commit to the offer from S. Carolina. He's an Arizona Wildcat. #BearDown
8:01 PM - 5 Dec 2015
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...hing-offer

Actually surprised that RichRod didn't take the job.

(12-06-2015 12:29 AM)Maize Wrote:  From the Article:

Schools generally prefer that their coaching searches be conducted in private, away from prying eyes. This secrecy allows them to do things like say the coach they hired was their first choice, even if it was their fourth.

Well, on Saturday night we learned that whoever South Carolina hires, the school won't be able to say it was its first choice.

It seems that the Gamecocks offered their job to Arizona coach Rich Rodriguez. We know this because Wildcats athletic director Greg Byrne came out on Twitter and straight up said it happened.

Greg Byrne
Greg Byrne – Verified account ‏@Greg_Byrne

Great news! @CoachRodAZ did not commit to the offer from S. Carolina. He's an Arizona Wildcat. #BearDown
8:01 PM - 5 Dec 2015
569 RETWEETS517 LIKES


http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...hing-offer

Well that's pretty classless. What goes around comes around.

don't see why SC would be better than Arizona

(12-06-2015 12:47 AM)ClemVegas Wrote:  don't see why SC would be better than Arizona

the SEC has deeper pockets and more prestige. Also, from a quality of life standpoint, South Carolina is really, really nice - albeit, I hear Columbia is a dump.

(12-06-2015 12:54 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:47 AM)ClemVegas Wrote:  don't see why SC would be better than Arizona

the SEC has deeper pockets and more prestige. Also, from a quality of life standpoint, South Carolina is really, really nice - albeit, I hear Columbia is a dump.

You shouldn't respond based upon what you hear. I've been to Columbia many times. It simply doesn't have the awesome advantage of being on the South Carolina coast. But, Columbia is a nice city with reasonable amenities. But other than the "dump" part the rest of what you say is true.

(12-06-2015 01:08 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:54 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:47 AM)ClemVegas Wrote:  don't see why SC would be better than Arizona

the SEC has deeper pockets and more prestige. Also, from a quality of life standpoint, South Carolina is really, really nice - albeit, I hear Columbia is a dump.

You shouldn't respond based upon what you hear. I've been to Columbia many times. It simply doesn't have the awesome advantage of being on the South Carolina coast. But, Columbia is a nice city with reasonable amenities.

Columbia is a sprawling dump. There is absolutely nothing going on there but the university because of the university.

(12-06-2015 12:54 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:47 AM)ClemVegas Wrote:  don't see why SC would be better than Arizona

the SEC has deeper pockets and more prestige. Also, from a quality of life standpoint, South Carolina is really, really nice - albeit, I hear Columbia is a dump.

No doubt South Carolina is a bigger program than Arizona in football.

Coaching in the PAC is better where every road trip is a sweet road trip.

(12-06-2015 01:10 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:54 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:47 AM)ClemVegas Wrote:  don't see why SC would be better than Arizona

the SEC has deeper pockets and more prestige. Also, from a quality of life standpoint, South Carolina is really, really nice - albeit, I hear Columbia is a dump.

No doubt South Carolina is a bigger program than Arizona in football.

Coaching in the PAC is better where every road trip is a sweet road trip.

I don't think that coaches get to enjoy the location, aside from the visiting stadium, and SEC gameday atmospheres are a lot of fun.

(12-06-2015 12:40 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  Actually surprised that RichRod didn't take the job.

His daughter still goes to Arizona. That may have had some influence in the choice?

(12-06-2015 01:14 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:10 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:54 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:47 AM)ClemVegas Wrote:  don't see why SC would be better than Arizona

the SEC has deeper pockets and more prestige. Also, from a quality of life standpoint, South Carolina is really, really nice - albeit, I hear Columbia is a dump.

No doubt South Carolina is a bigger program than Arizona in football.

Coaching in the PAC is better where every road trip is a sweet road trip.

I don't think that coaches get to enjoy the location, aside from the visiting stadium, and SEC gameday atmospheres are a lot of fun.

Southeast climate vs Southwest climate is a no contest comparison. The Southwest wins at every single season.

(12-06-2015 01:10 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:08 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:54 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:47 AM)ClemVegas Wrote:  don't see why SC would be better than Arizona

the SEC has deeper pockets and more prestige. Also, from a quality of life standpoint, South Carolina is really, really nice - albeit, I hear Columbia is a dump.

You shouldn't respond based upon what you hear. I've been to Columbia many times. It simply doesn't have the awesome advantage of being on the South Carolina coast. But, Columbia is a nice city with reasonable amenities.

Columbia is a sprawling dump. There is absolutely nothing going on there but the university because of the university.

Hey, I love Auburn too. But it's because it is laid back, somewhat scenic (though not quite as pretty as Clemson) and has the University. That said I traveled the Southeast rather extensively. Compared to Montgomery, Atlanta, Birmingham, New Orleans, Macon, Knoxville, Memphis, Shreveport, and some others its really pleasant. So I guess all things are relative.

But as far as stacking up against Charleston, Myrtle Beach, The Beaufort / Hilton Head area, Savannah, Jekyll Island/Sea Island, Fernandina Beach, Orange Park/Mandarin, St. Augustine, Charlotte, Chattanooga and Raleigh/Durham no it is not a happening place, but still far from a dump. BTW there is no sprawl like Jacksonville sprawl.

(12-06-2015 01:19 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:10 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:08 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:54 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:47 AM)ClemVegas Wrote:  don't see why SC would be better than Arizona

the SEC has deeper pockets and more prestige. Also, from a quality of life standpoint, South Carolina is really, really nice - albeit, I hear Columbia is a dump.

You shouldn't respond based upon what you hear. I've been to Columbia many times. It simply doesn't have the awesome advantage of being on the South Carolina coast. But, Columbia is a nice city with reasonable amenities.

Columbia is a sprawling dump. There is absolutely nothing going on there but the university because of the university.

Hey, I love Auburn too. But it's because it is laid back, somewhat scenic (though not quite as pretty as Clemson) and has the University. That said I traveled the Southeast rather extensively. Compared to Montgomery, Atlanta, Birmingham, New Orleans, Macon, Knoxville, Memphis, Shreveport, and some others its really pleasant. So I guess all things are relative.

But as far as stacking up against Charleston, Myrtle Beach, The Beaufort / Hilton Head area, Savannah, Jekyll Island/Sea Island, Fernandina Beach, Orange Park/Mandarin, St. Augustine, Charlotte, Chattanooga and Raleigh/Durham no it is not a happening place, but still far from a dump.

*Knoxville is also surprisingly nice, and I've always liked Chattanooga.
*New Orleans is an absolute dump in pretty much every way, but I love it. Weirdly enough, I think that it's dumpiness is part of the charm.
*IMHO, Birmingham and Atlanta makes the dentist's office seem really attractive.
**Heck, I'd consider living in Chapel Hill before I lived in Atlanta, and there aren't words for how much I dislike CH.

(12-06-2015 01:26 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:19 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:10 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:08 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:54 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  the SEC has deeper pockets and more prestige. Also, from a quality of life standpoint, South Carolina is really, really nice - albeit, I hear Columbia is a dump.

You shouldn't respond based upon what you hear. I've been to Columbia many times. It simply doesn't have the awesome advantage of being on the South Carolina coast. But, Columbia is a nice city with reasonable amenities.

Columbia is a sprawling dump. There is absolutely nothing going on there but the university because of the university.

Hey, I love Auburn too. But it's because it is laid back, somewhat scenic (though not quite as pretty as Clemson) and has the University. That said I traveled the Southeast rather extensively. Compared to Montgomery, Atlanta, Birmingham, New Orleans, Macon, Knoxville, Memphis, Shreveport, and some others its really pleasant. So I guess all things are relative.

But as far as stacking up against Charleston, Myrtle Beach, The Beaufort / Hilton Head area, Savannah, Jekyll Island/Sea Island, Fernandina Beach, Orange Park/Mandarin, St. Augustine, Charlotte, Chattanooga and Raleigh/Durham no it is not a happening place, but still far from a dump.

*Knoxville is also surprisingly nice, and I've always liked Chattanooga.
*New Orleans is an absolute dump in pretty much every way, but I love it. Weirdly enough, I think that it's dumpiness is part of the charm.
*IMHO, Birmingham and Atlanta makes the dentist's office seem really attractive.
**Heck, I'd consider living in Chapel Hill before I lived in Atlanta, and there aren't words for how much I dislike CH.

The sad thing about Chapel Hill is that it is the attitude that poisons the atmosphere but that attitude is not native Carolinian as much as it is Corporate. But I absolutely know what you mean. As for Knoxville parts of it are charming, and other parts you don't need to be in after dark. I enjoyed and agreed with much of the rest of your analysis.

(12-06-2015 01:17 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:40 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  Actually surprised that RichRod didn't take the job.

His daughter still goes to Arizona. That may have had some influence in the choice?

Maybe so. Keeping his family in Tucson could be enough to tip the balance in favor of Arizona over South Carolina. Who knows, maybe his wife even said that if he took the South Carolina job she would stay in Tucson with their daughter. Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.

(12-06-2015 01:19 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:10 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:08 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:54 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:47 AM)ClemVegas Wrote:  don't see why SC would be better than Arizona

the SEC has deeper pockets and more prestige. Also, from a quality of life standpoint, South Carolina is really, really nice - albeit, I hear Columbia is a dump.

You shouldn't respond based upon what you hear. I've been to Columbia many times. It simply doesn't have the awesome advantage of being on the South Carolina coast. But, Columbia is a nice city with reasonable amenities.

Columbia is a sprawling dump. There is absolutely nothing going on there but the university because of the university.

Hey, I love Auburn too. But it's because it is laid back, somewhat scenic (though not quite as pretty as Clemson) and has the University. That said I traveled the Southeast rather extensively. Compared to Montgomery, Atlanta, Birmingham, New Orleans, Macon, Knoxville, Memphis, Shreveport, and some others its really pleasant. So I guess all things are relative.

But as far as stacking up against Charleston, Myrtle Beach, The Beaufort / Hilton Head area, Savannah, Jekyll Island/Sea Island, Fernandina Beach, Orange Park/Mandarin, St. Augustine, Charlotte, Chattanooga and Raleigh/Durham no it is not a happening place, but still far from a dump. BTW there is no sprawl like Jacksonville sprawl.

In the summertime it's absolutely miserable with mid to upper 90's, matching humidity and hordes of gnats and mosquitoes. Gangs have taken over Five Points, the Main St revitalization has been an absolute joke, and you can't find any parking in The Vista. You don't have anywhere near the nightlife of Greenville or Charleston, nor anywhere near the historic, cultural attractions or cuisine of Charleston. The only difference between Columbia and Spartanburg is about 15 degrees and 10% humidity in the summer and the University of South Carolina.

(12-06-2015 01:44 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:19 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:10 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 01:08 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 12:54 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  the SEC has deeper pockets and more prestige. Also, from a quality of life standpoint, South Carolina is really, really nice - albeit, I hear Columbia is a dump.

You shouldn't respond based upon what you hear. I've been to Columbia many times. It simply doesn't have the awesome advantage of being on the South Carolina coast. But, Columbia is a nice city with reasonable amenities.

Columbia is a sprawling dump. There is absolutely nothing going on there but the university because of the university.

Hey, I love Auburn too. But it's because it is laid back, somewhat scenic (though not quite as pretty as Clemson) and has the University. That said I traveled the Southeast rather extensively. Compared to Montgomery, Atlanta, Birmingham, New Orleans, Macon, Knoxville, Memphis, Shreveport, and some others its really pleasant. So I guess all things are relative.

But as far as stacking up against Charleston, Myrtle Beach, The Beaufort / Hilton Head area, Savannah, Jekyll Island/Sea Island, Fernandina Beach, Orange Park/Mandarin, St. Augustine, Charlotte, Chattanooga and Raleigh/Durham no it is not a happening place, but still far from a dump. BTW there is no sprawl like Jacksonville sprawl.

In the summertime it's absolutely miserable with mid to upper 90's, matching humidity and hordes of gnats and mosquitoes. Gangs have taken over Five Points, the Main St revitalization has been an absolute joke, and you can't find any parking in The Vista. You don't have anywhere near the nightlife of Greenville or Charleston, nor anywhere near the historic, cultural attractions or cuisine of Charleston. The only difference between Columbia and Spartanburg is about 15 degrees and 10% humidity in the summer and the University of South Carolina.

Well I haven't been there in about a decade, but once traveled it regularly. I like Greenville, but love the coast. I was just saying that compared to many cities in the Southeast it is far from a dump (or at least used to be).

Columbia is a nice town, it has some rough looking areas like West Columbia but the Vista and 5 points has as good a nightlife as anywhere else.

there are a lot of Clemson 'rednecks' who get all worked up about Columbia but that is just b/c USC is there.

I find parking in the Vista to not be an issue, much better situation than Charleston or Greenvile.

New rumor is that South Carolina will name Muschamp their new head coach.

Quote:Pete Thamel
‏@SIPeteThamel

Update on Muschamp to South Carolina. Source says there's an "agreement in principle" in place for Will to be next coach there.

10:47 PM - 5 Dec 2015

Muschamp is a decent hire. he has some energy and you need that to recruit these days.

he got screwed over at Florida, he could have had the same season or better with Florida this year as the new coach did. lol good defense,no offense. got to have a godo QB