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Did Miami have a heads up on Richt's availability?
Miami had 5-6 weeks after Golden's firing to look for a coach. And there were several names mentioned.
Yet, 3 days after Richt gets fired at Georgia, they hire him.
Seems suspicious that they may have got some info from Georgia about the Bulldogs' plans. I'm not suggesting that there would have been anything wrong with Miami and Georgia ADs talking.
Or it could be as simple as Miami thought there was a small chance Richt would be available and decided to roll the dice and wait.
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RE: Did Miami have a heads up on Richt's availability?
(12-05-2015 02:33 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: Miami had 5-6 weeks after Golden's firing to look for a coach. And there were several names mentioned.
Yet, 3 days after Richt gets fired at Georgia, they hire him.
Seems suspicious that they may have got some info from Georgia about the Bulldogs' plans. I'm not suggesting that there would have been anything wrong with Miami and Georgia ADs talking.
Or it could be as simple as Miami thought there was a small chance Richt would be available and decided to roll the dice and wait.
Or more likely Richt knew his precarious position early on because he did not have hostile relations with University of Georgia officials (just some boosters) and he made the inquiry to Miami.
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RE: Did Miami have a heads up on Richt's availability?
(12-05-2015 02:37 PM)JRsec Wrote: (12-05-2015 02:33 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: Miami had 5-6 weeks after Golden's firing to look for a coach. And there were several names mentioned.
Yet, 3 days after Richt gets fired at Georgia, they hire him.
Seems suspicious that they may have got some info from Georgia about the Bulldogs' plans. I'm not suggesting that there would have been anything wrong with Miami and Georgia ADs talking.
Or it could be as simple as Miami thought there was a small chance Richt would be available and decided to roll the dice and wait.
Or more likely Richt knew his precarious position early on because he did not have hostile relations with University of Georgia officials (just some boosters) and he made the inquiry to Miami.
Also, when you get a chance to hire Richt, you take it. IMHO, firing him was a mistake.
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RE: Did Miami have a heads up on Richt's availability?
People have been expecting Richt to be hurled out for years now.
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12-05-2015 02:54 PM |
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RE: Did Miami have a heads up on Richt's availability?
(12-05-2015 02:54 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: People have been expecting Richt to be hurled out for years now.
Yeah, what people miss on this board is the fact that for three years Georgia had the deck stacked in its favor to win the East and get a shot at the SEC CCG and beyond. And for three years the school from the East with the best recruiting class, whose rivals were all down, failed to win even one of those divisional titles. That more than anything else led to his dismissal. The total of dashed expectations these past three years therefore outweighed the body of his work at Georgia.
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RE: Did Miami have a heads up on Richt's availability?
The head-coaching job at the University of Georgia is among the best in the country. I have little doubt that Kirby Smart will do fabulously well there.
However, it is always, always, always dangerous to fire a coach who is winning but not quite enough. Sometimes it works out. Most times it does not.
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RE: Did Miami have a heads up on Richt's availability?
(12-05-2015 02:59 PM)JRsec Wrote: (12-05-2015 02:54 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: People have been expecting Richt to be hurled out for years now.
Yeah, what people miss on this board is the fact that for three years Georgia had the deck stacked in its favor to win the East and get a shot at the SEC CCG and beyond. And for three years the school from the East with the best recruiting class, whose rivals were all down, failed to win even one of those divisional titles. That more than anything else led to his dismissal. The total of dashed expectations these past three years therefore outweighed the body of his work at Georgia.
I understand this thinking. But recruiting is a huge part of college coaching and he's really good at that.
Richt has the 5th highest winning percentage of any SEC coach in the two decades, and all four ahead of him won national titles. Just because he's not Urban, Saban, or Miles does not mean he sucks. He's a very good coach.
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RE: Did Miami have a heads up on Richt's availability?
Good, but not good enough.
It's time for a change. He's had every opportunity and failed to capitalize time after time.
Georgia wants more, and solidly above average isn't the end of their ambition. That's fair enough.
(This post was last modified: 12-05-2015 03:15 PM by HeartOfDixie.)
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RE: Did Miami have a heads up on Richt's availability?
(12-05-2015 03:09 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: (12-05-2015 02:59 PM)JRsec Wrote: (12-05-2015 02:54 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: People have been expecting Richt to be hurled out for years now.
Yeah, what people miss on this board is the fact that for three years Georgia had the deck stacked in its favor to win the East and get a shot at the SEC CCG and beyond. And for three years the school from the East with the best recruiting class, whose rivals were all down, failed to win even one of those divisional titles. That more than anything else led to his dismissal. The total of dashed expectations these past three years therefore outweighed the body of his work at Georgia.
I understand this thinking. But recruiting is a huge part of college coaching and he's really good at that.
Richt has the 5th highest winning percentage of any SEC coach in the two decades, and all four ahead of him won national titles. Just because he's not Urban, Saban, or Miles does not mean he sucks. He's a very good coach.
You don't get to keep your job in the SEC if you don't recruit well. Smart recruits well too. That aspect is a net neutral. What you do with your recruits matters. Georgia clearly underachieved. Nobody said Richt was a bad coach. Richt just underachieved according the perceptions of the Georgia bmd's. Everyone liked the guy. That's why he stayed 15 years. Tubby did quite well at Auburn and many of us liked him. He had some terrific recruits. He had us in bowls, beat Alabama more than most of his predecessors going back to Ralph Shug Jordan, but he only came close a couple of times. In the end his constant tactic of hinting he would move without a raise (Sexton) and his always just finishing short, coupled with his loss of a 5 game lead in the Georgia series was too much. How's he working out for you guys?
My point is sometimes lethargy becomes the biggest reason to let somebody go, even if they are winning.
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RE: Did Miami have a heads up on Richt's availability?
(12-05-2015 02:54 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: People have been expecting Richt to be hurled out for years now.
Les Miles has taken his spot as the annual hot seat coach in the SEC.
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RE: Did Miami have a heads up on Richt's availability?
During his press conference, Richt said he was contacted by Miami shortly after Al Golden was let go. At the time, so he says, he said he's not interested in leaving Georgia. Fortunately for Miami, the media fueled the issues with UGA/Richt and they waited it out.
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Did Miami have a heads up on Richt's availability?
(12-05-2015 03:09 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: (12-05-2015 02:59 PM)JRsec Wrote: (12-05-2015 02:54 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: People have been expecting Richt to be hurled out for years now.
Yeah, what people miss on this board is the fact that for three years Georgia had the deck stacked in its favor to win the East and get a shot at the SEC CCG and beyond. And for three years the school from the East with the best recruiting class, whose rivals were all down, failed to win even one of those divisional titles. That more than anything else led to his dismissal. The total of dashed expectations these past three years therefore outweighed the body of his work at Georgia.
I understand this thinking. But recruiting is a huge part of college coaching and he's really good at that.
Richt has the 5th highest winning percentage of any SEC coach in the two decades, and all four ahead of him won national titles. Just because he's not Urban, Saban, or Miles does not mean he sucks. He's a very good coach.
UGA kinda recruits itself. Even Zook had talented teams. As JR said, the issue is that Mizzou won the SEC East twice. The Dawgs got beat by a Gators team QB'd by Treon Harris.
As plans for Richt's dismissal started after this years Cocktail Party, the administration at UGA probably did allow Richt to look around.
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RE: Did Miami have a heads up on Richt's availability?
By firing Golden early, Miami sent the message, "We are looking for a new coach." They were probably negotiating with Richt's agent for some time. When Richt was finally fired, the process could have been down to a quick interview and singing some paperwork. If Richt isn't fired (or doesn't quit), Miami moves on to #2 on their list and nobody knows the difference.
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