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What annoys me is old guard ACC fans trying to claim this years ACC is the best ever. First of all, that claim is baseless if you don't win the national championship, and that hasn't been decided yet. But beyond that, you had the '85 Big East which put three teams in the final four, from a nine team league. 33% of the league was in the Final Four and a fourth (BC) just missed getting in as well. Then you had the 2011 Big East that sent 11 teams to the tournament and also had the National Champion. The 2009 Big East also had 4 in the Elite 8, but they barely get a mention because they didn't deliver a National Championship.

The envy these old time ACC fans have is laughable. While they have had an excellent post season this year, there are several factors to consider before declaring them the "best ever". First only 7 of 15 teams went to the tournament, which is less than 50% of the league. Second, to this point the entire leagues best OOC wins have been against a 5 seed (Indiana) and a 4 seed (Iowa St.) Villanova by themselves has beaten a 3 (Miami from the ACC) and a 1 (Kansas). Syracuse did beat a 1 in Virginia, but that means a 1 lost to an 11, so the two cancel each other out. I realize you can't control who you play, and can only beat the teams in front of you, and the ACC has done that, and deserves credit for doing so. But if you want to claim the best ever title, you need some far more impressive scalps before that claim has any validity.

And finally, I'll say something that I'm sure plenty of Syracuse fans believe, but political correctness prevents them from saying. Syracuse is still essentially a Big East team. They needed to park their sports in the ACC for football stability, but that's not where they belong, or who they truly are. To me, while it won't be labeled as such, it is really two Big East teams in the Final Four. That's why I'll be rooting for Syracuse to beat UNC in the semis, but pulling for Nova to win it all in the championship game.
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Yeah, no year ever is going to match the Big East 1985. The ACC had a shot- but didn't convert this year at all.... I hear some ACC fanboys already claiming that ACC is the best ever. Sorry but no. Wake me up when you get even 9 teams in. Or you can match 3 teams in the final 4.

And their ignorance saying that coaching changes coming up aren't a worry or a concern is just so funny. Like there's going to be no drop off at all from Coach K, Williams, Pitino, or Boeheim.
03-30-2016 10:46 PM
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Louisville time in the BE was far too brief but it was an honor/thrill to have been a part of. The new BE seems to be in great shape. I wouldn't say that this years ACC is the greatest ever, even if NC wins the title, but it isn't a drastic difference. Nothing will ever match the BEAST though, the intensity or the brutality. The ACC is more finesse but with similar talent.
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(04-03-2016 09:54 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Louisville time in the BE was far too brief but it was an honor/thrill to have been a part of. The new BE seems to be in great shape. I wouldn't say that this years ACC is the greatest ever, even if NC wins the title, but it isn't a drastic difference. Nothing will ever match the BEAST though, the intensity or the brutality. The ACC is more finesse but with similar talent.

I agree , it was a lot of fun having Louisville in the BE, even if your stay was all too brief. Still, you guys certainly made your mark while you were here. I also always thought Louisville showed a lot of class in the way they handled their exit, unlike some others. Good luck going forward, I'm sure you have plenty of ACC championships in your future.
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the thing that's cool is this Nova team reminds me so much of some OBE teams from yesteryear.
04-03-2016 11:07 PM
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(03-30-2016 09:53 PM)hoops22 Wrote:  What annoys me is old guard ACC fans trying to claim this years ACC is the best ever. First of all, that claim is baseless if you don't win the national championship, and that hasn't been decided yet. But beyond that, you had the '85 Big East which put three teams in the final four, from a nine team league. 33% of the league was in the Final Four and a fourth (BC) just missed getting in as well. Then you had the 2011 Big East that sent 11 teams to the tournament and also had the National Champion. The 2009 Big East also had 4 in the Elite 8, but they barely get a mention because they didn't deliver a National Championship.

The envy these old time ACC fans have is laughable. While they have had an excellent post season this year, there are several factors to consider before declaring them the "best ever". First only 7 of 15 teams went to the tournament, which is less than 50% of the league. Second, to this point the entire leagues best OOC wins have been against a 5 seed (Indiana) and a 4 seed (Iowa St.) Villanova by themselves has beaten a 3 (Miami from the ACC) and a 1 (Kansas). Syracuse did beat a 1 in Virginia, but that means a 1 lost to an 11, so the two cancel each other out. I realize you can't control who you play, and can only beat the teams in front of you, and the ACC has done that, and deserves credit for doing so. But if you want to claim the best ever title, you need some far more impressive scalps before that claim has any validity.

And finally, I'll say something that I'm sure plenty of Syracuse fans believe, but political correctness prevents them from saying. Syracuse is still essentially a Big East team. They needed to park their sports in the ACC for football stability, but that's not where they belong, or who they truly are. To me, while it won't be labeled as such, it is really two Big East teams in the Final Four. That's why I'll be rooting for Syracuse to beat UNC in the semis, but pulling for Nova to win it all in the championship game.

As an old guard ACC guy, I don't really understand this whole conference argument. I care about Carolina. I never have and still don't care anything about the Big East and how it compares to the ACC. I care about Carolina beating Villanova.
04-04-2016 08:22 AM
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(04-04-2016 08:22 AM)samandrea Wrote:  
(03-30-2016 09:53 PM)hoops22 Wrote:  What annoys me is old guard ACC fans trying to claim this years ACC is the best ever. First of all, that claim is baseless if you don't win the national championship, and that hasn't been decided yet. But beyond that, you had the '85 Big East which put three teams in the final four, from a nine team league. 33% of the league was in the Final Four and a fourth (BC) just missed getting in as well. Then you had the 2011 Big East that sent 11 teams to the tournament and also had the National Champion. The 2009 Big East also had 4 in the Elite 8, but they barely get a mention because they didn't deliver a National Championship.

The envy these old time ACC fans have is laughable. While they have had an excellent post season this year, there are several factors to consider before declaring them the "best ever". First only 7 of 15 teams went to the tournament, which is less than 50% of the league. Second, to this point the entire leagues best OOC wins have been against a 5 seed (Indiana) and a 4 seed (Iowa St.) Villanova by themselves has beaten a 3 (Miami from the ACC) and a 1 (Kansas). Syracuse did beat a 1 in Virginia, but that means a 1 lost to an 11, so the two cancel each other out. I realize you can't control who you play, and can only beat the teams in front of you, and the ACC has done that, and deserves credit for doing so. But if you want to claim the best ever title, you need some far more impressive scalps before that claim has any validity.

And finally, I'll say something that I'm sure plenty of Syracuse fans believe, but political correctness prevents them from saying. Syracuse is still essentially a Big East team. They needed to park their sports in the ACC for football stability, but that's not where they belong, or who they truly are. To me, while it won't be labeled as such, it is really two Big East teams in the Final Four. That's why I'll be rooting for Syracuse to beat UNC in the semis, but pulling for Nova to win it all in the championship game.

As an old guard ACC guy, I don't really understand this whole conference argument. I care about Carolina. I never have and still don't care anything about the Big East and how it compares to the ACC. I care about Carolina beating Villanova.

As an old guard ACC guy, I wouldn't expect you to understand. Big East fans have always repped the conference. Any fan of a school that has been given a chance to play in the league and shine at the Garden will understand.
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IMO, the Old Big East was the best basketball league ever.
Now, thanks to conference realignment, you have the ACC and the New Big East - both very good (I'd give the slight nod to the ACC, but maybe that's just me?), but neither one as good as the Old Big East.

Here is my tribute: Saluting the Old Big East
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