(12-04-2015 09:42 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 11:19 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  So was it created in response to UA? Yes I can Google it but it's more fun in dialogue sometimes.

I don't think so.

It's a private school linked to a church.

It's a Presbyterian school.

It's located in my hometown. I honestly don't know a great deal of the history, but it was founded in the late 1800s along with a large number of colleges around the country dedicated to educating the black population.

They only brought back football about 15-20 years ago...I forget the date exactly. I've known a couple of guys to play over there.

I don't know why they don't just keep the big 3 around. They spent all that money on a football facility not too long ago so I don't see how it's going to help the school profile to drop it now.

Stillman is a small school...only about 2K students I think. They need to make more inroads into the community to raise funds. They've never been good at that.

(12-04-2015 03:26 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(12-04-2015 09:42 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 11:19 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  So was it created in response to UA? Yes I can Google it but it's more fun in dialogue sometimes.

I don't think so.

It's a private school linked to a church.

It's a Presbyterian school.

It's located in my hometown. I honestly don't know a great deal of the history, but it was founded in the late 1800s along with a large number of colleges around the country dedicated to educating the black population.

They only brought back football about 15-20 years ago...I forget the date exactly. I've known a couple of guys to play over there.

I don't know why they don't just keep the big 3 around. They spent all that money on a football facility not too long ago so I don't see how it's going to help the school profile to drop it now.

Stillman is a small school...only about 2K students I think. They need to make more inroads into the community to raise funds. They've never been good at that.

Well, it's in a crap part of town and most folks wouldn't even know it was there other than you pass by it on your way to Nick's.

(12-04-2015 03:26 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Stillman is a small school...only about 2K students I think. They need to make more inroads into the community to raise funds. They've never been good at that.

That last part doesn't sound good. Makes it seem like the NAIA thing is just a layover for USCAA, to save face before the **** really hits the fan institutionally.

For what might be, and likely is coming down the road for higher education (constriction), you wonder if there isn't some wiggle room for the offering limits to be more negotiable.

Most of the schools that shut down are private schools. Many HSBC schools have shut down. There were more than what there is now. Morris Brown is barely hanging on with less than 100 students. Read they were a former D1 school, but when they lost accreditation, they dropped sports trying to rebuild. But, they might be heading to closer soon. I don't think the Public ones would close down, but the privates might if they can't get students as big as Notre Dame.

Stillman is also in competition with Alabama and some other small HSBC schools in the same town. It would be in the best interest for the HSBC schools in the same town to merge and become bigger since they both are there for the same purposes.

(12-04-2015 04:31 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Most of the schools that shut down are private schools. Many HSBC schools have shut down. There were more than what there is now. Morris Brown is barely hanging on with less than 100 students. Read they were a former D1 school, but when they lost accreditation, they dropped sports trying to rebuild. But, they might be heading to closer soon. I don't think the Public ones would close down, but the privates might if they can't get students as big as Notre Dame.

Stillman is also in competition with Alabama and some other small HSBC schools in the same town. It would be in the best interest for the HSBC schools in the same town to merge and become bigger since they both are there for the same purposes.

I'm not aware of any other HBCU in Tuscaloosa.

(12-04-2015 05:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-04-2015 04:31 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Most of the schools that shut down are private schools. Many HSBC schools have shut down. There were more than what there is now. Morris Brown is barely hanging on with less than 100 students. Read they were a former D1 school, but when they lost accreditation, they dropped sports trying to rebuild. But, they might be heading to closer soon. I don't think the Public ones would close down, but the privates might if they can't get students as big as Notre Dame.

Stillman is also in competition with Alabama and some other small HSBC schools in the same town. It would be in the best interest for the HSBC schools in the same town to merge and become bigger since they both are there for the same purposes.

I'm not aware of any other HBCU in Tuscaloosa.

Shelton State is in Tuscaloosa. It is a community college and is listed as a HBCU.

(12-04-2015 05:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I'm not aware of any other HBCU in Tuscaloosa.

According to the Dept. of Ed College Navigator, Shelton State Community College is located in Tuscaloosa campus. They are a two-year college, about 5,000 students.

(12-04-2015 04:31 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Most of the schools that shut down are private schools. Many HSBC schools have shut down. There were more than what there is now. Morris Brown is barely hanging on with less than 100 students. Read they were a former D1 school, but when they lost accreditation, they dropped sports trying to rebuild. But, they might be heading to closer soon. I don't think the Public ones would close down, but the privates might if they can't get students as big as Notre Dame.

Stillman is also in competition with Alabama and some other small HSBC schools in the same town. It would be in the best interest for the HSBC schools in the same town to merge and become bigger since they both are there for the same purposes.

Outkast dedicated a song to them after they lost accreditation. They may as well close or even merge with a Spellman or Morehouse College.

The only HBCU's I see hanging on are the ones that are closely tied to their state (Prairie View) and highly successful privates like Hampton.

The rest could shut down/merge, though then again the race card looms and it'll be literal Hell trying to convince people that such a move would not be racist. But again, many should be merged if for no other reason than redundancy in state spending (such as in Tallahassee, Baton Rouge and near Shreveport).

(12-04-2015 07:22 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-04-2015 05:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-04-2015 04:31 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Most of the schools that shut down are private schools. Many HSBC schools have shut down. There were more than what there is now. Morris Brown is barely hanging on with less than 100 students. Read they were a former D1 school, but when they lost accreditation, they dropped sports trying to rebuild. But, they might be heading to closer soon. I don't think the Public ones would close down, but the privates might if they can't get students as big as Notre Dame.

Stillman is also in competition with Alabama and some other small HSBC schools in the same town. It would be in the best interest for the HSBC schools in the same town to merge and become bigger since they both are there for the same purposes.

I'm not aware of any other HBCU in Tuscaloosa.

Shelton State is in Tuscaloosa. It is a community college and is listed as a HBCU.

It isn't.

They absorbed a failed HBCU a long time ago but Shelton is in no way an HBCU. That's a joke.

Stillman only has about 900 students now. They've been recently plagued with corruption and mismanagement of funds. Stillman football was also poorly supported in the last few years. We've been to a couple of games where there were fewer than 500 people in attendance. Stillman was also losing students at an alarming rate. The school once have about 2000 students about 7 years ago in now barely above 900.

(12-03-2015 10:33 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  The point was making for the HBCUs was that they can band together to cut the spending down. Stillman in the SWAC could have helped them out. When you see Stillman going down? South Carolina State and others who are struggling could fall as well no matter what level that you are at.

I read Oklahoma City U. cut sports and went from D1 to NAIA, and they are interested in rejoining the D1 ranks and add football.

Stillman to the SWAC was never an option.

(12-03-2015 07:50 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://wiat.com/2015/12/03/stillman-coll...asketball/


HBCU school cuts all sports including football. Will go from NCAA D2 to NAIA.

I might see Tuskegee stepping up to join the SWAC if more schools in their conference doing this. I think Miles could be the next one to follow Stillman.

Miles is in a completely different boat than Stillman. Miles has grown tremendously and for the 4 consecutive year has welcomed a record breaking Freshmen class. Stillman and Miles's situations aren't remotely the same.

(12-04-2015 04:22 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(12-04-2015 03:26 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Stillman is a small school...only about 2K students I think. They need to make more inroads into the community to raise funds. They've never been good at that.

That last part doesn't sound good. Makes it seem like the NAIA thing is just a layover for USCAA, to save face before the **** really hits the fan institutionally.

For what might be, and likely is coming down the road for higher education (constriction), you wonder if there isn't some wiggle room for the offering limits to be more negotiable.

http://www.stillmanathletics.com/news/20.../naia.aspx

Update on transition. They will take advantage of the 4 year grace period to add sports. They use up to 4 years to decide which sports to add back.

I don't understand if they are going to do that why just decide which sports to cut to get to the 6 minimum...unless they really need to sort their athletic budget out.