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All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
Best hires so far are Va Tech, UCF, and Miami.
UGA is going thr unproven DC route while Miami upgrades.
USCe is struggling to hire someone. Missouri is likely to hire their DC.
Like I always say, hires almost always come to reality as a disappointment.
Maryland failed to do better than a DC.
No Nick Saban, no Harbaugh, no Chip Kelly type hires.
At the P5 level, VA Tech likely to come out the winner.
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MplsBison
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
Minnesota is unequivocally a winner, in their minds.
They surprised me, but they did correct.
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
Time after time it is proven to be very difficult to hire a good football coach.
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
(12-03-2015 08:36 AM)Nebraskafan Wrote: Best hires so far are Va Tech, UCF, and Miami.
UGA is going thr unproven DC route while Miami upgrades.
USCe is struggling to hire someone. Missouri is likely to hire their DC.
Like I always say, hires almost always come to reality as a disappointment.
Maryland failed to do better than a DC.
No Nick Saban, no Harbaugh, no Chip Kelly type hires.
At the P5 level, VA Tech likely to come out the winner.
At Rutgers, pretty much anyone with a pulse would be an upgrade, but we'll still blow it.
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
Someone at ESPN suggested that if Lane Kiffin leaves Bama, that might convince Saban to listen to the Colts..
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
A head coach doesn't teach techniques to players and he doesn't call the plays (usually).
It seems like he shouldn't really matter. Seems, being the key word
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
I find it funny that you think South Carolina is struggling to find someone. How about South Carolina is going through an interview process, and Georgia has basically hired Nick Saban 2.0 .
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
It is interesting that so many P5 schools have decided to hire in house by promoting their interim guy or assistant to full time coach. Not all schools are going to play that game every time of chasing the golden chosen one.
Maybe sometimes its better to choose to stay with what you got.
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
(12-03-2015 01:05 PM)MplsBison Wrote: A head coach doesn't teach techniques to players and he doesn't call the plays (usually).
It seems like he shouldn't really matter. Seems, being the key word
Actually in a lot of cases they do. As coaches get older, they tend to turn into CEO types and just structure practices, and set organization goals, but coaches newer on the job tend to be active on one side of the ball (their area of expertise), and often call the plays on that side.
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
(12-03-2015 12:41 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: Someone at ESPN suggested that if Lane Kiffin leaves Bama, that might convince Saban to listen to the Colts..
The NFL is a different animal
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
(12-03-2015 12:41 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: Someone at ESPN suggested that if Lane Kiffin leaves Bama, that might convince Saban to listen to the Colts..
Surely whoever said that meant it as a joke. Saban could replace him with somebody better in a heartbeat.
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MplsBison
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
(12-03-2015 02:05 PM)adcorbett Wrote: (12-03-2015 01:05 PM)MplsBison Wrote: A head coach doesn't teach techniques to players and he doesn't call the plays (usually).
It seems like he shouldn't really matter. Seems, being the key word
Actually in a lot of cases they do. As coaches get older, they tend to turn into CEO types and just structure practices, and set organization goals, but coaches newer on the job tend to be active on one side of the ball (their area of expertise), and often call the plays on that side.
I know that some head coaches call either the offensive or defensive plays.
But some don't.
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
It's far too early to declare any of the recent hires a win or a loss.
Just using Clemson as an example.
When they fired Danny Ford in 1990 and hired Ken Hatfield most of the pundits didn't think they would miss a beat because of Hatfield's success at Arkansas. Hatfield was an abject failure on and off the field.
When Clemson removed the interim tag from Dabo Swinney every pundit and message board "expert" thought it was going to be a disastrous hire. Now it looks like a stroke of genius.
For every Urban Meyer who has success at every level he coaches you have an equal Dan Hawkins or Dirk Koetter who couldn't make the transition for mid major to power school.
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
(12-03-2015 05:23 PM)Kaplony Wrote: It's far too early to declare any of the recent hires a win or a loss.
Just using Clemson as an example.
When they fired Danny Ford in 1990 and hired Ken Hatfield most of the pundits didn't think they would miss a beat because of Hatfield's success at Arkansas. Hatfield was an abject failure on and off the field.
When Clemson removed the interim tag from Dabo Swinney every pundit and message board "expert" thought it was going to be a disastrous hire. Now it looks like a stroke of genius.
For every Urban Meyer who has success at every level he coaches you have an equal Dan Hawkins or Dirk Koetter who couldn't make the transition for mid major to power school.
More like, there are at least 3 of Dan Hawkins for every Urban Meyer.
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
(12-03-2015 01:17 PM)hawghiggs Wrote: I find it funny that you think South Carolina is struggling to find someone. How about South Carolina is going through an interview process, and Georgia has basically hired Nick Saban 2.0 .
What exactly is impressive about the South Carolina search? They were the first job to open and already got turned down by a few coaches and continue to trend to hire a DC that got fired from Florida.
Most coaches that get fired as a head coach just aren't a good head coach. Not everyone that gets fired is going to go on a big run like the Seattle Head Coach or the Patriots Head Coach.
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
(12-03-2015 07:21 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote: (12-03-2015 01:17 PM)hawghiggs Wrote: I find it funny that you think South Carolina is struggling to find someone. How about South Carolina is going through an interview process, and Georgia has basically hired Nick Saban 2.0 .
What exactly is impressive about the South Carolina search? They were the first job to open and already got turned down by a few coaches and continue to trend to hire a DC that got fired from Florida.
Most coaches that get fired as a head coach just aren't a good head coach. Not everyone that gets fired is going to go on a big run like the Seattle Head Coach or the Patriots Head Coach.
The only people that have mentioned that they got turned down were the talking heads at ESPN. South Carolina is doing an actual coaching search. Which I really hope ends up being Rich Rodriguez.
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
Muschamp is a real coaching search? ok.
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
(12-03-2015 11:04 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote: Muschamp is a real coaching search? ok.
Lot of coaches have a solid resume and contacts. Just ask Mike Riley.
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RE: All these jobs resulted in 3 big moves
Muschamp being the lead candidate just shows that SEC schools only know like 5 names. Surprised Chizik isn't a candidate, at least he did win something before getting canned.
(This post was last modified: 12-04-2015 12:48 AM by pirates4lyfe.)
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