Most importantly, they play in the SEC West, where everyone is a bowl team and notched a good record/quality win. Alabama may literally be the only team that could have survived that schedule with 1 loss of fewer.

(12-04-2015 01:21 PM)stever20 Wrote:  WRONG.....
You don't think Alabama would have jumped in the human polls w/o the CFP when they beat what was then #4 LSU? In a weekend where #5 TCU and #6 Michigan St lost. While Iowa was #10? Sorry but that is a load of crap and you know it.

Iowa's problem is there are so many teams between them and Alabama in the computers.

So did you just say that my opinion was wrong, and then replace it with your own opinion, as proof? Or what I described in their voting trajectory was wrong this year based on how they made an awkward jump based on the CFP poll, just like teams did last year (note, it is not, it happened just as I described it)? Either way, nothing you said changes what I said. You can hypothesize, but again you have problem of passing off your own opinion as fact.

And you also have an issue with changing your criteria, since last year you kept speaking of the best loss, and most top teams being most important, since you know that met the criteria Alabama had. For example when last year FSU and Ohio St had played the most bowl teams, you made it a point that it didn't matter, while you were chalking up how and why Alabama should be number one, and why they would beat Ohio State by three TD's. Then this year you use the bad loss to eliminate any chance of UNC should they win, until it is pointed out that it removes another team you spoke of (Oklahoma), then you changed it to SOS, but only "your" definition of SOS, and sais the bad loss wasn't the biggest issue.

Wonder why you have 6 or 7 people arguing with you? That is why. Then you go and curse, and yell, and stomp when people disagree.

(12-04-2015 03:07 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Most importantly, they play in the SEC West, where everyone is a bowl team and notched a good record/quality win. Alabama may literally be the only team that could have survived that schedule with 1 loss of fewer.

The SEC West this year, is full of a lot of teams where ranked at some point, but are not "really good" teams. They only beat one Ranked team in their division, and two overall. It is certainly a formidable schedule, but not one that gives them a one game lead over the pack (I.e. would trump an undefeated team). Alabama is actually living off of what people complained about the Big 12 this year, where they piled up "ranked" wins because their schedules are all backloaded. When your best win is versus the number 21 team, you can't really go running on the SOS card. Oh and note, in the human polls, Alabama only has one top 25 SEC win as LSU is ranked 23rs in both, and Tennessee is unranked (they do pick up number 25 Wisc in their place).

Wins over several good, but not elite teams, but no elite wins, has historically never gotten a team a higher ranking than one with less losses, other than right after a loss.

Sorry but South Carolina is a much worse loss than Texas.

But even moreso after that, why UNC is screwed. They have the 2 FCS games. That at least as much as the bad loss to South Carolina is why they have no shot at the playoff. If you have a bad loss, you better be pretty much flawless in every other aspect. UNC isn't.... Not by a mile.

Also you are flat out making up **** about the bowl teams for last year. Alabama played 10 bowl teams in regular season. Ohio St played 9, and FSU played 8. You might want to know your **** before you put it out here.

(12-04-2015 05:24 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(12-04-2015 03:07 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Most importantly, they play in the SEC West, where everyone is a bowl team and notched a good record/quality win. Alabama may literally be the only team that could have survived that schedule with 1 loss of fewer.

The SEC West this year, is full of a lot of teams where ranked at some point, but are not "really good" teams. They only beat one Ranked team in their division, and two overall. It is certainly a formidable schedule, but not one that gives them a one game lead over the pack (I.e. would trump an undefeated team). Alabama is actually living off of what people complained about the Big 12 this year, where they piled up "ranked" wins because their schedules are all backloaded. When your best win is versus the number 21 team, you can't really go running on the SOS card. Oh and note, in the human polls, Alabama only has one top 25 SEC win as LSU is ranked 23rs in both, and Tennessee is unranked (they do pick up number 25 Wisc in their place).

Wins over several good, but not elite teams, but no elite wins, has historically never gotten a team a higher ranking than one with less losses, other than right after a loss.

The problem is Iowa's schedule isn't all that special. 5 natural bowl opponents. It's easy to see why they would be really bad in the computers. 3 games with opponents with 3 wins or fewer.
Iowa's opponents vs FBS 50-64
Alabama's opponents vs FBS 70-41

a 20 game difference in SOS is HUGE. That is what SOS is my friend, NOT who your best win is.

Anyone who thinks Iowa could pass Bama in the BCS if Bama wins the SEC is not playing with a full deck.

On the SEC West, of course they don't have great records, they all beat each other up. The teams that did suffer OOC losses lost to some very good teams (even Memphis, who scalped Ole Miss, lost to the AAC champion) Toledo faded some but still won 9 games and looks to demolished the MAC champion. It may be a little overhyped but every single team proved they were capable of beating each other, including posing a threat to Alabama.

To add to that, the reason they're not all ranked is because they beat up on each other. If some teams, like perhaps Houston or UNC for example, had to go through that grind weekly, they may not be able to hold up.

And I'm also the one that started the thread on the SEC's myth being exposed, however it's still a tough and physical league.