Clemson #1
FSU #9
North Carolina #10

BTW, Ohio State is #6

Stanford is probably next man in over OSU. Things get interesting if 1 and 2 go down, but Florida would need a week to score on Alabama.

If Stanford destroys USC they could be in pending a Bama loss.

The reasons that Jeff Long provided about UNC this evening (SOS, 2 FCS Opponents, bad loss to a bad SEC team) are the same reasons UNC won't get in over Ohio State if Stanford loses. I don't think even an ACC title can overcome all of that...

Especially since the prospect of an Alabama/Ohio State rematch would present itself. That's too good a TV ratings bonanza to pass up, and if it comes to that, the "committee" will likely use either the bad loss to SCAR or the 2 FCS opponents to keep the Heels out.

I agree. Placing the Heels at #10 this week likely answered any question about their playoff chances unless they absolutely steamroll Clemson.

(12-01-2015 08:51 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  I agree. Placing the Heels at #10 this week likely answered any question about their playoff chances unless they absolutely steamroll Clemson.

Yeah, UNC would have to roll Clemson something like 30-0, 45-7, or worse to get the attention of the TV folks who would likely be lobbying the "Committee" for that dream Alabama/Ohio State rematch -- and even then, I'm not sure it would be enough.

(12-01-2015 09:01 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 08:51 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  I agree. Placing the Heels at #10 this week likely answered any question about their playoff chances unless they absolutely steamroll Clemson.

Yeah, UNC would have to roll Clemson something like 30-0, 45-7, or worse to get the attention of the TV folks who would likely be lobbying the "Committee" for that dream Alabama/Ohio State rematch -- and even then, I'm not sure it would be enough.

Bad year to play 2 FCS teams. Bad year to lose to S Carolina.

I think we just need Stanford to lose. If we beat Clemson, we jump FSU, ND, Ohio State, and the MSU/Iowa loser and end up at #4.

UNC football this year is like a beautiful woman with a big ugly wart on her nose... as much as you want to admire her beauty you just can't stop looking at that wart.

UNC's wart is S Carolina (the FCS games are nose hairs, I guess).

We are the committee's worst nightmare this year.

(12-02-2015 08:45 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think we just need Stanford to lose. If we beat Clemson, we jump FSU, ND, Ohio State, and the MSU/Iowa loser and end up at #4.

I don't see how you can jump tOSU. There's too much money in a Bama/tOSU rematch. And if Iowa loses, I don't see you jumping them either.

So for the ACC to get even 1 team in the CFP we need Clemson to win.

(12-02-2015 10:11 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 08:45 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think we just need Stanford to lose. If we beat Clemson, we jump FSU, ND, Ohio State, and the MSU/Iowa loser and end up at #4.

I don't see how you can jump tOSU. There's too much money in a Bama/tOSU rematch. And if Iowa loses, I don't see you jumping them either.

So for the ACC to get even 1 team in the CFP we need Clemson to win.

Iowa would have no big wins. UNC would have the biggest win over Clemson. UNC would be a conference champ, Iowa would not. SOS are already fairly similar.

Similar issue with OSU. Ohio State's best win would be Michigan. UNC's best win would be Clemson. UNC would be a conference champ. OSU would not. In addition, you'd have a hard time putting Ohio State ahead of even Clemson with a loss.

(12-02-2015 10:20 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 10:11 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 08:45 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think we just need Stanford to lose. If we beat Clemson, we jump FSU, ND, Ohio State, and the MSU/Iowa loser and end up at #4.

I don't see how you can jump tOSU. There's too much money in a Bama/tOSU rematch. And if Iowa loses, I don't see you jumping them either.

So for the ACC to get even 1 team in the CFP we need Clemson to win.

Iowa would have no big wins. UNC would have the biggest win over Clemson. UNC would be a conference champ, Iowa would not. SOS are already fairly similar.

Similar issue with OSU. Ohio State's best win would be Michigan. UNC's best win would be Clemson. UNC would be a conference champ. OSU would not. In addition, you'd have a hard time putting Ohio State ahead of even Clemson with a loss.

I do think UNC has a better record but last year it was in question whether an FSU team that was undefeated, defending champs with the previous Heisman trophy winner would get in. The committee is not going to be friendly to the ACC no matter what records and statistics say.

Ideally UNC and Clemson would both get into the playoffs but I don't see that happening with a 1 loss tOSU sitting there.

(12-02-2015 10:30 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 10:20 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 10:11 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 08:45 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think we just need Stanford to lose. If we beat Clemson, we jump FSU, ND, Ohio State, and the MSU/Iowa loser and end up at #4.

I don't see how you can jump tOSU. There's too much money in a Bama/tOSU rematch. And if Iowa loses, I don't see you jumping them either.

So for the ACC to get even 1 team in the CFP we need Clemson to win.

Iowa would have no big wins. UNC would have the biggest win over Clemson. UNC would be a conference champ, Iowa would not. SOS are already fairly similar.

Similar issue with OSU. Ohio State's best win would be Michigan. UNC's best win would be Clemson. UNC would be a conference champ. OSU would not. In addition, you'd have a hard time putting Ohio State ahead of even Clemson with a loss.

I do think UNC has a better record but last year it was in question whether an FSU team that was undefeated, defending champs with the previous Heisman trophy winner would get in. The committee is not going to be friendly to the ACC no matter what records and statistics say.

Ideally UNC and Clemson would both get into the playoffs but I don't see that happening with a 1 loss tOSU sitting there.

I just want to see how the committee will justify putting OSU in over Clemson. All of their previous reasons for ranking teams will favor the Tigers.

The CFP Committee will be biased in favor of the Big Ten and SEC because those are some of the biggest schools in the country. Their treatment of Ohio State relative to UNC betrays this already.

(12-02-2015 08:45 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think we just need Stanford to lose. If we beat Clemson, we jump FSU, ND, Ohio State, and the MSU/Iowa loser and end up at #4.

Dude, North Carolina is not jumping Ohio State under any circumstances. None. This is not a discussion on whether UNC is (on the field) better than Ohio State.

This IS a business discussion on the fact that the TV people in the room (with the committee) will be salivating over an Alabama vs. Ohio State semifinal rematch.

When it gets to that point, the Committee will take the easy way out (that North Carolina has already provided) -- Jeff Long alluded to it last night:

2 FCS Games
1 Bad loss to an ugly SEC team
(and, if you watched the overnight SportsCenter this morning, they had the first of many UNC/Ohio State comparison charts -- I told you that was coming)

And since Jeff Long alluded to it last night, it will be alluded to again if the Committee has to compare the two schools.

Here's the other factor that goes totally against North Carolina:

ESPN is paying thousands of dollars to get/convince us to watch those semifinal games on New Years Eve, and again, Alabama vs. Ohio State is a cow cash that will ensure the highest viewership possible.

That's why Ohio State is #6

Stanford, if it wins has just enough recent "street cred" that they would past Ohio State, and even then, I wouldn't put it past the Committee to cite Stanford's 2 losses as a reason to take Ohio State over them.

Again, this is why Ohio State is #6

Look -- I won't put it past someone from the 'committee' to slip the PAC-12 refs a l'il something to make sure USC wins if the game is close in the 4th quarter...

Woody Durham's boy, Wes, said it best on a recent interview on 99.9 the FAN when talking about the playoff:

"This is still a business."

Alabama vs Ohio State, if they can get it, is good for business.

(12-02-2015 11:18 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  The CFP Committee will be biased in favor of the Big Ten and SEC because those are some of the biggest schools in the country. Their treatment of Ohio State relative to UNC betrays this already.

lmao, I can't even deal with this bias. It's so stupid.

IMO UNC had to have one of the following things to be serious playoff contender this year(1) no losses(2) a big name coach(3) a Heisman contender. Any of these would have kept the Heels in front of the ESPN hype machine enough to possibly get them in with a win on Saturday . Best case you play in a NY6 bowl & worst case you play in the Russell Athletic against either TCU,Baylor or Okla. State. I can live with that

(12-02-2015 12:23 PM)mj4life Wrote:  IMO UNC had to have one of the following things to be serious playoff contender this year(1) no losses(2) a big name coach(3) a Heisman contender. Any of these would have kept the Heels in front of the ESPN hype machine enough to possibly get them in with a win on Saturday . Best case you play in a NY6 bowl & worst case you play in the Russell Athletic against either TCU,Baylor or Okla. State. I can live with that

+1

(12-02-2015 11:53 AM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 08:45 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think we just need Stanford to lose. If we beat Clemson, we jump FSU, ND, Ohio State, and the MSU/Iowa loser and end up at #4.

Dude, North Carolina is not jumping Ohio State under any circumstances. None. This is not a discussion on whether UNC is (on the field) better than Ohio State.

This IS a business discussion on the fact that the TV people in the room (with the committee) will be salivating over an Alabama vs. Ohio State semifinal rematch.

When it gets to that point, the Committee will take the easy way out (that North Carolina has already provided) -- Jeff Long alluded to it last night:

2 FCS Games
1 Bad loss to an ugly SEC team
(and, if you watched the overnight SportsCenter this morning, they had the first of many UNC/Ohio State comparison charts -- I told you that was coming)

And since Jeff Long alluded to it last night, it will be alluded to again if the Committee has to compare the two schools.

Here's the other factor that goes totally against North Carolina:

ESPN is paying thousands of dollars to get/convince us to watch those semifinal games on New Years Eve, and again, Alabama vs. Ohio State is a cow cash that will ensure the highest viewership possible.

That's why Ohio State is #6

Stanford, if it wins has just enough recent "street cred" that they would past Ohio State, and even then, I wouldn't put it past the Committee to cite Stanford's 2 losses as a reason to take Ohio State over them.

Again, this is why Ohio State is #6

Look -- I won't put it past someone from the 'committee' to slip the PAC-12 refs a l'il something to make sure USC wins if the game is close in the 4th quarter...

Woody Durham's boy, Wes, said it best on a recent interview on 99.9 the FAN when talking about the playoff:

"This is still a business."

Alabama vs Ohio State, if they can get it, is good for business.

2 B1G teams won't get in. If Ohio St gets then they will announce that the system is a sham. Stanford is next in line, to bring in the west coast.