Nancy was on field at the Tulsa game to be honored as part of a group that has donated over a million dollars to the university. She didn't get a close up on the video board, so no one noticed...

You are correct. Same thing happned at Ohio State.

(12-01-2015 01:37 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 12:34 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Aside from the Huggins debacle, Zimpher did improve UC academics.

I don't expect to see her back but with Nippert completed and the Shoe in the pipeline, there's not much she could do to destroy UC athletics, IMHO.

I always thought the decisions relative to increasing admission criteria, dumping University College and pushing marginal applicants to UC Blue Ash, UC Clermont and Cincy State was done by Ohio Board of Regents?

Happened at other State U's I believe.

(12-01-2015 04:48 PM)eastside cat Wrote:  You are correct. Same thing happned at Ohio State.

(12-01-2015 01:37 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 12:34 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Aside from the Huggins debacle, Zimpher did improve UC academics.

I don't expect to see her back but with Nippert completed and the Shoe in the pipeline, there's not much she could do to destroy UC athletics, IMHO.

I always thought the decisions relative to increasing admission criteria, dumping University College and pushing marginal applicants to UC Blue Ash, UC Clermont and Cincy State was done by Ohio Board of Regents?

Happened at other State U's I believe.

That is not correct. Zimpher was ahead of the curve shifting away from University College and implementing increased admissions criteria into the Uptown Campus baccalaureate programs. All happened before OBR changed the subsidy model so that 4 year universities no longer received subsidy for non-college level classes. Like her or not, her decisions but us in a very good position to restructure when OBR made that decision.

To be fair, she did largely copy what Ohio State did because OSU made this move a few years before UC did.

(12-01-2015 01:34 PM)QSECOFR Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 12:34 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Aside from the Huggins debacle, Zimpher did improve UC academics.

I don't expect to see her back but with Nippert completed and the Shoe in the pipeline, there's not much she could do to destroy UC athletics, IMHO.

She also increased the cost of education at UC and was rebuked by the Board of Regents for doing so.

How did she do that?

She closed UC Evening College as a way of increasing the graduation rate. By doing that, she got her bonus. The downside is that UC was then putting fewer students (and less revenue) through the same fixed costs.

Thanks, Nancy!

In 2003, UC's enrollment was 33,823. In 2009, UC's enrollment was 39,667. During Zimpher's tenure, UC's enrollment grew by 5,844, or 17%. It appears that in no year during Zimpher's tenure did UC's enrollment decline.

It's also funny that you noted increasing the graduation rate in the same argument against Zimpher. Increasing the graduation rate increases enrollment. If she got a bonus for increasing the graduation rate, it seems to me she did exactly what the BOT hired her to do. I don't understand how you can fault her for that.

I would also argue that enhanced admission standards makes UC more attractive to capable students who otherwise would not have considered the school.

I think this specific argument you have against Zimpher is unfounded.

2010 – 41,357
2009 – 39,667
2008 – 37,072
2007 – 36,518
2006 – 35,527
2005 – 35,244
2004 – 34,364
2003 – 33,823
2002 – 32,975
2001 – 33,085
2000 – 33,180
1999 – 33,342
1998 – 33,747
1997 – 34,024
1996 – 34,951
1995 – 34,086
1994 – 34,526
1993 – 34,532
1992 – 34,660
1991 – 36,944
1990 – 37,415
1989 – 36,846
1988 – 36,408
1987 – 36,194
1986 – 35,322
1985 – 34,666
1984 – 35,249
1983 – 36,533
1982 – 37,906
1981 – 38,895
1980 – 39,772
1979 – 39,071
1978 – 37,736
1977 – 38,239

http://www.uc.edu/news/NR.aspx?id=14195

Also worth noting that university college students generally had little impact on UC's graduation rate and evening college students had essentially zero impact. The number of new freshmen entering either university college or evening college that were considered part of the first-time full-time baccalaureate cohort was very small. The lost evening college students were replaced (and then some) with distance learning students.

If you look at UC's revenue during this time frame I think you'll see that revenue was growing throughout Zimpher's, (and Williams' and Ono's) tenure. Costs also were growing, of course.

Zimpher is awesome. She makes my boat on the river rise, increased the value of my degree (cough), makes sales calls
for me, negotiates my RFPs, cleans my windows, and increased sales of fish net stockings in the tranny community.

(12-01-2015 05:54 PM)qsilvr2531 Wrote:  Also worth noting that university college students generally had little impact on UC's graduation rate and evening college students had essentially zero impact. The number of new freshmen entering either university college or evening college that were considered part of the first-time full-time baccalaureate cohort was very small. The lost evening college students were replaced (and then some) with distance learning students.

If you look at UC's revenue during this time frame I think you'll see that revenue was growing throughout Zimpher's, (and Williams' and Ono's) tenure. Costs also were growing, of course.

Zimpher was saddled with a ton of debt resulting from the massive building campaign. Most of it was underway by the time she arrived and she even had to put a stop to the Calhoun development. I can't remember the details but UC's financial officer put UC on the hook in a manner that was not financially responsible.

(12-01-2015 05:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Zimpher is awesome. She makes my boat on the river rise, increased the value of my degree (cough), makes sales calls
for me, negotiates my RFPs, cleans my windows, and increased sales of fish net stockings in the tranny community.

She wasn't likable, but I respect her for doing her job and putting up with a lot of ****.

After Zimpher left UC, the audit she ordered at Binghamton resulted in their president resigning, the AD getting fired, and the basketball coach ultimately losing his job.

You don't have to like her, but we were lucky to have her. She got things done.

(12-01-2015 06:03 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 05:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Zimpher is awesome. She makes my boat on the river rise, increased the value of my degree (cough), makes sales calls
for me, negotiates my RFPs, cleans my windows, and increased sales of fish net stockings in the tranny community.

She wasn't likable, but I respect her for doing her job and putting up with a lot of ****.

After Zimpher left UC, the audit she ordered at Binghamton resulted in their president resigning, the AD getting fired, and the basketball coach ultimately losing his job.

You don't have to like her, but we were lucky to have her. She got things done.

I was not lucky to have her. She did nothing of value for me in any manner whatsoever. Same for Ono. I make my own breaks in life.

(12-01-2015 05:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Zimpher is awesome. She makes my boat on the river rise, increased the value of my degree (cough), makes sales calls
for me, negotiates my RFPs, cleans my windows, and increased sales of fish net stockings in the tranny community.

Ah, those fish nets. We were at a cocktail party with her and having had 2 drinks I asked her "What is with the fish nets?"

She said "Since I cannot be seen wearing the same outfit too often they allow me to Change my look for $10".

Having had 2 drinks I responded "That is fine but be careful of what neighborhood you wear them in:.

She sort of laughed.

My wife latter told be "Really, she was wearing a St. Johns knit that sells for around a $1,000".

(12-01-2015 06:31 PM)dossbig Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 05:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Zimpher is awesome. She makes my boat on the river rise, increased the value of my degree (cough), makes sales calls
for me, negotiates my RFPs, cleans my windows, and increased sales of fish net stockings in the tranny community.

Ah, those fish nets. We were at a cocktail party with her and having had 2 drinks I asked her "What is with the fish nets?"

She said "Since I cannot be seen wearing the same outfit too often they allow me to Change my look for $10".

Having had 2 drinks I responded "That is fine but be careful of what neighborhood you wear them in:.

She sort of laughed.

My wife latter told be "Really, she was wearing a St. Johns knit that sells for around a $1,000".

(12-01-2015 11:24 AM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/ne...ght-a.html

Nancy Zimpher, the former president of the University of Cincinnati, recently purchased a high-end condominium in Cincinnati.
Zimpher, who became chancellor of the State University of New York in 2009, purchased a condo at St. James at the Park in Eden Park at the end of September for $775,000. Zimpher purchased the condo from Peter Levin, according to Hamilton County property records.

A spokeswoman for SUNY said Zimpher has no plans to leave New York anytime soon.
“She did happen to find a property she likes in Ohio recently and purchased it as part of a long-term plan to be near her family and grandchildren,” the spokeswoman wrote in an email.

St. James at the Park was built in 1989. The condo building has units ranging from $325,000 to $2.2 million. Amenities include an outdoor pool, tennis courts, spa, exercise room and guest suites.
Zimpher, who was born and raised in Ohio, served as president of UC from fall 2003 to May 2009. She was the university’s first woman president.
“Zimpher will always consider the Buckeye State to be home,” the spokeswoman said.

if UC ever brings her back, remind me to hire an Exorcist to rid the city of that pathetic nancy pelosi wanna be Witch.

(12-01-2015 08:59 PM)bearcat54 Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 11:24 AM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/ne...ght-a.html

Nancy Zimpher, the former president of the University of Cincinnati, recently purchased a high-end condominium in Cincinnati.
Zimpher, who became chancellor of the State University of New York in 2009, purchased a condo at St. James at the Park in Eden Park at the end of September for $775,000. Zimpher purchased the condo from Peter Levin, according to Hamilton County property records.

A spokeswoman for SUNY said Zimpher has no plans to leave New York anytime soon.
“She did happen to find a property she likes in Ohio recently and purchased it as part of a long-term plan to be near her family and grandchildren,” the spokeswoman wrote in an email.

St. James at the Park was built in 1989. The condo building has units ranging from $325,000 to $2.2 million. Amenities include an outdoor pool, tennis courts, spa, exercise room and guest suites.
Zimpher, who was born and raised in Ohio, served as president of UC from fall 2003 to May 2009. She was the university’s first woman president.
“Zimpher will always consider the Buckeye State to be home,” the spokeswoman said.

if UC ever brings her back, remind me to hire an Exorcist to rid the city of that pathetic nancy pelosi wanna be Witch.

I love Nancy Zimpher threads. They always bring out the winners.

Not a fan of Zimpher but I must correct misinformation in this thread…

Zimpher was not responsible for the closures of Evening College and University College. The two colleges were closed at the end of Steger's tenure (closures taking place between 2002-03) and the programs and employees absorbed by other colleges.

(12-01-2015 06:14 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 06:03 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 05:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Zimpher is awesome. She makes my boat on the river rise, increased the value of my degree (cough), makes sales calls
for me, negotiates my RFPs, cleans my windows, and increased sales of fish net stockings in the tranny community.

She wasn't likable, but I respect her for doing her job and putting up with a lot of ****.

After Zimpher left UC, the audit she ordered at Binghamton resulted in their president resigning, the AD getting fired, and the basketball coach ultimately losing his job.

You don't have to like her, but we were lucky to have her. She got things done.

I was not lucky to have her. She did nothing of value for me in any manner whatsoever. Same for Ono. I make my own breaks in life.

Um...ok.

(12-01-2015 10:32 PM)geef Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 08:59 PM)bearcat54 Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 11:24 AM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/ne...ght-a.html

Nancy Zimpher, the former president of the University of Cincinnati, recently purchased a high-end condominium in Cincinnati.
Zimpher, who became chancellor of the State University of New York in 2009, purchased a condo at St. James at the Park in Eden Park at the end of September for $775,000. Zimpher purchased the condo from Peter Levin, according to Hamilton County property records.

A spokeswoman for SUNY said Zimpher has no plans to leave New York anytime soon.
“She did happen to find a property she likes in Ohio recently and purchased it as part of a long-term plan to be near her family and grandchildren,” the spokeswoman wrote in an email.

St. James at the Park was built in 1989. The condo building has units ranging from $325,000 to $2.2 million. Amenities include an outdoor pool, tennis courts, spa, exercise room and guest suites.
Zimpher, who was born and raised in Ohio, served as president of UC from fall 2003 to May 2009. She was the university’s first woman president.
“Zimpher will always consider the Buckeye State to be home,” the spokeswoman said.

if UC ever brings her back, remind me to hire an Exorcist to rid the city of that pathetic nancy pelosi wanna be Witch.

I love Nancy Zimpher threads. They always bring out the winners.

You think this is bad, you shoulda been here after Huggins was booted. Some jaw dropping stuff posted on here. It really brought out the worst in people.

(12-01-2015 05:45 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 01:34 PM)QSECOFR Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 12:34 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Aside from the Huggins debacle, Zimpher did improve UC academics.

I don't expect to see her back but with Nippert completed and the Shoe in the pipeline, there's not much she could do to destroy UC athletics, IMHO.

She also increased the cost of education at UC and was rebuked by the Board of Regents for doing so.

How did she do that?

She closed UC Evening College as a way of increasing the graduation rate. By doing that, she got her bonus. The downside is that UC was then putting fewer students (and less revenue) through the same fixed costs.

Thanks, Nancy!

In 2003, UC's enrollment was 33,823. In 2009, UC's enrollment was 39,667. During Zimpher's tenure, UC's enrollment grew by 5,844, or 17%. It appears that in no year during Zimpher's tenure did UC's enrollment decline.

It's also funny that you noted increasing the graduation rate in the same argument against Zimpher. Increasing the graduation rate increases enrollment. If she got a bonus for increasing the graduation rate, it seems to me she did exactly what the BOT hired her to do. I don't understand how you can fault her for that.

I would also argue that enhanced admission standards makes UC more attractive to capable students who otherwise would not have considered the school.

I think this specific argument you have against Zimpher is unfounded.

2010 – 41,357
2009 – 39,667
2008 – 37,072
2007 – 36,518
2006 – 35,527
2005 – 35,244
2004 – 34,364
2003 – 33,823
2002 – 32,975
2001 – 33,085
2000 – 33,180
1999 – 33,342
1998 – 33,747
1997 – 34,024
1996 – 34,951
1995 – 34,086
1994 – 34,526
1993 – 34,532
1992 – 34,660
1991 – 36,944
1990 – 37,415
1989 – 36,846
1988 – 36,408
1987 – 36,194
1986 – 35,322
1985 – 34,666
1984 – 35,249
1983 – 36,533
1982 – 37,906
1981 – 38,895
1980 – 39,772
1979 – 39,071
1978 – 37,736
1977 – 38,239

http://www.uc.edu/news/NR.aspx?id=14195

Enrollment at all universities increases during a recession. Showing UC's enrollment w/o comparing it to other similarly situated schools is just flat data from which one cannot draw any conclusions.

You may want to look into taking a stats course at UC Evening College.....

Oops....

(12-01-2015 10:42 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 06:14 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 06:03 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 05:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Zimpher is awesome. She makes my boat on the river rise, increased the value of my degree (cough), makes sales calls
for me, negotiates my RFPs, cleans my windows, and increased sales of fish net stockings in the tranny community.

She wasn't likable, but I respect her for doing her job and putting up with a lot of ****.

After Zimpher left UC, the audit she ordered at Binghamton resulted in their president resigning, the AD getting fired, and the basketball coach ultimately losing his job.

You don't have to like her, but we were lucky to have her. She got things done.

I was not lucky to have her. She did nothing of value for me in any manner whatsoever. Same for Ono. I make my own breaks in life.

Um...ok.

You think a Univ president makes your life better?

(12-02-2015 08:20 AM)QSECOFR Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 05:45 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 01:34 PM)QSECOFR Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 12:34 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Aside from the Huggins debacle, Zimpher did improve UC academics.

I don't expect to see her back but with Nippert completed and the Shoe in the pipeline, there's not much she could do to destroy UC athletics, IMHO.

She also increased the cost of education at UC and was rebuked by the Board of Regents for doing so.

How did she do that?

She closed UC Evening College as a way of increasing the graduation rate. By doing that, she got her bonus. The downside is that UC was then putting fewer students (and less revenue) through the same fixed costs.

Thanks, Nancy!

In 2003, UC's enrollment was 33,823. In 2009, UC's enrollment was 39,667. During Zimpher's tenure, UC's enrollment grew by 5,844, or 17%. It appears that in no year during Zimpher's tenure did UC's enrollment decline.

It's also funny that you noted increasing the graduation rate in the same argument against Zimpher. Increasing the graduation rate increases enrollment. If she got a bonus for increasing the graduation rate, it seems to me she did exactly what the BOT hired her to do. I don't understand how you can fault her for that.

I would also argue that enhanced admission standards makes UC more attractive to capable students who otherwise would not have considered the school.

I think this specific argument you have against Zimpher is unfounded.

2010 – 41,357
2009 – 39,667
2008 – 37,072
2007 – 36,518
2006 – 35,527
2005 – 35,244
2004 – 34,364
2003 – 33,823
2002 – 32,975
2001 – 33,085
2000 – 33,180
1999 – 33,342
1998 – 33,747
1997 – 34,024
1996 – 34,951
1995 – 34,086
1994 – 34,526
1993 – 34,532
1992 – 34,660
1991 – 36,944
1990 – 37,415
1989 – 36,846
1988 – 36,408
1987 – 36,194
1986 – 35,322
1985 – 34,666
1984 – 35,249
1983 – 36,533
1982 – 37,906
1981 – 38,895
1980 – 39,772
1979 – 39,071
1978 – 37,736
1977 – 38,239

http://www.uc.edu/news/NR.aspx?id=14195

Enrollment at all universities increases during a recession. Showing UC's enrollment w/o comparing it to other similarly situated schools is just flat data from which one cannot draw any conclusions.

You may want to look into taking a stats course at UC Evening College.....

Oops....

You stated the following:

"The downside is that UC was then putting fewer students (and less revenue) through the same fixed costs."

This statement is incorrect. Stop clinging to wrong and angry notions of the past that give you comfort. It must be exhausting.

Also, the Great Recession did not officially start until very late 2007 and the unemployment rate didn't start to appreciably rise until April or May of 2008. I'm pretty sure it was the fall of 2007 when the first private mortgage firm - the name escapes me - took a dive. Enrollment at UC was increasing while the economy was booming with the real estate bubble.

Besides, if mptnstr@44 is correct, the closures of University College and the Evening College occurred before Zimpher ever arrived on campus - so your argument is shot down on just about every front possible..

(12-02-2015 08:42 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 10:42 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 06:14 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 06:03 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 05:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Zimpher is awesome. She makes my boat on the river rise, increased the value of my degree (cough), makes sales calls
for me, negotiates my RFPs, cleans my windows, and increased sales of fish net stockings in the tranny community.

She wasn't likable, but I respect her for doing her job and putting up with a lot of ****.

After Zimpher left UC, the audit she ordered at Binghamton resulted in their president resigning, the AD getting fired, and the basketball coach ultimately losing his job.

You don't have to like her, but we were lucky to have her. She got things done.

I was not lucky to have her. She did nothing of value for me in any manner whatsoever. Same for Ono. I make my own breaks in life.

Um...ok.

You think a Univ president makes your life better?

Universities play a very important roll in the community and can directly impact the lives of the people who live in that community.

Since this is a sports board, I'll use a sports example. If Ono's leadership gets us into a P5 conference, will my life be better? Yeah, I'd say it would be. I'd be happy. Is P5 membership high in my hierarchical structure of basic wants and needs? No. But I would enjoy seeing Texas and Oklahoma play at Nippert and it would raise the profile of my alma mater.

UC has been trying for 15 years to get a National Cancer Center designation for the Barrett Cancer Center. Ono recently enlisted Mr. Barrett from Western Southern to raise $100M to help make this designation a reality. Having a top notch medical research facility like this - or like Cincinati Children's - directly impacts our lives.

And yes, it makes our lives better.

Great leadership who gets things done positively impacts your life.