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(12-01-2015 12:09 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  "The Great Topper Dropoff".... Drop off from what? One good season where WKU hasn't even won the championship yet??? I don't get the comments either. WKU is talented but it's not like WKU has been gong to and winning conf championships for awhile now. Great single year though no doubt.

Yeah I know what you mean about those conference championships...

not many left in CUSA has anything but a great single year..winning conference championships. For a while now. Hell what was I thinking saying many...no one is more like it.
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The contents of this message are hidden because WKUYG is on your ignore list.

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It comes with the territory of being a winner. People always want to see you knocked off the horse. People love to hate you. Try to enjory it while you can. Because one day, they will completely stop talking about you. And that's when you really need to be worried.
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Wku also had tremendous luck with injuries this year. You only lost one start on offensive line all season. On D line you had 3 guys start every game. Higbee and Allen were the only meaningful lost playing time this year. You need that kind of luck to have a great year.
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(12-01-2015 04:44 PM)MasMack Wrote:  It comes with the territory of being a winner. People always want to see you knocked off the horse. People love to hate you. Try to enjory it while you can. Because one day, they will completely stop talking about you. And that's when you really need to be worried.

being relevant is fun....handling it with dignity is even better....respect and humility goes a long way....

well said mack.....that pretty much sums up the previous three years combined with this one for southern miss fans....
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I think the UAB transfers were also a shot in the arm for WKU. How many of them are gone after this season? They were a nice short term lift for Daughty's 6th season, but at the cost of developmental PT for the younger guys.
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Ill say it now, and mark it down.

Marshall and MTSU will be the teams to beat in the east next season. And USM will win the west going away.

WKU will be in another bowl.
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(12-01-2015 12:31 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 12:09 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  "The Great Topper Dropoff".... Drop off from what? One good season where WKU hasn't even won the championship yet??? I don't get the comments either. WKU is talented but it's not like WKU has been gong to and winning conf championships for awhile now. Great single year though no doubt.

Yeah I know what you mean about those conference championships...

not many left in CUSA has anything but a great single year..winning conference championships. For a while now. Hell what was I thinking saying many...no one is more like it.

Marshall has played in the last two CCGs, and was 1 game away from a 3rd in a transition year for a new QB. Have a shot for a 3rd consecutive 10+ win season, which is fantastic. All indications point toward being there again next season, with a much better offense and a sophomore QB.

good luck, but USM is gonna eat your lunch saturday.
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(12-01-2015 05:12 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Ill say it now, and mark it down.

Marshall and MTSU will be the teams to beat in the east next season. And USM will win the west going away.

WKU will be in another bowl.

I would toss ODU in as a dark horse....don't discount what WKU will recruit this year.....eyeballs are upon the toppers....and it's deserved

southern miss should be as good or better next year based on personnel retention alone....

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WKU will do everything they can next year to help as many CUSA teams become Bowl Eligible as possible. We're team players.
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(12-01-2015 05:23 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  WKU will do everything they can next year to help as many CUSA teams become Bowl Eligible as possible. We're team players.

lol.....
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(12-01-2015 05:23 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  WKU will do everything they can next year to help as many CUSA teams become Bowl Eligible as possible. We're team players.

See there you go again...





No time to argue heading to BG ...hopefully Western gets a win tonight against Eastern.



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(12-01-2015 09:23 AM)Jacque Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 09:18 AM)Surbadger Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 09:08 AM)HanselTop Wrote:  I have read an unbelievable amount of posts that console the fanbases of butthurt fans when their teams lose to WKU. The common belief is to disregard the success of WKU because we will fall to a subpar team next season when Doughty and Brohm are gone. Not only do I see it here, but I also see it on other message boards, the same message, repeatedly, heavily after they lose.

First off, Brohm may not have 2 feet out the door, and if he is...
You will all be talking about coach Helton being hired away this time next year.

Secondly, we are VERY talented at a lot of positions moving into next year including QB. You will all be wondering when Mike White graduates.

I hate to break it to you, but WKU is being built with depth. We will compete again for the east next year, which will be stacked, because MU, MT, and FAU look to be very good.

Get use to it. This is what happens when you are winning. Think back to last year when everyone dismissed Marshall because of an easy schedule and Cato at QB. It will blow over eventually as long as you can prove them wrong.

What is interesting about your reference to last year and Cato is that the Marshall fans stated that the team was more than just Cato and would still be successful (which you have, however to a lesser degree). Yet Marshall fans are some of the ones who are most aggressively arguing that WKU will tank because Doughty is leaving. WKU is more than just Doughty. Not trying to start a war here, just pointing out the inconsistency of the postings of some.
Of course, if we were all completely rational human beings we wouldn't be football fans who spent so much time on a message board! Haha

I think the factor in the record MU has this year is because of Injuries and essential players leaving. Last year, we arguably had the most depth at WR, but one graduated and another was thrown off the team. Our starting QB was hurt before the Ohio game and our Offensive line has been injured all year. The biggest loss by far has been the would be best RB is the conference. Johnson hasn't been healthy since the beginning of the season and it has really hurt. I just do not think it was as big of a drop off as people think. Yes, there was going to be because the leader of the team and future hall of famer Rakeem Cato was gone. Overall, I am happy with our team even through all the injuries and loss of players. I mean, we have gone 5 deep into our RB depth chart at some points. That's bad...
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(12-02-2015 01:02 PM)Surbadger Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 09:23 AM)Jacque Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 09:18 AM)Surbadger Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 09:08 AM)HanselTop Wrote:  I have read an unbelievable amount of posts that console the fanbases of butthurt fans when their teams lose to WKU. The common belief is to disregard the success of WKU because we will fall to a subpar team next season when Doughty and Brohm are gone. Not only do I see it here, but I also see it on other message boards, the same message, repeatedly, heavily after they lose.

First off, Brohm may not have 2 feet out the door, and if he is...
You will all be talking about coach Helton being hired away this time next year.

Secondly, we are VERY talented at a lot of positions moving into next year including QB. You will all be wondering when Mike White graduates.

I hate to break it to you, but WKU is being built with depth. We will compete again for the east next year, which will be stacked, because MU, MT, and FAU look to be very good.

Get use to it. This is what happens when you are winning. Think back to last year when everyone dismissed Marshall because of an easy schedule and Cato at QB. It will blow over eventually as long as you can prove them wrong.

What is interesting about your reference to last year and Cato is that the Marshall fans stated that the team was more than just Cato and would still be successful (which you have, however to a lesser degree). Yet Marshall fans are some of the ones who are most aggressively arguing that WKU will tank because Doughty is leaving. WKU is more than just Doughty. Not trying to start a war here, just pointing out the inconsistency of the postings of some.
Of course, if we were all completely rational human beings we wouldn't be football fans who spent so much time on a message board! Haha

I think the factor in the record MU has this year is because of Injuries and essential players leaving. Last year, we arguably had the most depth at WR, but one graduated and another was thrown off the team. Our starting QB was hurt before the Ohio game and our Offensive line has been injured all year. The biggest loss by far has been the would be best RB is the conference. Johnson hasn't been healthy since the beginning of the season and it has really hurt. I just do not think it was as big of a drop off as people think. Yes, there was going to be because the leader of the team and future hall of famer Rakeem Cato was gone. Overall, I am happy with our team even through all the injuries and loss of players. I mean, we have gone 5 deep into our RB depth chart at some points. That's bad...

I agree and you somewhat make my point. MU's problems this year were not because of the loss of Cato, but injuries, etc. Unless you are saying that Doughty is more valuable to WKU than Cato was for MU, then the loss of Doughty should not be any more detrimental to WKU than the loss of Cato was to MU. Both teams have many good players besides those two. I do not believe WKU will have a significant drop in offensive production as the top 8 OL are returning which is the foundation of any good offense. My concern is on defense, particularly DT as WKU loses 3 of the top 5 DTs. But we will no more this time next year. At this point it is just conjecture on all our parts.
This time last year USM was coming off another rough season and this year are playing lights out. Five months ago, the prognosticators were anointing Auburn as a CFP participant and now that are barely treading water.
As that famous philosopher Joaquin Andujar once said, "You never know."
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(12-02-2015 04:31 PM)Jacque Wrote:  
(12-02-2015 01:02 PM)Surbadger Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 09:23 AM)Jacque Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 09:18 AM)Surbadger Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 09:08 AM)HanselTop Wrote:  I have read an unbelievable amount of posts that console the fanbases of butthurt fans when their teams lose to WKU. The common belief is to disregard the success of WKU because we will fall to a subpar team next season when Doughty and Brohm are gone. Not only do I see it here, but I also see it on other message boards, the same message, repeatedly, heavily after they lose.

First off, Brohm may not have 2 feet out the door, and if he is...
You will all be talking about coach Helton being hired away this time next year.

Secondly, we are VERY talented at a lot of positions moving into next year including QB. You will all be wondering when Mike White graduates.

I hate to break it to you, but WKU is being built with depth. We will compete again for the east next year, which will be stacked, because MU, MT, and FAU look to be very good.

Get use to it. This is what happens when you are winning. Think back to last year when everyone dismissed Marshall because of an easy schedule and Cato at QB. It will blow over eventually as long as you can prove them wrong.

What is interesting about your reference to last year and Cato is that the Marshall fans stated that the team was more than just Cato and would still be successful (which you have, however to a lesser degree). Yet Marshall fans are some of the ones who are most aggressively arguing that WKU will tank because Doughty is leaving. WKU is more than just Doughty. Not trying to start a war here, just pointing out the inconsistency of the postings of some.
Of course, if we were all completely rational human beings we wouldn't be football fans who spent so much time on a message board! Haha

I think the factor in the record MU has this year is because of Injuries and essential players leaving. Last year, we arguably had the most depth at WR, but one graduated and another was thrown off the team. Our starting QB was hurt before the Ohio game and our Offensive line has been injured all year. The biggest loss by far has been the would be best RB is the conference. Johnson hasn't been healthy since the beginning of the season and it has really hurt. I just do not think it was as big of a drop off as people think. Yes, there was going to be because the leader of the team and future hall of famer Rakeem Cato was gone. Overall, I am happy with our team even through all the injuries and loss of players. I mean, we have gone 5 deep into our RB depth chart at some points. That's bad...

I agree and you somewhat make my point. MU's problems this year were not because of the loss of Cato, but injuries, etc. Unless you are saying that Doughty is more valuable to WKU than Cato was for MU, then the loss of Doughty should not be any more detrimental to WKU than the loss of Cato was to MU. Both teams have many good players besides those two. I do not believe WKU will have a significant drop in offensive production as the top 8 OL are returning which is the foundation of any good offense. My concern is on defense, particularly DT as WKU loses 3 of the top 5 DTs. But we will no more this time next year. At this point it is just conjecture on all our parts.
This time last year USM was coming off another rough season and this year are playing lights out. Five months ago, the prognosticators were anointing Auburn as a CFP participant and now that are barely treading water.
As that famous philosopher Joaquin Andujar once said, "You never know."

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(12-02-2015 04:46 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-02-2015 04:31 PM)Jacque Wrote:  
(12-02-2015 01:02 PM)Surbadger Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 09:23 AM)Jacque Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 09:18 AM)Surbadger Wrote:  Get use to it. This is what happens when you are winning. Think back to last year when everyone dismissed Marshall because of an easy schedule and Cato at QB. It will blow over eventually as long as you can prove them wrong.

What is interesting about your reference to last year and Cato is that the Marshall fans stated that the team was more than just Cato and would still be successful (which you have, however to a lesser degree). Yet Marshall fans are some of the ones who are most aggressively arguing that WKU will tank because Doughty is leaving. WKU is more than just Doughty. Not trying to start a war here, just pointing out the inconsistency of the postings of some.
Of course, if we were all completely rational human beings we wouldn't be football fans who spent so much time on a message board! Haha

I think the factor in the record MU has this year is because of Injuries and essential players leaving. Last year, we arguably had the most depth at WR, but one graduated and another was thrown off the team. Our starting QB was hurt before the Ohio game and our Offensive line has been injured all year. The biggest loss by far has been the would be best RB is the conference. Johnson hasn't been healthy since the beginning of the season and it has really hurt. I just do not think it was as big of a drop off as people think. Yes, there was going to be because the leader of the team and future hall of famer Rakeem Cato was gone. Overall, I am happy with our team even through all the injuries and loss of players. I mean, we have gone 5 deep into our RB depth chart at some points. That's bad...

I agree and you somewhat make my point. MU's problems this year were not because of the loss of Cato, but injuries, etc. Unless you are saying that Doughty is more valuable to WKU than Cato was for MU, then the loss of Doughty should not be any more detrimental to WKU than the loss of Cato was to MU. Both teams have many good players besides those two. I do not believe WKU will have a significant drop in offensive production as the top 8 OL are returning which is the foundation of any good offense. My concern is on defense, particularly DT as WKU loses 3 of the top 5 DTs. But we will no more this time next year. At this point it is just conjecture on all our parts.
This time last year USM was coming off another rough season and this year are playing lights out. Five months ago, the prognosticators were anointing Auburn as a CFP participant and now that are barely treading water.
As that famous philosopher Joaquin Andujar once said, "You never know."

the arcane ref o' day......made me spit on my screen.....

Whether you liked some of his shenanagins (sp) or not, you have to admit that he was entertaining.
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(12-03-2015 11:02 AM)Jacque Wrote:  
(12-02-2015 04:46 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(12-02-2015 04:31 PM)Jacque Wrote:  
(12-02-2015 01:02 PM)Surbadger Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 09:23 AM)Jacque Wrote:  What is interesting about your reference to last year and Cato is that the Marshall fans stated that the team was more than just Cato and would still be successful (which you have, however to a lesser degree). Yet Marshall fans are some of the ones who are most aggressively arguing that WKU will tank because Doughty is leaving. WKU is more than just Doughty. Not trying to start a war here, just pointing out the inconsistency of the postings of some.
Of course, if we were all completely rational human beings we wouldn't be football fans who spent so much time on a message board! Haha

I think the factor in the record MU has this year is because of Injuries and essential players leaving. Last year, we arguably had the most depth at WR, but one graduated and another was thrown off the team. Our starting QB was hurt before the Ohio game and our Offensive line has been injured all year. The biggest loss by far has been the would be best RB is the conference. Johnson hasn't been healthy since the beginning of the season and it has really hurt. I just do not think it was as big of a drop off as people think. Yes, there was going to be because the leader of the team and future hall of famer Rakeem Cato was gone. Overall, I am happy with our team even through all the injuries and loss of players. I mean, we have gone 5 deep into our RB depth chart at some points. That's bad...

I agree and you somewhat make my point. MU's problems this year were not because of the loss of Cato, but injuries, etc. Unless you are saying that Doughty is more valuable to WKU than Cato was for MU, then the loss of Doughty should not be any more detrimental to WKU than the loss of Cato was to MU. Both teams have many good players besides those two. I do not believe WKU will have a significant drop in offensive production as the top 8 OL are returning which is the foundation of any good offense. My concern is on defense, particularly DT as WKU loses 3 of the top 5 DTs. But we will no more this time next year. At this point it is just conjecture on all our parts.
This time last year USM was coming off another rough season and this year are playing lights out. Five months ago, the prognosticators were anointing Auburn as a CFP participant and now that are barely treading water.
As that famous philosopher Joaquin Andujar once said, "You never know."

the arcane ref o' day......made me spit on my screen.....

Whether you liked some of his shenanagins (sp) or not, you have to admit that he was entertaining.

as a StL native.....that guy wasn't a 'kick in the arse' in a funny kind of way...mark fidrych was the master of zen.....reminds me of kaufman vs andrew dice clay....
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(12-01-2015 05:03 PM)banker Wrote:  Wku also had tremendous luck with injuries this year. You only lost one start on offensive line all season. On D line you had 3 guys start every game. Higbee and Allen were the only meaningful lost playing time this year. You need that kind of luck to have a great year.
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Two guys who will have a good chance to play on Sunday at a G5 school and we were lucky? I would think most teams lost less such significant players as WKU.
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(12-03-2015 08:48 PM)Franko Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 05:03 PM)banker Wrote:  Wku also had tremendous luck with injuries this year. You only lost one start on offensive line all season. On D line you had 3 guys start every game. Higbee and Allen were the only meaningful lost playing time this year. You need that kind of luck to have a great year.
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Two guys who will have a good chance to play on Sunday at a G5 school and we were lucky? I would think most teams lost less such significant players as WKU.

Matt Nord has not played one down for us this season. He was going to start for us on the offensive line.

Anthony "Ace" Wales did not play until the 5th game of the season. In that game he had 9 yards on 3 carries. He currently has 933 yards on 129 carries.

Our offensive line has been very good this season. We will have even more depth next season with a healthy Matt Nord.

A lot of our fans (Myself included) think we would be 11-1 right now if Anthony "Ace" Wales had been able to play against Indiana.
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