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RE: Fiedler
Both qbs received no other offers. I am sure Graham got the nod because Fiedler is a true freshman, where Graham has been here a year..
I don't think its going to matter for the MACC, but I for one would like to see Fiedler play more to get an idea of how well he plays
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RE: Fiedler
(12-02-2015 08:37 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote: I thought they were easy questions to answer but they left without answering...
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RE: Fiedler
Good bye, my *****...
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RE: Fiedler
(12-02-2015 07:30 PM)Who You Crappin? Wrote: (12-02-2015 07:02 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote: Can you point out where I was extreme? It's the second time I'm asking...
You obviously thought Ohio was in tight coverage, no? You were pretty riled up about 7 saying that they weren't in tight coverage. To the point you had to bring up how many times you said Hare was better than Maddie, and you called Spann being special, and you said Doeren needed to make defensive personnel changes. All things that have nothing to do with the argument at hand. Then barking at zdsmith because he adds something to the conversation? He even admitted that he didn't have a horse in the argument and you still jumped on his ass. I'd say that's extreme.
For the record, I was typing a response, but then I just kept on living my life. You're obviously incapable of giving a response without throwing insults at people. I'll have an adult conversation if you're capable of that. Otherwise, I don't do the feeding on this board.
Is it really an argument if I made one post and he responded to his own post 20 times? Maybe if you count him arguing with himself...lol.
For the record, saying you (not you, the other dude) would start Fiedler over Graham if both were healthy is a Top 10 dumb posts all time on this board. And that's saying something.
(This post was last modified: 12-02-2015 11:04 PM by 7.)
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RE: Fiedler
(12-02-2015 08:38 PM)cartershaw Wrote: Both qbs received no other offers. I am sure Graham got the nod because Fiedler is a true freshman, where Graham has been here a year..
I don't think its going to matter for the MACC, but I for one would like to see Fiedler play more to get an idea of how well he plays
In the intrerest of accuracy, Graham had an offer (NIU). Fiedler had no offers.
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RE: Fiedler
(12-02-2015 08:37 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote: I thought they were easy questions to answer but they left without answering...
I didn't think you said anything extreme, but there are a few on here that like to jump all over others' posts as if they have all the answers.
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RE: Fiedler
(12-02-2015 07:52 PM)armour248 Wrote: If badmoon isn't under the age of 20 then I'm pretty sure he has some sort of ego/personality problem. I'd just let it go. The maturity level in these posts has gotten close to the ISU vs NIU battle level.
id put the age over/under at 15
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(12-02-2015 11:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (12-02-2015 08:37 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote: I thought they were easy questions to answer but they left without answering...
I didn't think you said anything extreme, but there are a few on here that like to jump all over others' posts as if they have all the answers.
Pretty obvious who they are on this thread, but the main one is fired professional writer/7/Maddie Boy/Idiot. Yeah, like it's really dumb to say a freshman should start ahead of another (redshirt) freshman who started a total of three (two after tomorrow) more games than him. If you poll any OC or head coach, they'd start a guy who would stand tall against a rush and complete a pass than the one that tucked and turned his back (and was injured). Yeah! That is absolutely moronic! (The idiot sounds dumber and dumber after each post!) Again, I'm sure Graham can learn from it and become a better QB, but obviously Fiedler has it innately and I'm excited to see how he performs tomorrow.
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RE: Fiedler
The same thing happened when I brought up Spann, the defense during Doeren's first year, and Hare. Hoping you can also add Fiedler to the list...
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RE: Fiedler
(12-03-2015 11:04 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote: (12-02-2015 11:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (12-02-2015 08:37 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote: I thought they were easy questions to answer but they left without answering...
I didn't think you said anything extreme, but there are a few on here that like to jump all over others' posts as if they have all the answers.
Pretty obvious who they are on this thread, but the main one is fired professional writer/7/Maddie Boy/Idiot. Yeah, like it's really dumb to say a freshman should start ahead of another (redshirt) freshman who started a total of three (two after tomorrow) more games than him. If you poll any OC or head coach, they'd start a guy who would stand tall against a rush a complete a pass than the one that tucked and turned his back (and was injured). Yeah! That is absolutely moronic! (The idiot sounds dumber and dumber after each post!) Again, I'm sure Graham can learn from it and become a better QB, but obviously Fiedler has it innately and I'm excited to see how he performs tomorrow.
Dude lighten up ok. Take a pill. The coaches played who they thought gave them the best chance to win. And he won a couple big games as proof that it was not a bad decision. And there is more to playing QB than standing and taking a hit. Sometimes it is being smart and to protect the football and not turn it over. Yes that would be tucking, sliding, falling, etc on the ground. Live to fight another play.
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RE: Fiedler
(12-03-2015 11:16 AM)leguptopee Wrote: (12-03-2015 11:04 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote: (12-02-2015 11:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (12-02-2015 08:37 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote: I thought they were easy questions to answer but they left without answering...
I didn't think you said anything extreme, but there are a few on here that like to jump all over others' posts as if they have all the answers.
Pretty obvious who they are on this thread, but the main one is fired professional writer/7/Maddie Boy/Idiot. Yeah, like it's really dumb to say a freshman should start ahead of another (redshirt) freshman who started a total of three (two after tomorrow) more games than him. If you poll any OC or head coach, they'd start a guy who would stand tall against a rush a complete a pass than the one that tucked and turned his back (and was injured). Yeah! That is absolutely moronic! (The idiot sounds dumber and dumber after each post!) Again, I'm sure Graham can learn from it and become a better QB, but obviously Fiedler has it innately and I'm excited to see how he performs tomorrow.
Dude lighten up ok. Take a pill. The coaches played who they thought gave them the best chance to win. And he won a couple big games as proof that it was not a bad decision. And there is more to playing QB than standing and taking a hit. Sometimes it is being smart and to protect the football and not turn it over. Yes that would be tucking, sliding, falling, etc on the ground. Live to fight another play.
I never questioned the coach's decision to start Graham. I said I was excited about Fiedler and why I was excited about him. I'm also in a very good mood. Yes, it is smart to protect the ball, but there is a difference between being intimidated by a rush and standing up to a rush. I'm afraid the rush really got to Graham and he was ineffective as a lot of QBs would be. The coaches didn't help him whatsoever by only calling the playaction three times but Fiedler didn't throw any playaction passes. He stood tall. I like Graham and no QB is perfect. I'm sure Fiedler's weakness will show at some time. Hope we don't figure it out tomorrow.
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RE: Fiedler
(12-03-2015 11:26 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote: (12-03-2015 11:16 AM)leguptopee Wrote: (12-03-2015 11:04 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote: (12-02-2015 11:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (12-02-2015 08:37 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote: I thought they were easy questions to answer but they left without answering...
I didn't think you said anything extreme, but there are a few on here that like to jump all over others' posts as if they have all the answers.
Pretty obvious who they are on this thread, but the main one is fired professional writer/7/Maddie Boy/Idiot. Yeah, like it's really dumb to say a freshman should start ahead of another (redshirt) freshman who started a total of three (two after tomorrow) more games than him. If you poll any OC or head coach, they'd start a guy who would stand tall against a rush a complete a pass than the one that tucked and turned his back (and was injured). Yeah! That is absolutely moronic! (The idiot sounds dumber and dumber after each post!) Again, I'm sure Graham can learn from it and become a better QB, but obviously Fiedler has it innately and I'm excited to see how he performs tomorrow.
Dude lighten up ok. Take a pill. The coaches played who they thought gave them the best chance to win. And he won a couple big games as proof that it was not a bad decision. And there is more to playing QB than standing and taking a hit. Sometimes it is being smart and to protect the football and not turn it over. Yes that would be tucking, sliding, falling, etc on the ground. Live to fight another play.
I never questioned the coach's decision to start Graham. I said I was excited about Fiedler and why I was excited about him. I'm also in a very good mood. Yes, it is smart to protect the ball, but there is a difference between being intimidated by a rush and standing up to a rush. I'm afraid the rush really got to Graham and he was ineffective as a lot of QBs would be. The coaches didn't help him whatsoever by only calling the playaction three times but Fiedler didn't throw any playaction passes. He stood tall. I like Graham and no QB is perfect. I'm sure Fiedler's weakness will show at some time. Hope we don't figure it out tomorrow.
Well to imply Graham was "intimidated" is the assumption you are making.
Just don't think anyone can say Graham "tucked" because he's afraid of being hit, vs. not trying to protect the football and turn it over.
It's not the first blitz the young man has ever seen in his life and he has been hit many many many times.
Your entitled to an "opinion" though.
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You're right. Intimidated is an assumption, but he did not handle the pressure as well as Fiedler did in the fourth quarter. I think that was obvious and observable.
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The reality is both Graham and Fiedler were put into incredibly difficult situations and performed admirably. Fiedler's body of work is significantly smaller, but there is no denying, he stepped up. If the injuries never happened, Graham and Fiedler would have likely been 4th and 5th respectively on the depth chart. You have to feel bad for Maddie who would have had his chance once Hare went down. His size and skill sets were similar to that of JL, who knows where he could have taken us. If Santacaterina, who may be the most talented of the bunch, was healthy he would have been next in line (still not sure how you can come back from elbow surgery that quickly, and now be the back up). One thing is for sure, we are not in this game if Graham didn't do what he did against Toledo, Buffalo and WMU.
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RE: Fiedler
(12-03-2015 03:20 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote: You're right. Intimidated is an assumption, but he did not handle the pressure as well as Fiedler did in the fourth quarter. I think that was obvious and observable.
Not so sure about that one. I think they play a different game. I think (this is an assumption, not a statement) that Tommy Cajones is, as you say, a bit more of a pocket guy while Graham was more of a mobile-type. Kind of like the difference between Lynch and Harnish.
Nothing wrong with either one, just hope Cajones can lead us to victory.
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RE: Fiedler
(12-03-2015 03:47 PM)Djud Wrote: The reality is both Graham and Fiedler were put into incredibly difficult situations and performed admirably. Fiedler's body of work is significantly smaller, but there is no denying, he stepped up. If the injuries never happened, Graham and Fiedler would have likely been 4th and 5th respectively on the depth chart. You have to feel bad for Maddie who would have had his chance once Hare went down. His size and skill sets were similar to that of JL, who knows where he could have taken us. If Santacaterina, who may be the most talented of the bunch, was healthy he would have been next in line (still not sure how you can come back from elbow surgery that quickly, and now be the back up). One thing is for sure, we are not in this game if Graham didn't do what he did against Toledo, Buffalo and WMU.
It's unreal how well the backups have done, all things considered. Big credit to them for giving NIU ANY chance at the MACC.
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RE: Fiedler
When did this board get taken over by a bunch of girls in jr. high?
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