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Air it out?
So, Fielder it is.
The Lynch, then Hare, then Graham offense is gone...and/or perhaps it should be.
The kid looks like he can sling it.
Why is it that I am more afraid of him trying to run the aforementioned offense than one I propose?

We have two very tall and experienced WRs' in Kenny and Juan. Spread em out and wide and throw. Leave Deuce lingering and ready. Great WRs' help to make their QB's look good...or even great.

We are NOT playing the D of Ohio St, or BC. Not even CMU or Toledo. They are likely preparing for our watered down Huskie O. They will likely have success at defending that. I am more afraid of pick 6 on a 4 yard screen pass. An interception on a bomb will act as a punt. But, might also turn into a TD or long completion or a pass-interference...Or, just a nothing.

What better to open up the run...then the pass? And, sprinkle in our typical NIU passing O along the way.

BG is going to score. A LOT. WE best try and keep up and ring in the Fielder era and get him ready for his bowl game.
11-30-2015 03:22 PM
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RE: Air it out?
(11-30-2015 03:22 PM)blackhawk Wrote:  So, Fielder it is.
The Lynch, then Hare, then Graham offense is gone...and/or perhaps it should be.
The kid looks like he can sling it.
Why is it that I am more afraid of him trying to run the aforementioned offense than one I propose?

We have two very tall and experienced WRs' in Kenny and Juan. Spread em out and wide and throw. Leave Deuce lingering and ready. Great WRs' help to make their QB's look good...or even great.

We are NOT playing the D of Ohio St, or BC. Not even CMU or Toledo. They are likely preparing for our watered down Huskie O. They will likely have success at defending that. I am more afraid of pick 6 on a 4 yard screen pass. An interception on a bomb will act as a punt. But, might also turn into a TD or long completion or a pass-interference...Or, just a nothing.

What better to open up the run...then the pass? And, sprinkle in our typical NIU passing O along the way.

BG is going to score. A LOT. WE best try and keep up and ring in the Fielder era and get him ready for his bowl game.
I say air it out, which will open up the run. This game we have to bring the entire bag of tricks with us to win, or chance of winning. I think going for it on 4th down makes sense as well, punting is not very palatable so let's go for it when it makes even just a little sense.
11-30-2015 03:26 PM
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RE: Air it out?
(11-30-2015 03:26 PM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 03:22 PM)blackhawk Wrote:  So, Fielder it is.
The Lynch, then Hare, then Graham offense is gone...and/or perhaps it should be.
The kid looks like he can sling it.
Why is it that I am more afraid of him trying to run the aforementioned offense than one I propose?

We have two very tall and experienced WRs' in Kenny and Juan. Spread em out and wide and throw. Leave Deuce lingering and ready. Great WRs' help to make their QB's look good...or even great.

We are NOT playing the D of Ohio St, or BC. Not even CMU or Toledo. They are likely preparing for our watered down Huskie O. They will likely have success at defending that. I am more afraid of pick 6 on a 4 yard screen pass. An interception on a bomb will act as a punt. But, might also turn into a TD or long completion or a pass-interference...Or, just a nothing.

What better to open up the run...then the pass? And, sprinkle in our typical NIU passing O along the way.

BG is going to score. A LOT. WE best try and keep up and ring in the Fielder era and get him ready for his bowl game.
I say air it out, which will open up the run. This game we have to bring the entire bag of tricks with us to win, or chance of winning. I think going for it on 4th down makes sense as well, punting is not very palatable so let's go for it when it makes even just a little sense.

I would open with Deuce in the wildcat formation and Fiedler at flanker.
11-30-2015 03:28 PM
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RE: Air it out?
Correct me if I'm wrong. I do not beleive we have run what many would call a 'Trick Play" all darn year?
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RE: Air it out?
The problem with airing it out is, our young QB's are not as efficient as our opponents QB. So the more we fail to score the more chances they get to score, which they've proven they can do in bunches. I think our best chance is to shorten the game (running more), and then hoping our D can make a few stops.
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I'll say what I said the second Hare went down... You can't be afraid to let the kid throw the ball. You have nothing to lose by letting him play a complete game. I feel the same with Fiedler.
11-30-2015 03:46 PM
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(11-30-2015 03:30 PM)NorthHuskie Wrote:  Correct me if I'm wrong. I do not beleive we have run what many would call a 'Trick Play" all darn year?

Yep, pooch punting in place of a real punting game doesn't qualify as a trick play anymore.

I really don't recall any real double reverses, running back passes, etc. We hung with Ohio State and there was a point where Carey realized we really had a chance to win that game so we didn't have to get to the trick bag.
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(11-30-2015 03:48 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 03:30 PM)NorthHuskie Wrote:  Correct me if I'm wrong. I do not beleive we have run what many would call a 'Trick Play" all darn year?

Yep, pooch punting in place of a real punting game doesn't qualify as a trick play anymore.

I really don't recall any real double reverses, running back passes, etc. We hung with Ohio State and there was a point where Carey realized we really had a chance to win that game so we didn't have to get to the trick bag.

trick plays are the sign of desperation IMHO and the signature mark of Fleck coaching. if you can't beat em, trick em.
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RE: Air it out?
(11-30-2015 03:22 PM)blackhawk Wrote:  So, Fielder it is.
The Lynch, then Hare, then Graham offense is gone...and/or perhaps it should be.
The kid looks like he can sling it.
Why is it that I am more afraid of him trying to run the aforementioned offense than one I propose?

We have two very tall and experienced WRs' in Kenny and Juan. Spread em out and wide and throw. Leave Deuce lingering and ready. Great WRs' help to make their QB's look good...or even great.

We are NOT playing the D of Ohio St, or BC. Not even CMU or Toledo. They are likely preparing for our watered down Huskie O. They will likely have success at defending that. I am more afraid of pick 6 on a 4 yard screen pass. An interception on a bomb will act as a punt. But, might also turn into a TD or long completion or a pass-interference...Or, just a nothing.

What better to open up the run...then the pass? And, sprinkle in our typical NIU passing O along the way.

BG is going to score. A LOT. WE best try and keep up and ring in the Fielder era and get him ready for his bowl game.

Or maybe not. BG has a better O, but the Huskies have a better D. It is a collision between an unstoppable force and an immovable object. If it turns into a shootout, that's BG's game and the Huskies are in trouble. If the Huskie D can step up like they did vs Toledo, WMU and Ohio State, their O will score enough to win.

If Carey can get away with being Joe Conservative, he should ride that horse.
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(11-30-2015 03:30 PM)NorthHuskie Wrote:  Correct me if I'm wrong. I do not beleive we have run what many would call a 'Trick Play" all darn year?

I'm hoping we try and "trick" them by throwing to the TE.
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(11-30-2015 05:08 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 03:30 PM)NorthHuskie Wrote:  Correct me if I'm wrong. I do not beleive we have run what many would call a 'Trick Play" all darn year?

I'm hoping we try and "trick" them by throwing to the TE.

05-stirthepot Well.....you know THEY will!
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Deuce, Huff, ACRB all in the backfield at the same time 03-cloud9
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RE: Air it out?
Our coaches stubbornly adhere to their run the ball and stop the run philosophy. That will not change for this game and it probably shouldn't. That said, I do hope that they give Fielder as much of the playbook that he can handle.
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If we air it out, our offense will be on the field for 45 seconds before punting it back to Bowling Green. Seemed like that's what happened against WMU, granted it was really windy but he took a lot of shots downfield that missed the mark. WMU ended up holding onto the football waaaay longer than NIU. We're lucky our defense didn't cave from being so worn out.
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Two words: Triple option.
BG won't know what hit them.
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(11-30-2015 08:23 PM)numbersdontlie Wrote:  Two words: Triple option.
BG won't know what hit them.

Problem with that is that it is a whole new offensive system that needs to be learned and practiced over a long period of time.

Our only hope is that the O line steps up big time, we establish the run and Fiedler can throw it often enough and effectively enough to prevent BG from packing the box.
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Wildcat? Triple option?

There is a reason nobody runs these with even an ounce of regularity.....they don't work.

I think I would emphasize giving Galladay and Brescacin the chance to go up and make plays.Don't be afraid especially on 3rd and long, given the current punting situation.
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(11-30-2015 08:52 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  Wildcat? Triple option?

There is a reason nobody runs these with even an ounce of regularity.....they don't work.

Navy and Georgia Tech beg to differ. The service academies runs it out of necessity because they don't have the same types of athletes as the rest of d1. They control the clock and limit possessions.
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(11-30-2015 08:52 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  Wildcat? Triple option?

There is a reason nobody runs these with even an ounce of regularity.....they don't work.

I think I would emphasize giving Galladay and Brescacin the chance to go up and make plays.Don't be afraid especially on 3rd and long, given the current punting situation.

The "air it out" model can be looked at a couple of ways: we can try to keep up in a track meet, or we turn the ball over on high risk plays (BG has 17 int's this year, 196 pts off TO's)....for comparison, we have 65 pts off TO's
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(11-30-2015 07:49 PM)SiegInc Wrote:  If we air it out, our offense will be on the field for 45 seconds before punting it back to Bowling Green. Seemed like that's what happened against WMU, granted it was really windy but he took a lot of shots downfield that missed the mark. WMU ended up holding onto the football waaaay longer than NIU. We're lucky our defense didn't cave from being so worn out.

Couldn't have said it better. If we had hare it would be different as he has proven this year he can hit the deep balls. This BG team is better than the 2013 team.
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