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(11-30-2015 04:19 PM)Petey Hodge Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 12:09 PM)ODUR8R Wrote:  No way, there is no one for him to guard. Traditionally, Bill and Mary's big players handle and shoot threes and their guards attack the paint.

Just pull him back to the rim... And he can goal-tend all game long

And the guy he is supposed to be guarding can torch us for 30 points on 10-13 3PTs.

Hoping the tunnel traffic is manageable 'cause we're going!

We will be there if the 2 William and Mary fan doesn't wreck the car!! So that's 4-2=2 right!

I think EverRespect is saying we are one big man shy of a full load.

(11-30-2015 05:59 PM)mac Wrote:  I think EverRespect is saying we are one big man shy of a full load.

Not sure I'd say full load, but these are tough but winnable games coming up if we can rebound and make some chippies. We are one big man from top 50 potential and probably 2 big men away from a ranked team. If we can scratch our way back to top 50 when Stith gets back, I'll be happy. Surviving tomorrow could be a turning point because from what I saw on Stiths Twitter, he should be back for Georgia State.

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Could be a long night in the burg for the Monarchs.

(11-30-2015 12:09 PM)ODUR8R Wrote:  No way, there is no one for him to guard. Traditionally, Bill and Mary's big players handle and shoot threes and their guards attack the paint.

There is a way for Peyton to play without having to chase the opposing team's center all around the court. It's called a 2-3 zone defense. Put him in the middle on the back line and he should be able to defend that area of the court. Unfortunately we seem to be stuck on just playing straight half court man-to-man for all 40 minutes.

I'd like to see ODU mix in some zone for several minutes each half because I believe that it would help the offense to have a true center in the low post that the other team had to respect. It would also change the look we were giving the other teams during the games. Another thing that playing some zone would likely do is to cut down on the amount of penetration fouls that we have been picking up. Lots of coaches change defenses coming out of a time out. We pretty much never do ... ever.

I'm sure that things will improve when Stith returns back to full speed from his injury. I'm just not sure that they are going to improve enough to win the big games in conference that we need to win. If Peyton doesn't play, we are a small team. Stith is basically the same size as Taylor, just a little bit heavier. Small teams are usually only successful if they are strong outside shooting teams (we aren't ... at least thus far), or strong defensive teams that press and create lots of turnovers (we don't do that either). If we were a strong rebounding team then we could maybe rebound, kick it out, and fast break with our smaller/quicker guys for easy high percentage shots, but unfortunately we aren't a dominate rebounding team either.

Peyton may not be the answer. I haven't seen enough of him to form an opinion on what his impact might be to the team. But, I don't think some of the guys currently playing heavy minutes are providing the answers either, and I am not confident that will change going forward. JMO

(12-01-2015 12:08 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 12:09 PM)ODUR8R Wrote:  No way, there is no one for him to guard. Traditionally, Bill and Mary's big players handle and shoot threes and their guards attack the paint.

There is a way for Peyton to play without having to chase the opposing team's center all around the court. It's called a 2-3 zone defense. Put him in the middle on the back line and he should be able to defend that area of the court. Unfortunately we seem to be stuck on just playing straight half court man-to-man for all 40 minutes.

I'd like to see ODU mix in some zone for several minutes each half because I believe that it would help the offense to have a true center in the low post that the other team had to respect. It would also change the look we were giving the other teams during the games. Another thing that playing some zone would likely do is to cut down on the amount of penetration fouls that we have been picking up. Lots of coaches change defenses coming out of a time out. We pretty much never do ... ever.

I'm sure that things will improve when Stith returns back to full speed from his injury. I'm just not sure that they are going to improve enough to win the big games in conference that we need to win. If Peyton doesn't play, we are a small team. Stith is basically the same size as Taylor, just a little bit heavier. Small teams are usually only successful if they are strong outside shooting teams (we aren't ... at least thus far), or strong defensive teams that press and create lots of turnovers (we don't do that either). If we were a strong rebounding team then we could maybe rebound, kick it out, and fast break with our smaller/quicker guys for easy high percentage shots, but unfortunately we aren't a dominate rebounding team either.

Peyton may not be the answer. I haven't seen enough of him to form an opinion on what his impact might be to the team. But, I don't think some of the guys currently playing heavy minutes are providing the answers either, and I am not confident that will change going forward. JMO

Stith is a lot bigger than Taylor due to his arms and athleticism. They might be the same height, but Stith is equipped to take on a real big.

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This should be a really tight game.

After studying I've got 80 percent 1-5 point outcome...20 percent Tribe blowout if we don't cut down on their possessions.

ODU +3.5 per 5dimes this AM

I don't know if Jeff was stuck with a schedule that was crafted a couple of years before he got here or what, but playing VCU, WM, UR all on the road is absurd. Hope there's more balance in the future, and yes, I'm aware we had all 3 at home last year. It's still flawed scheduling. I know Jones told some people that he was concerned about the OOC schedule months ago; I wonder if anything's been done to change things.

This could be the type of game where Pervier could help. Not sure how athletic W&M bigs are.

We better win the rebounding margin and make our FT's. If we let them chase down long offensive rebounds on missed 3's and shoot sub 50% (or 60% for that matter) from the line again it could be a tough night.

I thing we're going to come out focused and cover both of those areas and pull out a close one.

W&M always has big's who can step outside and shoot. Give up on the Peyton thing bros! Now, Talley playing more I love. Hopefully he will on the wing.

Whitman and Sheldon, their two 6-9s (Sheldon usually starts) are not outside shooters. Not quick either. Pervier could play vs. them

(12-01-2015 11:21 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Whitman and Sheldon, their two 6-9s (Sheldon usually starts) are not outside shooters. Not quick either. Pervier could play vs. them

Can he hedge out against Dixon or Prewitt? Can he put enough perimeter pressure on Sheldon to prevent backdoor cuts?

I do agree that an interior threat changed the game offensively against the Tribe but worry about him defensively in this game and against Richmond.

(12-01-2015 11:48 AM)ODUR8R Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 11:21 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Whitman and Sheldon, their two 6-9s (Sheldon usually starts) are not outside shooters. Not quick either. Pervier could play vs. them

Can he hedge out against Dixon or Prewitt? Can he put enough perimeter pressure on Sheldon to prevent backdoor cuts?

I do agree that an interior threat changed the game offensively against the Tribe but worry about him defensively in this game and against Richmond.

I think he could be adequate in a zone. Put him in the middle with any combination of Biberaj, Taylor, or Talley on the wings with Freeman and Baycote (or Caver, Baker, or Moseley substituted for either of them) up top and they should be able to contest the shooters along the 3 point line. Boehiem has played that defense successfully at Syracuse for the past 40 years. No reason that ODU couldn't shift into it for a few minutes each half to get Peyton on the floor to support the offense.

If they don't ever intend to play him then why recruit him to begin with? By working out and losing weight during the summer he has to be quicker now than he was when they were recruiting him. Can't say that it is as insurance against injuries since that is where we are now.

Is this game on TV?

(12-01-2015 12:16 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 11:48 AM)ODUR8R Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 11:21 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Whitman and Sheldon, their two 6-9s (Sheldon usually starts) are not outside shooters. Not quick either. Pervier could play vs. them

Can he hedge out against Dixon or Prewitt? Can he put enough perimeter pressure on Sheldon to prevent backdoor cuts?

I do agree that an interior threat changed the game offensively against the Tribe but worry about him defensively in this game and against Richmond.

I think he could be adequate in a zone. Put him in the middle with any combination of Biberaj, Taylor, or Talley on the wings with Freeman and Baycote (or Caver, Baker, or Moseley substituted for either of them) up top and they should be able to contest the shooters along the 3 point line. Boehiem has played that defense successfully at Syracuse for the past 40 years. No reason that ODU couldn't shift into it for a few minutes each half to get Peyton on the floor to support the offense.

If they don't ever intend to play him then why recruit him to begin with? By working out and losing weight during the summer he has to be quicker now than he was when they were recruiting him. Can't say that it is as insurance against injuries since that is where we are now.

Not in JJ DNA just like BT. Sorry very rarely will we use a zone. Might see it come CUSA tournament time and some limited times in a few others games. Zone is not who we are defensively

Just so everyone knows where I stand....MORE TALLEY