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emdypo · 12-17-2015 11:14 AM

I'm actually laughing out loud, is there anything Bob won't complain about? Poor road conditions, wow. You must be a hoot at the company Christmas party "This sucks, everything sucks, food sucks, drinks suck, life sucks, cry, cry, cry". How on earth does somebody become such a grinch. Cheer up Bob, its just a road, its just a football team, its just a basketball team. You really need to find some type of mood enhancement technique. I wonder who taught you that constant complaining ever solves a problem. Perhaps you should donate some money to EMU and earmark it for road and parking lot paving.

Bob Wickersham · 12-17-2015 11:51 AM

(12-17-2015 11:14 AM)emdypo Wrote: I'm actually laughing out loud, is there anything Bob won't complain about? Poor road conditions, wow. You must be a hoot at the company Christmas party "This sucks, everything sucks, food sucks, drinks suck, life sucks, cry, cry, cry". How on earth does somebody become such a grinch. Cheer up Bob, its just a road, its just a football team, its just a basketball team. You really need to find some type of mood enhancement technique. I wonder who taught you that constant complaining ever solves a problem. Perhaps you should donate some money to EMU and earmark it for road and parking lot paving.

It's called infrastructure, attention to detail, pride.

emdypo · 12-17-2015 12:19 PM

Well than drive through campus, EMU has whats called a strategic plan. Mlive has written many articles about it, since EMU's endowment is much lower than other Universities of its size they have to depend on what are called Capital Outlay projects that are partly funded by the State government. Many of EMU's buildings are dated and lacking in technology updates and overall appearance updates. Parking lots and roads are most likely funded by the parking department and a portion of the general fund, and I'm sure in their strategic planning, they rotate through each lot, and university owned road every so many years. And while I'm sure the University and Athletic Department would be more than happy to increase spending to the infrastructure (have you been in Rynearson its crumbling), you can't get blood from a Turnip, so unless you are going to donate to the road paving fund, you will have to wait until its time for that particular area to rotate into the paving schedule. Cheer up Bob, its Christmas.

Bob Wickersham · 12-17-2015 12:40 PM

(12-17-2015 12:19 PM)emdypo Wrote: Well than drive through campus, EMU has whats called a strategic plan. Mlive has written many articles about it, since EMU's endowment is much lower than other Universities of its size they have to depend on what are called Capital Outlay projects that are partly funded by the State government. Many of EMU's buildings are dated and lacking in technology updates and overall appearance updates. Parking lots and roads are most likely funded by the parking department and a portion of the general fund, and I'm sure in their strategic planning, they rotate through each lot, and university owned road every so many years. And while I'm sure the University and Athletic Department would be more than happy to increase spending to the infrastructure (have you been in Rynearson its crumbling), you can't get blood from a Turnip, so unless you are going to donate to the road paving fund, you will have to wait until its time for that particular area to rotate into the paving schedule. Cheer up Bob, its Christmas.

Thank you. Merry Christmas to you. You are correct, it is not that serious, I was taken aback a little by the picture. All things in time.

emu steve · 12-17-2015 12:51 PM

I don't know what funding sources will be used for athletic facilities but I'd doubt they are the same ones which are part of the capital outlay projects for the rest of the university. (one thing I learned after a few decades in government and knowing the deputy budget officer for a federal department is that money goes into certain pots and can't be moved around easily. If donors donate 10M for football facilities that money can't be used to fill a pot hole across from Rynearson unless that parking lot is part of the athletic facilities budget. In the federal government if a department wants to take 10M set aside for IT training and use for IT equipment Congress has to re-program those funds.).

I suggest we all take a deep breath and wait for the plans to be announced.

I'm sure early 2016 we'll know what is going to be done and how it will be paid. I do not know if EMU can pledge revenues from CFP, MAC media rights, FB road game guarantees over a long period of time to borrow big bucks now. We'll have to wait and see.

I'm expecting to be pleasantly surprised. I hope to feel like a child who has been waiting and waiting for Christmas gifts and finds ones he really, really likes.

EagleTough · 12-17-2015 01:40 PM

(12-17-2015 11:14 AM)emdypo Wrote: I'm actually laughing out loud, is there anything Bob won't complain about? Poor road conditions, wow. You must be a hoot at the company Christmas party "This sucks, everything sucks, food sucks, drinks suck, life sucks, cry, cry, cry". How on earth does somebody become such a grinch. Cheer up Bob, its just a road, its just a football team, its just a basketball team. You really need to find some type of mood enhancement technique. I wonder who taught you that constant complaining ever solves a problem. Perhaps you should donate some money to EMU and earmark it for road and parking lot paving.

Exactly. I can GUARANTEE Bob has never donated a penny to his supposed alma mater.

emdypo · 12-17-2015 01:43 PM

Steve,

That is correct in terms of the buckets philosophy,dedicated funds cannot be utilized outside of their intended purpose; my point was that EMU's infrastructure as a whole in crumbling. And Yes, I highly doubt that there will be a capital outlay project for any parking/roads. As a student employee at EMU years ago I learned that the roads/parking lots were funded from revenue from the Parking hang tags that students purchase and parking citation revenue. That revenue is used to re-pave roads/parking lots on a rotating basis. My analogy about the capital outlays was to point out that EMU depends on the Capital projects where many Universities use private funding and their endowment. EMU does not have that luxury.

emu steve · 12-17-2015 03:27 PM

(12-17-2015 01:43 PM)emdypo Wrote: Steve,

That is correct in terms of the buckets philosophy,dedicated funds cannot be utilized outside of their intended purpose; my point was that EMU's infrastructure as a whole in crumbling. And Yes, I highly doubt that there will be a capital outlay project for any parking/roads. As a student employee at EMU years ago I learned that the roads/parking lots were funded from revenue from the Parking hang tags that students purchase and parking citation revenue. That revenue is used to re-pave roads/parking lots on a rotating basis. My analogy about the capital outlays was to point out that EMU depends on the Capital projects where many Universities use private funding and their endowment. EMU does not have that luxury.

I understand the bit about repaving roads and parking lots and those funds. I don't know how the university increases those funds.

As far as buildings I have a dear friend at EMU (retired faculty) who thinks the university campus is in pretty good shape. Mark Jefferson was done. Prey-Harrold was done. I think there is only one building in need of serious money. Is that Strong? (sorry I'm not on campus and don't visit many buildings).

Our campus, best I can tell, is pretty much in very good shape for a school in a state not doling out money freely.

Agree we don't have the huge endowment which other schools to get things done (looking at you, UofM), but all in all EMU manages well.

Again, I do NOT know the source of funds for athletic facilities improvements, but I'd assume donors, large and small, maybe naming rights, and maybe borrowing money using an ATHLETIC DEPT generated revenue stream as collateral (almost analogous to using parking tag revenues to fund re-paving of parking lots). Quite frankly football road game guarantees, CFP monies (received through the MAC), etc. are athletic department monies generated by football. It makes sense to invest some of those funds in FB-related facilities.

Again, I am perfectly wiling to wait a few months to hear the entire story of what, when and how (paid for).

holybovine · 12-17-2015 07:13 PM

Yep. Let's just sit back and wait for the State to bail us out.

Ugh. It sucks being that have nots.

HuronRob · 12-17-2015 09:01 PM

Still shaking my head at the number of people reading boob's garbage. He is a broken record of bovine excrement.

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Bob Wickersham · 12-17-2015 10:38 PM

(12-17-2015 09:01 PM)HuronRob Wrote: Still shaking my head at the number of people reading boob's garbage. He is a broken record of bovine excrement.

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You know less about sports than a 12 year old girl. Just go away and let the men discuss sports.