(11-28-2015 04:53 PM)FranklinTNTiger Wrote:  If we go to the LB, will definitely hurt the Memphis tourism business at year end..

(11-28-2015 04:49 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:47 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  From the horses mouth

The Liberty? How? Not enough teams in the $EC or Big XII bowl eligible?

If the LB is in play, the LB will make it happen.

Maybe, but it depends on the opponent. If it is a school that travels well, they pick up the slack in hotel rooms, but Memphis folks will party at events, bars, and restaurants like tourists and sell out the game.

(11-28-2015 05:11 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:54 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Need OU to win and KState to lose

That doesnt make sense. The Liberty takes the #4 team from the B12. If we are looking at the liberty, its because there are a shortage of SEC teams. And there will be, which is why the Independance is also looking elsewhere.

Obviously conferences can negotiate among their bowl tie ins.

The LB wouldn't want an Arky-T Tech rematch in the LB. Nor would the LB want WVU here two years in a row.

They might not want, but they might not have a choice of the conference doesn't have an alternate and the higher bowls don't want to switch.

Liberty Bowl had the Air Force for three or four years straight in the 90s.

9-3, 4th best AAC team. Pretty strong league.

Nice to be in demand but I do wish we had a better bowl line up........

(11-28-2015 05:09 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Erhardt and Graeter were in Fayetteville for the game yesterday and their quotes in our paper were pointing to selecting the Hogs....we'll see

The folks in the SEC office tell them who they get.

(11-28-2015 05:20 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:09 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Erhardt and Graeter were in Fayetteville for the game yesterday and their quotes in our paper were pointing to selecting the Hogs....we'll see

The folks in the SEC office tell them who they get.

it's a bit more collaborative

$EC has ten bowl eligible teams and Big XII has more than four.

So the Liberty Bowl is out unless the $EC gets two teams into the playoff.

(11-28-2015 05:25 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  $EC has ten bowl eligible teams and Big XII has more than four.

So the Liberty Bowl is out unless the $EC gets two teams into the playoff.

If the sec or Big12 is lacking a team for all the contract bowls , then they will probably listen to any bowl that would like to pass on taking a sec team this year... depending on what terms are offered.

(11-28-2015 05:15 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:11 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:54 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Need OU to win and KState to lose

That doesnt make sense. The Liberty takes the #4 team from the B12. If we are looking at the liberty, its because there are a shortage of SEC teams. And there will be, which is why the Independance is also looking elsewhere.

Obviously conferences can negotiate among their bowl tie ins.

The LB wouldn't want an Arky-T Tech rematch in the LB. Nor would the LB want WVU here two years in a row.

They might not want, but they might not have a choice of the conference doesn't have an alternate and the higher bowls don't want to switch.

Liberty Bowl had the Air Force for three or four years straight in the 90s.

Well that was because of an automatic tie in of only one of three schools.

Again, the B12 likely won't be able to fill their bowls. They have seven tie ins.

If the LB can actually get the Tigers I'm sure the LB will be happy to "let" some other bowl take their spot.

(11-28-2015 05:22 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:20 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:09 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Erhardt and Graeter were in Fayetteville for the game yesterday and their quotes in our paper were pointing to selecting the Hogs....we'll see

The folks in the SEC office tell them who they get.

it's a bit more collaborative

No much. That is why they ended up with A&M vs. WVU last year. Not close to what they wanted.

(11-28-2015 05:30 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:15 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:11 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:54 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Need OU to win and KState to lose

That doesnt make sense. The Liberty takes the #4 team from the B12. If we are looking at the liberty, its because there are a shortage of SEC teams. And there will be, which is why the Independance is also looking elsewhere.

Obviously conferences can negotiate among their bowl tie ins.

The LB wouldn't want an Arky-T Tech rematch in the LB. Nor would the LB want WVU here two years in a row.

They might not want, but they might not have a choice of the conference doesn't have an alternate and the higher bowls don't want to switch.

Liberty Bowl had the Air Force for three or four years straight in the 90s.

Well that was because of an automatic tie in of only one of three schools.

Again, the B12 likely won't be able to fill their bowls. They have seven tie ins.

If the LB can actually get the Tigers I'm sure the LB will be happy to "let" some other bowl take their spot.

Memphis vs UT?

(11-28-2015 05:28 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:25 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  $EC has ten bowl eligible teams and Big XII has more than four.

So the Liberty Bowl is out unless the $EC gets two teams into the playoff.

If the sec or Big12 is lacking a team for all the contract bowls , then they will probably listen to any bowl that would like to pass on taking a sec team this year... depending on what terms are offered.

Both have enough eligible teams though. So it's moot.

(11-28-2015 05:25 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  $EC has ten bowl eligible teams and Big XII has more than four.

So the Liberty Bowl is out unless the $EC gets two teams into the playoff.

If the situation remains as is, there will be a B12 team in the playoff and 2 in access bowl slots, they won't have enough to fill their other slots

(11-28-2015 05:11 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:54 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Need OU to win and KState to lose

That doesnt make sense. The Liberty takes the #4 team from the B12. If we are looking at the liberty, its because there are a shortage of SEC teams. And there will be, which is why the Independance is also looking elsewhere.

Obviously conferences can negotiate among their bowl tie ins.

The LB wouldn't want an Arky-T Tech rematch in the LB. Nor would the LB want WVU here two years in a row.

Ok, so I guess the caveat is that the LB would be using some type of contractual agreement where they are allowed to pass on certain B12 teams. That would make sense.

(11-28-2015 05:31 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:30 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:15 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:11 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  That doesnt make sense. The Liberty takes the #4 team from the B12. If we are looking at the liberty, its because there are a shortage of SEC teams. And there will be, which is why the Independance is also looking elsewhere.

Obviously conferences can negotiate among their bowl tie ins.

The LB wouldn't want an Arky-T Tech rematch in the LB. Nor would the LB want WVU here two years in a row.

They might not want, but they might not have a choice of the conference doesn't have an alternate and the higher bowls don't want to switch.

Liberty Bowl had the Air Force for three or four years straight in the 90s.

Well that was because of an automatic tie in of only one of three schools.

Again, the B12 likely won't be able to fill their bowls. They have seven tie ins.

If the LB can actually get the Tigers I'm sure the LB will be happy to "let" some other bowl take their spot.

Memphis vs UT?

Will never happen. UT will never voluntarily play us when we are any good. And as members of the SEC, they always hold the cards in these bowl negotiations.

(11-28-2015 05:33 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:28 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:25 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  $EC has ten bowl eligible teams and Big XII has more than four.

So the Liberty Bowl is out unless the $EC gets two teams into the playoff.

If the sec or Big12 is lacking a team for all the contract bowls , then they will probably listen to any bowl that would like to pass on taking a sec team this year... depending on what terms are offered.

Both have enough eligible teams though. So it's moot.

WRONG .... the Big12 has 7 bowl slots PLUS and non CFP big 6 bowls. They have 6 bowl eligible teams .. it is possible Texas will beat Baylor and be 5-7 and squeeze in on the 2015 exception but it is unlikely

(11-28-2015 05:25 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  $EC has ten bowl eligible teams and Big XII has more than four.

So the Liberty Bowl is out unless the $EC gets two teams into the playoff.

The SEC could get one team in the playoffs, and another in an at-large.

(11-28-2015 05:30 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:15 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:11 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:54 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Need OU to win and KState to lose

That doesnt make sense. The Liberty takes the #4 team from the B12. If we are looking at the liberty, its because there are a shortage of SEC teams. And there will be, which is why the Independance is also looking elsewhere.

Obviously conferences can negotiate among their bowl tie ins.

The LB wouldn't want an Arky-T Tech rematch in the LB. Nor would the LB want WVU here two years in a row.

They might not want, but they might not have a choice of the conference doesn't have an alternate and the higher bowls don't want to switch.

Liberty Bowl had the Air Force for three or four years straight in the 90s.

Well that was because of an automatic tie in of only one of three schools.

Again, the B12 likely won't be able to fill their bowls. They have seven tie ins.

If the LB can actually get the Tigers I'm sure the LB will be happy to "let" some other bowl take their spot.

The Liberty Bowl has a bigger payout, better time slot, better opponent, and better network than the Heart of Dallas bowl so the Liberty Bowl is getting a Big XII team this year.

(11-28-2015 05:36 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 05:11 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:54 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Need OU to win and KState to lose

That doesnt make sense. The Liberty takes the #4 team from the B12. If we are looking at the liberty, its because there are a shortage of SEC teams. And there will be, which is why the Independance is also looking elsewhere.

Obviously conferences can negotiate among their bowl tie ins.

The LB wouldn't want an Arky-T Tech rematch in the LB. Nor would the LB want WVU here two years in a row.

Ok, so I guess the caveat is that the LB would be using some type of contractual agreement where they are allowed to pass on certain B12 teams. That would make sense.

Liberty is tied in to #4 Big 12 team. That's Baylor right now. They will be playing in a bigger bowl.

Liberty doesn't have to take the 5th, 6th, 7th Big 12 team.

Even if OU loses, there's a chance the B12 snags an at-large.

Mem vs Ark