Exactly. The search continues to find the guy who can win more than 1. Shouldn't have been this hard over the past 10 years.

@AutulloAAS: Matt Campbell turns 36 tomorrow. Most of his career in front of him. He goes to ISU, loses, and may never be a HC again. Tough to win at ISU

Check ya later Campbell and good luck with that, ISU. I guess you're used to not playing for football championships so you've found the perfect coach!

On to the next one.

Hopefully one that can win when it counts.

(11-28-2015 04:02 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  The I State coach said earlier this year that it is very difficult to recruit there, especially since there isn't a close airport.

Post game yesterday: Comments on the job opening at Missouri
"Yeah, that’s easy… I have zero interest in anything other than this football team and being its head football coach. That has always been my stand. This is really important to me—doing it the right way and getting this program where it needs to be."

Best thing a coach can say is "no comment" on those questions. Otherwise they look like an idiot.

(11-28-2015 04:36 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:30 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  Campbell
0 outright MAC West Crowns
0 MACC Crowns

Agree, next man up...

Pinkel had 1 MAC Championship in 10 years.

If these rumors are true, that still one more than Campbell will have before he leaves.

I am a bit surprised that Campbell would choose Iowa State. Although they may not be quite the coach cemetery that Illinois has been for the last decade, they are not a prime springboard to bigger and better jobs either. You can bet that Texas will not stay down very long and then toss in perennial power Oklahoma and a couple of flavors of the day such as Baylor or Oklahoma State and you have a very competitive conference, of course winning conference championships is not the chief selling point on Campbell's resume anyway and at this point Iowa State may just be looking for someone to get teams playing a bit above .500 ball and bowl eligible on a fairly regular basis. Another concern is that while the conference plays good football, unlike the rest of the P5 conferences they are not at a truly stable mass and therefore will likely ultimately be forced to expand with less desirable members that will weaken the conference and perhaps have have their more successful members looking to move to other conferences such as was the case for Missouri and Texas A&M---although this is now much less likely given that most P5 are at a stable mass and are probably not looking toward further expansion.

I think that the positive non-football aspects of Campbell's program and his recruiting skills will be missed most of all but OTOH he also has some baggage that will also likely leave with him and that may also lessen the blow of his departure particularly if an appropriate replacement is hired.

In any event, I think that Campbell was the right hire when Beckman departed and was an improvement over Beckman from a number of perspectives so if he does leave, then I wish him and the staff well. Besides maybe we can finally hire somebody that can figure out how to beat NIU.

It's true what they say about "statistics". Some of Campbell's are undeniable, and he did have us in the top 25.

At the same time, for his UT career, his November record is now 8-7, but only 4-4 at home. That's why we haven't gone to a MACC game.

I can understand losing to EITHER Northern OR Western, even at home...but we only needed to win one of those two and the mood in Rocket Nation would be much different.

(11-28-2015 04:54 PM)T-Town Wrote:  I am a bit surprised that Campbell would choose Iowa State. Although they may not be quite the coach cemetery that Illinois has been for the last decade, they are not a prime springboard to bigger and better jobs either. You can bet that Texas will not stay down very long and then toss in perennial power Oklahoma and a couple of flavors of the day such as Baylor or Oklahoma State and you have a very competitive conference, of course winning conference championships is not the chief selling point on Campbell's resume anyway and at this point Iowa State may just be looking for someone to get teams playing a bit above .500 ball and bowl eligible on a fairly regular basis. Another concern is that while the conference plays good football, unlike the rest of the P5 conferences they are not at a truly stable mass and therefore will likely ultimately be forced to expand with less desirable members that will weaken the conference and perhaps have have their more successful members looking to move to other conferences such as was the case for Missouri and Texas A&M---although this is now much less likely given that most P5 are at a stable mass and are probably not looking toward further expansion.

I think that the positive non-football aspects of Campbell's program and his recruiting skills will be missed most of all but OTOH he also has some baggage that will also likely leave with him and that may also lessen the blow of his departure particularly if an appropriate replacement is hired.

In any event, I think that Campbell was the right hire when Beckman departed and was an improvement over Beckman in a number of regards so if he does leave, then I wish him and the staff well. Besides maybe we can finally hire somebody that can figure out how to beat NIU.

The more I think about it, it actually might make more sense for Campbell. More money, obviously. And, less pressure. I mean, a bowl game would make that fan base do handsprings! We want a MAC championship--a bowl game isn't really enough anymore; as you've described very well above, I don't think anyone really expects Iowa State to compete for a Big 12 championship, unless a few more schools leave the Big 12 and go to the SEC or Big 10-15-20-whatever. Staying here, he'd have to be able to explain why we can't win a MAC championship with some of the best recruiting classes in the conference. Going to ISU, if he wins 6 or 7 games--and with the right non-conference schedule, he could certainly do that--they will rename Ames, Iowa in his honor.

(11-28-2015 04:45 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:36 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:30 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  Campbell
0 outright MAC West Crowns
0 MACC Crowns

Agree, next man up...

Pinkel had 1 MAC Championship in 10 years.

If these rumors are true, that still one more than Campbell will have before he leaves.

And how many years did Pinkel have? Come back to reality.

@AutulloAAS I am told Toledo is prepared to Iowa State target Matt Campbell the highest paid coach in the MAC.

(11-28-2015 05:05 PM)utpotts Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:45 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:36 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:30 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  Campbell
0 outright MAC West Crowns
0 MACC Crowns

Agree, next man up...

Pinkel had 1 MAC Championship in 10 years.

If these rumors are true, that still one more than Campbell will have before he leaves.

And how many years did Pinkel have? Come back to reality.

Ten (10) years, like it says above. That would have given Campbell six (6) more years to match or beat Pinkel in that category.

Dude's apparently gone, move on...

Iowa state has some good young talent..Warren looks like he can be a really good RB and is only a freshman and Lanning has been the QB Texas game is a sophomore.

That said not sure MC is the best fit there and I think he could get a better offer(Mizzou?)

http://footballscoop.com/news/report-iow...-campbell/

http://amestrib.com/sports/football-isu-...s-campbell

Got nothing against Campbell as a person. Decent record, players have stayed out of trouble, done well in the classroom. Never achieved the big goals so that's his real legacy here at Toledo. He has apparently made the decision to move on to what he considers a bigger, better job. Good luck, however if we play ISU whlie he's their HC I hope we smoke them.

Ryan Autullo @AutulloAAS

I am told Toledo is prepared to make Iowa State target Matt Campbell the highest paid coach in the MAC.
6:42 PM - 28 Nov 2015

Iowa State has reportedly cancelled all other interviews.

(11-28-2015 05:05 PM)utpotts Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:45 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:36 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 04:30 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  Campbell
0 outright MAC West Crowns
0 MACC Crowns

Agree, next man up...

Pinkel had 1 MAC Championship in 10 years.

If these rumors are true, that still one more than Campbell will have before he leaves.

And how many years did Pinkel have? Come back to reality.

Thanks to the MAC Pinkel had to play Marshall for the MACC AT MARSHALL twice in a row. I think Marshall would have probably won the 1997 game even on a neutral field (that is the year Toledo started 8-0 and ranked 18th in the AP poll before totally collapsing and losing 3 of their last four games); however, I have always believed that having to play the MACC at Marshall cost Pinkel the 1998 MACC and Amstutz the 2002 MACC. Incidentally I also give Pinkel a lot of the credit for Amstutz's first MACC in 2001----at that time it was still essentially Pinkel's team.

Generally speaking I would say that Campbell's teams were more talented than Pinkel's teams but Pinkel's teams were more disciplined (on the field) and usually better coached.

Know what, let him go !! Toledo was on their way up before MC, and will do fine, if and when he leaves. There will be no shortage of quality candidates for the HC job at the University of Toledo.

IMO, the Toledo job is still the premier job in the MAC ( taking in consideration - the facilities, fan base, and history). I do appreciate the time spent, and what Campbell has done for Rocket football.

MAC reality check: your moderately successful coach moves on to a crappy Power 5 job, and the fan-base is butt-hurt.

Check back in 12 months for more of the same.

Toledo will step up with the checkbook to see if Campbell wants to build on his success here.