Absolutely no defense being played in the 2H. Makes the Owls tackling look good.

48-45 TT less than 2 minutes to play. Tech has the ball after failed onside kick.

Agreed, tackling was abysmal for both sides, but man can that Chris Williams kid run the ball for Texas - over 250 yards. Where has he been all season for them?

(11-26-2015 11:34 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  Agreed, tackling was abysmal for both sides, but man can that Chris Williams kid run the ball for Texas - over 250 yards. Where has he been all season for them?

I think you mean Chris Warren III. 276 yards tonight. I believe they said he had 80 something coming into this game.

I watched the whole game and it was a fun one

There seems to be some similarity between Charlie and Coach Bailiff. Down cycle for Charlie, too. A ton of injuries. A ton of young players. And the team performing way below expectations. Texas made a game of it, but I thought they looked totally unprepared in the first half. Stupid penalties. Ineffective offense. And, in my opinion, Charlie... Or his OC made a bone headed call to throw the ball in the 4th Q on 4th and 7.... when Texas had been beating Techs brains out with the running game.
At any rate, it'll be interesting to see if the UT Old Guard will put up with a poorly prepared team and its coach....or let him stay and develop his young talent. Sounds familiar.

(11-27-2015 12:09 AM)greyowl72 Wrote:  At any rate, it'll be interesting to see if the UT Old Guard will put up with a poorly prepared team and its coach....or let him stay and develop his young talent. Sounds familiar.

Not really. One coach is in his second year, the other is in his ninth year and still has poorly prepared teams.

Yep. Kliff has to make changes on D. They are really bad. TT is only team in country to have now given up > 70 TD's this year after last night which seems pretty hard to do when you have a few cupcake OOC games plus Kansas on the schedule. Even Rice with its porous D and numerous blow-out losses has only given up 58.

(11-27-2015 03:33 AM)WIowl Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 12:09 AM)greyowl72 Wrote:  At any rate, it'll be interesting to see if the UT Old Guard will put up with a poorly prepared team and its coach....or let him stay and develop his young talent. Sounds familiar.

Not really. One coach is in his second year, the other is in his ninth year and still has poorly prepared teams.

Thank you!!!

I think it will be interesting to watch and see if we have a "market panic" among the really top jobs now open and those that might open (LSU & UT for two of them). I can see the fear in the eyes of big UT money if they want Mensa (or some other top candidate) of "do we want to miss out on a potential Darrell Royal (well you now how Sips can spin a tale)" if we keep Charlie. Should be an interesting couple of weeks...definitely a seller's market for folks like Mensa.

(11-26-2015 11:37 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(11-26-2015 11:34 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  Agreed, tackling was abysmal for both sides, but man can that Chris Williams kid run the ball for Texas - over 250 yards. Where has he been all season for them?

I think you mean Chris Warren III. 276 yards tonight. I believe they said he had 80 something coming into this game.

You're absolutely correct - I knew something seemed a little off when I typed his last name. I literally never saw him make a run that didn't involve him breaking at least one tackle.

(11-27-2015 08:21 AM)owl40 Wrote:  Yep. Kliff has to make changes on D. They are really bad. TT is only team in country to have now given up > 70 TD's this year after last night which seems pretty hard to do when you have a few cupcake OOC games plus Kansas on the schedule. Even Rice with its porous D and numerous blow-out losses has only given up 58.

Probably related somewhat to how fast their offense scores, giving the other team lots of opportunities. Kind of like TOP.

(11-27-2015 10:31 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 08:21 AM)owl40 Wrote:  Yep. Kliff has to make changes on D. They are really bad. TT is only team in country to have now given up > 70 TD's this year after last night which seems pretty hard to do when you have a few cupcake OOC games plus Kansas on the schedule. Even Rice with its porous D and numerous blow-out losses has only given up 58.

Probably related somewhat to how fast their offense scores, giving the other team lots of opportunities. Kind of like TOP.

Their defense is still pretty brutal.

(11-27-2015 10:53 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 10:31 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 08:21 AM)owl40 Wrote:  Yep. Kliff has to make changes on D. They are really bad. TT is only team in country to have now given up > 70 TD's this year after last night which seems pretty hard to do when you have a few cupcake OOC games plus Kansas on the schedule. Even Rice with its porous D and numerous blow-out losses has only given up 58.

Probably related somewhat to how fast their offense scores, giving the other team lots of opportunities. Kind of like TOP.

Their defense is still pretty brutal.

No argument here. But when you have a quick strike offense, it gives lots of possessions and lots of time to the opposing offense to exploit your brutal defense. I wonder if there are some talented players riding the offensive bench who could help them on defense?

(11-27-2015 10:31 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 08:21 AM)owl40 Wrote:  Yep. Kliff has to make changes on D. They are really bad. TT is only team in country to have now given up > 70 TD's this year after last night which seems pretty hard to do when you have a few cupcake OOC games plus Kansas on the schedule. Even Rice with its porous D and numerous blow-out losses has only given up 58.

Probably related somewhat to how fast their offense scores, giving the other team lots of opportunities. Kind of like TOP.

Agreed. That's why I think a points-per-possession is definitely a more accurate measure of scoring defense, which would certainly bring them up and lower schools like Wisconsin and Alabama in the scoring defense rankings.

(11-27-2015 10:58 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 10:53 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 10:31 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 08:21 AM)owl40 Wrote:  Yep. Kliff has to make changes on D. They are really bad. TT is only team in country to have now given up > 70 TD's this year after last night which seems pretty hard to do when you have a few cupcake OOC games plus Kansas on the schedule. Even Rice with its porous D and numerous blow-out losses has only given up 58.

Probably related somewhat to how fast their offense scores, giving the other team lots of opportunities. Kind of like TOP.

Their defense is still pretty brutal.

No argument here. But when you have a quick strike offense, it gives lots of possessions and lots of time to the opposing offense to exploit your brutal defense. I wonder if there are some talented players riding the offensive bench who could help them on defense?

I'm quite certain there are. Probably enough to improve TT's defense enough to have won a couple more games--say, TCU and WV. But Kliff's philosophy is to outscore you, not to play defense.

That's why I'm impressed with the job Alex Grinch has done at Wazzu. He has them playing respectable defense, not great but respectable, with the Pirate as head coach.

(11-27-2015 08:48 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  I think it will be interesting to watch and see if we have a "market panic" among the really top jobs now open and those that might open (LSU & UT for two of them). I can see the fear in the eyes of big UT money if they want Mensa (or some other top candidate) of "do we want to miss out on a potential Darrell Royal (well you now how Sips can spin a tale)" if we keep Charlie. Should be an interesting couple of weeks...definitely a seller's market for folks like Mensa.

Agree. It will also be interesting to see what happens with the AAC openings (UCF, maybe Tulane, Houston, and Memphis). Are they strong enough to pull the top coaches away from C-USA, MAC, and the Sunbelt?

(11-27-2015 08:41 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 03:33 AM)WIowl Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 12:09 AM)greyowl72 Wrote:  At any rate, it'll be interesting to see if the UT Old Guard will put up with a poorly prepared team and its coach....or let him stay and develop his young talent. Sounds familiar.

Not really. One coach is in his second year, the other is in his ninth year and still has poorly prepared teams.

Thank you!!!

The interesting point for me... which I failed to make clear, I guess... Is that UT may very well pull the plug on a coach wthl poor preparation after two seasons. Where as other schools are willing to take a longer view. Like maybe 9 or 10 seasons.

(11-27-2015 12:27 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 08:41 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 03:33 AM)WIowl Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 12:09 AM)greyowl72 Wrote:  At any rate, it'll be interesting to see if the UT Old Guard will put up with a poorly prepared team and its coach....or let him stay and develop his young talent. Sounds familiar.

Not really. One coach is in his second year, the other is in his ninth year and still has poorly prepared teams.

Thank you!!!

The interesting point for me... which I failed to make clear, I guess... Is that UT may very well pull the plug on a coach wthl poor preparation after two seasons. Where as other schools are willing to take a longer view. Like maybe 9 or 10 seasons.

Sadly, at least for us, is that UT has no financial obstacles to making quick decisions. I also suspect that Strong is vulnerable since he is a Patterson hire. In the end, however, I don't give a rats a$$ about UT athletics.

(11-27-2015 12:09 AM)greyowl72 Wrote:  I watched the whole game and it was a fun one

There seems to be some similarity between Charlie and Coach Bailiff. Down cycle for Charlie, too. A ton of injuries. A ton of young players. And the team performing way below expectations. Texas made a game of it, but I thought they looked totally unprepared in the first half. Stupid penalties. Ineffective offense. And, in my opinion, Charlie... Or his OC made a bone headed call to throw the ball in the 4th Q on 4th and 7.... when Texas had been beating Techs brains out with the running game.
At any rate, it'll be interesting to see if the UT Old Guard will put up with a poorly prepared team and its coach....or let him stay and develop his young talent. Sounds familiar.

I am more concerned about the similarities between Bailiff and Mack Brown, who Bailiff reached out to as a mentor when he started at Texas St. and with whom he shares some coaching attributes. Because Brown left a huge mess of that program at the end when the recruiting dried up, and our talent level seems to be following a similar path to me right now...