(11-25-2015 09:04 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  ... for Memphis, I think the first priority is finding a coach who is committed to staying for the long haul and and who is capable of building a winning tradition...even more so than getting into a P5 conference. And in this day and age, finding a coach who's willing to do that is proving to be more and more difficult without being in a P5 conference.........

We probably have such a man on the staff right now, but for some reason he apparently isn't even being considered. Perhaps because our leaders are afraid that giving him a chance will not excite our "grass-is-greener-on-the-other-side" fanbase enough. Dickey, who was voted national offensive coordinator of the year after the Ole Miss win has D-1 head coach experience, is in charge of local recruiting, is a great speaker, would preserve continuity and would likely stay long-term (his wife is from Trenton, TN). I'm not saying he is necessarily the right man, but I certainly hope he is given a serious look. I think we need to keep him here in some capacity, one way or the other.

(11-27-2015 11:06 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 09:04 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  ... for Memphis, I think the first priority is finding a coach who is committed to staying for the long haul and and who is capable of building a winning tradition...even more so than getting into a P5 conference. And in this day and age, finding a coach who's willing to do that is proving to be more and more difficult without being in a P5 conference.........

We probably have such a man on the staff right now, but for some reason he isn't even being considered. Perhaps because our leaders are afraid that giving him a chance will not excite our "grass-is-greener-on-the-other-side" fanbase enough. Dickey, who was voted national offensive coordinator of the year after the Ole Miss win has D-1 head coach experience, is in charge of local recruiting, is a great speaker, would preserve continuity and would likely stay long-term (his wife is from Trenton, TN).

blame the millenials

they want a high energy hot candidate, not a retread

(11-27-2015 11:10 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 11:06 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 09:04 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  ... for Memphis, I think the first priority is finding a coach who is committed to staying for the long haul and and who is capable of building a winning tradition...even more so than getting into a P5 conference. And in this day and age, finding a coach who's willing to do that is proving to be more and more difficult without being in a P5 conference.........

We probably have such a man on the staff right now, but for some reason he isn't even being considered. Perhaps because our leaders are afraid that giving him a chance will not excite our "grass-is-greener-on-the-other-side" fanbase enough. Dickey, who was voted national offensive coordinator of the year after the Ole Miss win has D-1 head coach experience, is in charge of local recruiting, is a great speaker, would preserve continuity and would likely stay long-term (his wife is from Trenton, TN).

blame the millenials

they want a high energy hot candidate, not a retread

I agree. Experience, continuity and likely long-term commitment means nothing to them. Same way with tradition and class.

(11-25-2015 08:38 AM)SmokyTiger Wrote:  So what's the longest any successful coach at Memphis would be expected to stay?
And why can't we be like TCU?

Common sense says that not being in a P5 league is the #1 with a bullet. Next is our lack of success. Both can change but not overnight. In today's world if you have a coach for seven or eights years you have done well. Quite frankly, the four that we got were productive. We needed to be respectable and we made us a winner.

(11-25-2015 08:50 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  Sadly," a stepping stone " is an improvement for our program.
In the mid 70s, our HC Pancoast accepted a HC job at Vandy. That is the only example of a Memphis HC being lured away to another HC position.

Looking at it from a glass half full perspective, we should be happy that our HC and program have a reached a level of success where other programs have an interest in our HC.

He later said it was the worst mistake as a coach he ever made.

(11-26-2015 09:48 AM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  There are three factors that we control that would make this a destination job and not a stepping stone. The three factors are in no particular order: attendance, facilities and salaries. As we step up to the plate in these three areas, the job becomes attractive indeed.

Affiliation in a power conference is not a thing we control directly.

In terms of coachs, we need another coach that continues to follow the recruiting model of TCU, that of finding and developing talent that may not be the highest rated by the recruiting services.

All that would improve our position...but...would not make this job ever a place to stop if a Oklahoma is calling.

No shame in that.

Right...

Washington to USC
Tennessee to USC
Michigan State to LSU
Iowa State to Auburn
North Carolina to Texas
Louise to Texas
Pitt to Arizona State
WV to Michigan
Vandy to Penn State
Bears to Auburn
Oregon State to Nebraska
Wisconsin to Arkansas...although this one still puzzles me
Wisconsin to Oregon State...had to be personal
Cindy to Notre Dame
Cindy to Tennessee

...all in the last fifteen years or so...

(11-27-2015 01:00 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Right...

Washington to USC
Tennessee to USC
Michigan State to LSU
Iowa State to Auburn
North Carolina to Texas
Louise to Texas
Pitt to Arizona State
WV to Michigan
Vandy to Penn State
Bears to Auburn
Oregon State to Nebraska
Wisconsin to Arkansas...although this one still puzzles me
Wisconsin to Oregon State...had to be personal
Cindy to Notre Dame
Cindy to Tennessee

...all in the last fifteen years or so...

Democrats-Family Values Like Barney Frank

(11-27-2015 11:52 AM)blutgr39 Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 08:50 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  Sadly," a stepping stone " is an improvement for our program.
In the mid 70s, our HC Pancoast accepted a HC job at Vandy. That is the only example of a Memphis HC being lured away to another HC position.

Looking at it from a glass half full perspective, we should be happy that our HC and program have a reached a level of success where other programs have an interest in our HC.

He later said it was the worst mistake as a coach he ever made.

What was he thinking? That he would turn vandy into a power

Lol

Menphis beat Vandy 35-14 his last year at Vandy. Talk about a wtf was I thinking moment

I thought graduating from coaches graveyard to stepping stone was a step up.

(11-27-2015 02:01 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  I thought graduating from coaches graveyard to stepping stone was a step up.

only a few self loathing fans and 2 local media members thought that way, whats cool is that both have now seen the light... mostly seen the light...

(11-27-2015 11:10 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 11:06 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 09:04 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  ... for Memphis, I think the first priority is finding a coach who is committed to staying for the long haul and and who is capable of building a winning tradition...even more so than getting into a P5 conference. And in this day and age, finding a coach who's willing to do that is proving to be more and more difficult without being in a P5 conference.........

We probably have such a man on the staff right now, but for some reason he isn't even being considered. Perhaps because our leaders are afraid that giving him a chance will not excite our "grass-is-greener-on-the-other-side" fanbase enough. Dickey, who was voted national offensive coordinator of the year after the Ole Miss win has D-1 head coach experience, is in charge of local recruiting, is a great speaker, would preserve continuity and would likely stay long-term (his wife is from Trenton, TN).

blame the millenials

they want a high energy hot candidate, not a retread

Thank the millenials, you mean?

I mean, no one in a University or AD setting listens to MILLENIALS, but uhh, in what world do you live in where you don't want a high energy candidate instead of a retread?

(11-27-2015 02:12 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 02:01 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  I thought graduating from coaches graveyard to stepping stone was a step up.

only a few self loathing fans and 2 local media members thought that way, whats cool is that both have now seen the light... mostly seen the light...

Lol..now that being said..do we insist on a larger buyout with our new coach? Of course that can work against you also.

(11-27-2015 02:27 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 11:10 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 11:06 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 09:04 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  ... for Memphis, I think the first priority is finding a coach who is committed to staying for the long haul and and who is capable of building a winning tradition...even more so than getting into a P5 conference. And in this day and age, finding a coach who's willing to do that is proving to be more and more difficult without being in a P5 conference.........

We probably have such a man on the staff right now, but for some reason he isn't even being considered. Perhaps because our leaders are afraid that giving him a chance will not excite our "grass-is-greener-on-the-other-side" fanbase enough. Dickey, who was voted national offensive coordinator of the year after the Ole Miss win has D-1 head coach experience, is in charge of local recruiting, is a great speaker, would preserve continuity and would likely stay long-term (his wife is from Trenton, TN).

blame the millenials

they want a high energy hot candidate, not a retread

Thank the millenials, you mean?

I mean, no one in a University or AD setting listens to MILLENIALS, but uhh, in what world do you live in where you don't want a high energy candidate instead of a retread?

Millineals are too busy smoking pot and playing Xbox in their safe space. They have no voice

(11-27-2015 01:11 PM)tiger68 Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 01:00 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Right...

Washington to USC
Tennessee to USC
Michigan State to LSU
Iowa State to Auburn
North Carolina to Texas
Louise to Texas
Pitt to Arizona State
WV to Michigan
Vandy to Penn State
Bears to Auburn
Oregon State to Nebraska
Wisconsin to Arkansas...although this one still puzzles me
Wisconsin to Oregon State...had to be personal
Cindy to Notre Dame
Cindy to Tennessee

...all in the last fifteen years or so...

Democrats-Family Values Like Barney Frank

Get a grip.

You are better off if you do not get distracted by signatures, and instead focus on posts.

But, since you felt compelled to show your ass out of nowhere, there are ways you can get help for your homophobic thoughts. Barney Frank is gay. And...? ...welcome to the close minded hate club.

Signature to short to include the Vitters.

We have not had enough good coaches to be determined to be a so-called stepping stone position. As a poster stated we’ve only had 1 coach to leave for a better position. It’s obvious Justin never unpacked his bags when he arrived and his refusal to accept a max contract was a red flag.

Just keep maintaining the program at a high level with good coaches, players, facilities (ect), and the remainder will work itself out.

It would be interesting to see a list of schools that have never had a coach leave for a "better" job.

(11-27-2015 04:00 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 02:27 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 11:10 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 11:06 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 09:04 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  ... for Memphis, I think the first priority is finding a coach who is committed to staying for the long haul and and who is capable of building a winning tradition...even more so than getting into a P5 conference. And in this day and age, finding a coach who's willing to do that is proving to be more and more difficult without being in a P5 conference.........

We probably have such a man on the staff right now, but for some reason he isn't even being considered. Perhaps because our leaders are afraid that giving him a chance will not excite our "grass-is-greener-on-the-other-side" fanbase enough. Dickey, who was voted national offensive coordinator of the year after the Ole Miss win has D-1 head coach experience, is in charge of local recruiting, is a great speaker, would preserve continuity and would likely stay long-term (his wife is from Trenton, TN).

blame the millenials

they want a high energy hot candidate, not a retread

Thank the millenials, you mean?

I mean, no one in a University or AD setting listens to MILLENIALS, but uhh, in what world do you live in where you don't want a high energy candidate instead of a retread?

Millineals are too busy smoking pot and playing Xbox in their safe space. They have no voice

Sure they do. "Dad, can I borrow a couple of hundred bucks?"

(11-27-2015 04:05 PM)Mimi Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 01:11 PM)tiger68 Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 01:00 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Right...

Washington to USC
Tennessee to USC
Michigan State to LSU
Iowa State to Auburn
North Carolina to Texas
Louise to Texas
Pitt to Arizona State
WV to Michigan
Vandy to Penn State
Bears to Auburn
Oregon State to Nebraska
Wisconsin to Arkansas...although this one still puzzles me
Wisconsin to Oregon State...had to be personal
Cindy to Notre Dame
Cindy to Tennessee

...all in the last fifteen years or so...

Democrats-Family Values Like Barney Frank

Get a grip.

You are better off if you do not get distracted by signatures, and instead focus on posts.

But, since you felt compelled to show your ass out of nowhere, there are ways you can get help for your homophobic thoughts. Barney Frank is gay. And...? ...welcome to the close minded hate club.

Signature to short to include the Vitters.

Creepy. Poster is creepy.

(11-27-2015 01:00 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Right...

Washington to USC
Tennessee to USC
Michigan State to LSU
Iowa State to Auburn
North Carolina to Texas
Louise to Texas
Pitt to Arizona State
WV to Michigan
Vandy to Penn State
Bears to Auburn
Oregon State to Nebraska
Wisconsin to Arkansas...although this one still puzzles me
Wisconsin to Oregon State...had to be personal
Cindy to Notre Dame
Cindy to Tennessee

...all in the last fifteen years or so...

And the mighty Crimson Tide to TAMU, albeit more than 15 years ago. Also, agree about the Wisconson to Piggies mystery. From what I've read Barry Alvarez still looms large over the program as AD. Perhaps Wisconson coaches don't like being second-guessed by the former coach?