(11-23-2015 11:54 PM)spanky Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 11:48 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Now that I think about it, there is zero doubt in my mind that OU finishes ahead of ND if they beat OSU. Their schedule would be so much harder.

Was it OSU's most recent performance that swayed you?

I think if they go back to back beating TCU and Oklahoma State, I'm just not sure how you put Notre Dame in over them. Something needs to be said about playing a very tough conference schedule instead of ending your year against Boston College and the best of the worst in the Pac 12.

Let's keep in mind that Notre Dame's biggest win is Navy. That being said, if they end up with 1 loss, there is not a doubt in my mind the committee will choose them to make the playoff. I'm just saying... yes they had a close loss to Clemson, but they really don't have a signature win.

(11-24-2015 10:18 AM)NIUslumo Wrote:  Let's keep in mind that Notre Dame's biggest win is Navy. That being said, if they end up with 1 loss, there is not a doubt in my mind the committee will choose them to make the playoff. I'm just saying... yes they had a close loss to Clemson, but they really don't have a signature win.

There is a rule in the CFB that says that an independent must be indisputably better than the conference champions. If Oklahoma wins the big 12, then you can't put Notre Dame above them based on that criteria. Brad Edwards doesn't even have Notre Dame in his top 6 right now for that very reason.

(11-24-2015 11:06 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 10:18 AM)NIUslumo Wrote:  Let's keep in mind that Notre Dame's biggest win is Navy. That being said, if they end up with 1 loss, there is not a doubt in my mind the committee will choose them to make the playoff. I'm just saying... yes they had a close loss to Clemson, but they really don't have a signature win.

There is a rule in the CFB that says that an independent must be indisputably better than the conference champions. If Oklahoma wins the big 12, then you can't put Notre Dame above them based on that criteria. Brad Edwards doesn't even have Notre Dame in his top 6 right now for that very reason.

Even if the conference champion didn't play a 13th game?

(11-24-2015 11:15 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:06 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 10:18 AM)NIUslumo Wrote:  Let's keep in mind that Notre Dame's biggest win is Navy. That being said, if they end up with 1 loss, there is not a doubt in my mind the committee will choose them to make the playoff. I'm just saying... yes they had a close loss to Clemson, but they really don't have a signature win.

There is a rule in the CFB that says that an independent must be indisputably better than the conference champions. If Oklahoma wins the big 12, then you can't put Notre Dame above them based on that criteria. Brad Edwards doesn't even have Notre Dame in his top 6 right now for that very reason.

Even if the conference champion didn't play a 13th game?

It's just stated as "conference champion." clearly, winning a conference means more to the committee than being a good independent. Well, at least that's what they say.

(11-24-2015 11:06 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 10:18 AM)NIUslumo Wrote:  Let's keep in mind that Notre Dame's biggest win is Navy. That being said, if they end up with 1 loss, there is not a doubt in my mind the committee will choose them to make the playoff. I'm just saying... yes they had a close loss to Clemson, but they really don't have a signature win.

There is a rule in the CFB that says that an independent must be indisputably better than the conference champions. If Oklahoma wins the big 12, then you can't put Notre Dame above them based on that criteria. Brad Edwards doesn't even have Notre Dame in his top 6 right now for that very reason.

Brad Edwards opinion doesn't matter, he's not part of the committee.

(11-24-2015 02:08 PM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:06 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 10:18 AM)NIUslumo Wrote:  Let's keep in mind that Notre Dame's biggest win is Navy. That being said, if they end up with 1 loss, there is not a doubt in my mind the committee will choose them to make the playoff. I'm just saying... yes they had a close loss to Clemson, but they really don't have a signature win.

There is a rule in the CFB that says that an independent must be indisputably better than the conference champions. If Oklahoma wins the big 12, then you can't put Notre Dame above them based on that criteria. Brad Edwards doesn't even have Notre Dame in his top 6 right now for that very reason.

Brad Edwards opinion doesn't matter, he's not part of the committee.

Haha I understand that, I was just giving you an example. Also, every single bowl projection i've looked at today (5 of them) have not had ND in the playoff. They've all gone with OU. So clearly there has to be something there.

Notre Dame's not going to make the CFP barring Iowa/MSU getting upset by Nebraska/Penn State.

(11-24-2015 07:16 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Notre Dame's not going to make the CFP barring Iowa/MSU getting upset by Nebraska/Penn State.

Oklahoma losing to Oklahoma State would probably do it, too.

(11-24-2015 07:21 PM)UIHuskie Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 07:16 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Notre Dame's not going to make the CFP barring Iowa/MSU getting upset by Nebraska/Penn State.

Oklahoma losing to Oklahoma State would probably do it, too.

Then Oklahoma state would jump ND.

(11-24-2015 10:18 AM)NIUslumo Wrote:  Let's keep in mind that Notre Dame's biggest win is Navy.

I will keep this in mind if we are also keeping in mind Iowa biggest wins.
ND's top 3 wins are better than Iowa's.

This is insane. ND hammered Texas, Texas beat OU. End of story. Don't overthink it.

(11-24-2015 07:22 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 07:21 PM)UIHuskie Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 07:16 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Notre Dame's not going to make the CFP barring Iowa/MSU getting upset by Nebraska/Penn State.

Oklahoma losing to Oklahoma State would probably do it, too.

Then Oklahoma state would jump ND.

I agree, If OSU beats OU then they would have beat a #5 and #3 in the last 3 weeks, can ND say that?

(11-25-2015 01:35 PM)KennyKowboy Wrote:  I agree, If OSU beats OU then they would have beat a #5 and #3 in the last 3 weeks, can ND say that?

I don't see Oklahoma State making up 5 spots the same week Notre Dame theoretically wins on the road against a Top 10 team. Also, to have any chance at doing that before the playoff teams are selected, Baylor needs to lose at TCU this weekend or next week against Texas. There's a pretty reasonable chance Baylor will lose one of those games, but they're not going to move Oklahoma State ahead of Baylor if Baylor wins out.

(11-25-2015 01:54 PM)UIHuskie Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 01:35 PM)KennyKowboy Wrote:  I agree, If OSU beats OU then they would have beat a #5 and #3 in the last 3 weeks, can ND say that?

I don't see Oklahoma State making up 5 spots the same week Notre Dame theoretically wins on the road against a Top 10 team. Also, to have any chance at doing that before the playoff teams are selected, Baylor needs to lose at TCU this weekend or next week against Texas. There's a pretty reasonable chance Baylor will lose one of those games, but they're not going to move Oklahoma State ahead of Baylor if Baylor wins out.

I agree, I seen how the committee didn't put OSU in the top four after beating #5 TCU by 20, but OU beats #18 TCU by 1 and they get shot up to #3? Crazy.