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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
I can get why Mullen would be ready to leave, but Maryland is gonna have real trouble finishing higher than 4th in their own division anytime in the near future having to deal with OSU, MSU and UM. It might be the only place he could go that would be even less likely to win big at.
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11-25-2015 12:13 AM |
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
So he gets out of a division with Alabama, Auburn, and LSU and goes to one with OSU, MSU and Michigan. Welp.
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11-25-2015 12:39 AM |
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
(11-24-2015 10:25 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: (11-24-2015 10:10 PM)Wedge Wrote: (11-24-2015 08:57 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: He's a great coach and Miss. State will have a hard time holding on to him long term.
I would think Maryland would be a lateral at best. But, there are plenty of other reasons he may choose to make that move.
You mean, Mr. Under Armour might give him plenty of rea$on$ to make that move...
This would be the hook.
There are much worse hooks to have. Maryland has a high ceiling, but the next coach has to be willing to start in the basement. That's not for everybody.
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Zombiewoof
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
The obligatory "I love the job I have":
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sport.../76271802/
I get all of the reasons he might leave, but here's the problem I have. Mullen is the 16th highest paid head coach in the country for 2015. Of the 15 that were paid more, seven were also in the SEC. Of the eight remaining coaches, four are Big 10 coaches -- former NFL head coach Jim Harbaugh, defending national champion Urban Meyer, longtime Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz and Penn State's James Franklin. To me, the only one that doesn't fit there is Franklin, who more than doubled his previous salary at Vanderbilt. The other three are 2014 national champion Jimbo Fisher, Charlie Strong of deep pocketed Texas and Baylor's Art Briles, who has bumped his salary from less than a million in 2009 to $4.3 million this year.
I say all of that to make a couple of points. Mullen doesn't have the skins on the wall of a Fisher, Meyer, Ferentz or even Harbaugh. Maryland doesn't have the deep pockets of a Texas or a Penn State. So unless Maryland catches a windfall of cash and believes Mullen is a national championship level coach, I don't see it happening. To entice him to move, you would think he'd have to get some kind of a bump in salary. I just can't believe that a program that had been in some pretty dire financial trouble recently and just had to pay a hefty sum to the ACC can come up with the money necessary to get Mullen to come. It's a stretch for me to think that they would be paying Edsall around half what Mullen makes at Mississippi State, but now Maryland will pony up and make Mullen a top 7-10 paid coach. Maybe for a championship head coach like Les Miles, but not for Dan Mullen.
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11-25-2015 12:55 AM |
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
(11-25-2015 12:55 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote: The obligatory "I love the job I have":
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sport.../76271802/
I get all of the reasons he might leave, but here's the problem I have. Mullen is the 16th highest paid head coach in the country for 2015. Of the 15 that were paid more, seven were also in the SEC. Of the eight remaining coaches, four are Big 10 coaches -- former NFL head coach Jim Harbaugh, defending national champion Urban Meyer, longtime Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz and Penn State's James Franklin. To me, the only one that doesn't fit there is Franklin, who more than doubled his previous salary at Vanderbilt. The other three are 2014 national champion Jimbo Fisher, Charlie Strong of deep pocketed Texas and Baylor's Art Briles, who has bumped his salary from less than a million in 2009 to $4.3 million this year.
I say all of that to make a couple of points. Mullen doesn't have the skins on the wall of a Fisher, Meyer, Ferentz or even Harbaugh. Maryland doesn't have the deep pockets of a Texas or a Penn State. So unless Maryland catches a windfall of cash and believes Mullen is a national championship level coach, I don't see it happening. To entice him to move, you would think he'd have to get some kind of a bump in salary. I just can't believe that a program that had been in some pretty dire financial trouble recently and just had to pay a hefty sum to the ACC can come up with the money necessary to get Mullen to come. It's a stretch for me to think that they would be paying Edsall around half what Mullen makes at Mississippi State, but now Maryland will pony up and make Mullen a top 7-10 paid coach. Maybe for a championship head coach like Les Miles, but not for Dan Mullen.
The owner of Under Armour is Maryland's biggest booster, particularly the football program.
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11-25-2015 06:08 AM |
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
Why on earth would Mullen leave the SEC for Maryland? Makes little sense.
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11-25-2015 06:24 AM |
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
(11-25-2015 06:24 AM)quo vadis Wrote: Why on earth would Mullen leave the SEC for Maryland? Makes little sense.
Spoken like a true SEC fan.
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11-25-2015 07:41 AM |
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vandiver49
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
(11-24-2015 10:03 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: As long as he is getting paid more money there, it is an upward move for him. In terms of success? With the rise of Ole Miss, its just all that much less likely that he achieves any great success in the SEC West. He is a northerner, he is returning home so to speak in similar fashion to Meyer.
I imagine that unless you were born and raised in all of that crazy down South, its not an atmosphere that you want to stay in long term. Some may acclimate themselves to it, some may not.
People are seeming to have a very simplistic perspective on this.
If Mullen is getting paid more, sure the move makes sense. If Stark-Vegas isn't metropolitan enough for him and he wants to more up north, I wouldn't begrudge Mullen that either. Him deciding to leave when Dak Prescott moves on has merit as well. But the bolded is what I'd take issue with. Leaving the SEC West for the B1G East is a lateral move from a competitive POV. PSU, tOSU, UM and MSU make the Terps jobs the functional equivalent of MSST.
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11-25-2015 07:59 AM |
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
(11-25-2015 07:59 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: (11-24-2015 10:03 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: As long as he is getting paid more money there, it is an upward move for him. In terms of success? With the rise of Ole Miss, its just all that much less likely that he achieves any great success in the SEC West. He is a northerner, he is returning home so to speak in similar fashion to Meyer.
I imagine that unless you were born and raised in all of that crazy down South, its not an atmosphere that you want to stay in long term. Some may acclimate themselves to it, some may not.
People are seeming to have a very simplistic perspective on this.
If Mullen is getting paid more, sure the move makes sense. If Stark-Vegas isn't metropolitan enough for him and he wants to more up north, I wouldn't begrudge Mullen that either. Him deciding to leave when Dak Prescott moves on has merit as well. But the bolded is what I'd take issue with. Leaving the SEC West for the B1G East is a lateral move from a competitive POV. PSU, tOSU, UM and MSU make the Terps jobs the functional equivalent of MSST.
You know, I have spoken about all of that as well. So in THAT context, having to face the pressure in Starkville about Ole Miss growing faster than Miss State may not be worth facing for him. So Ole Miss is a valid point as I made with the "Crazy" comment in the post you quoted. I know I can talk about that with you because you are a Vandy guy. You guys are considerably less crazy than everyone else in the SEC. I am sure the pressure he has been facing due to how much attention, exposure and success Ole Miss has been having while at the same time Miss State is never talked about.
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11-25-2015 08:07 AM |
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
If true, it's a great get for Maryland.
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11-25-2015 08:11 AM |
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
Maybe he likes a challenge....?
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11-25-2015 08:17 AM |
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
I will say this again. Who ever Maryland hires, they know the challenge ahead of them. OSU, UM, MSU and PSU every year. No denying that it will be difficult. But I believe MD must and will give this person a long term contract. Whoever comes in will be coming into a stable situation. Unless NCAA investigators are on campus or they just completely fail, they will be here for 4 years. It will not be MD who parts ways before that.
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11-25-2015 08:29 AM |
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vandiver49
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
(11-25-2015 08:07 AM)He1nousOne Wrote: (11-25-2015 07:59 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: (11-24-2015 10:03 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: As long as he is getting paid more money there, it is an upward move for him. In terms of success? With the rise of Ole Miss, its just all that much less likely that he achieves any great success in the SEC West. He is a northerner, he is returning home so to speak in similar fashion to Meyer.
I imagine that unless you were born and raised in all of that crazy down South, its not an atmosphere that you want to stay in long term. Some may acclimate themselves to it, some may not.
People are seeming to have a very simplistic perspective on this.
If Mullen is getting paid more, sure the move makes sense. If Stark-Vegas isn't metropolitan enough for him and he wants to more up north, I wouldn't begrudge Mullen that either. Him deciding to leave when Dak Prescott moves on has merit as well. But the bolded is what I'd take issue with. Leaving the SEC West for the B1G East is a lateral move from a competitive POV. PSU, tOSU, UM and MSU make the Terps jobs the functional equivalent of MSST.
You know, I have spoken about all of that as well. So in THAT context, having to face the pressure in Starkville about Ole Miss growing faster than Miss State may not be worth facing for him. So Ole Miss is a valid point as I made with the "Crazy" comment in the post you quoted. I know I can talk about that with you because you are a Vandy guy. You guys are considerably less crazy than everyone else in the SEC. I am sure the pressure he has been facing due to how much attention, exposure and success Ole Miss has been having while at the same time Miss State is never talked about.
Then I supposed I missed that comment up-thread. If so then my bad. And while for SEC purposes I'm a UTK fan, I understand that it's not an environment that fits everyone. That said, you're going to have a hard time convincing me that the fanaticism is different in places like Happy Valley and Gainesville or Athens and Columbus.
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11-25-2015 08:49 AM |
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
Maybe his dream is to beat Rutgers?
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11-25-2015 09:28 AM |
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
(11-25-2015 08:29 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote: I will say this again. Who ever Maryland hires, they know the challenge ahead of them. OSU, UM, MSU and PSU every year. No denying that it will be difficult. But I believe MD must and will give this person a long term contract. Whoever comes in will be coming into a stable situation. Unless NCAA investigators are on campus or they just completely fail, they will be here for 4 years. It will not be MD who parts ways before that.
In some ways though, playing those four teams every year could be a bonus for Maryland. If Maryland is good, that's four potentially high profile games for players to showcase their skills.
I grew up in the DC area and casually rooted for UMD until I went to college. I loved Ralph and I thought UMD did him shady and I absolutely hate the fact that they're in the Big Ten now. I actively root against them now, but I would have a renewed interest if Mullen ended up there. He's one of my favorite coaches out there and has done wonders at a school that faces so many challenges.
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
(11-25-2015 08:29 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote: I will say this again. Who ever Maryland hires, they know the challenge ahead of them. OSU, UM, MSU and PSU every year. No denying that it will be difficult. But I believe MD must and will give this person a long term contract. Whoever comes in will be coming into a stable situation. Unless NCAA investigators are on campus or they just completely fail, they will be here for 4 years. It will not be MD who parts ways before that.
For a guy who has to deal with Alabama, Auburn, TAMU, and LSU every year that may just seem like another day at the office.
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
Mullen is making $4 million this year and $4.3 million from 2016 to 2018. I don't see him coming to College Park unless he brings the Mississippi State football team with him. Otoh, I could be wrong, especially if boosters step forward and pay the tab.
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Re: RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
(11-25-2015 01:57 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote: Mullen is making $4 million this year and $4.3 million from 2016 to 2018. I don't see him coming to College Park unless he brings the Mississippi State football team with him. Otoh, I could be wrong, especially if boosters step forward and pay the tab.
I agree with this. It would be surprising to see him in MD. The money will be the issue.
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RE: Dan Mullen to Maryland expected
(11-25-2015 02:06 PM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote: (11-25-2015 01:57 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote: Mullen is making $4 million this year and $4.3 million from 2016 to 2018. I don't see him coming to College Park unless he brings the Mississippi State football team with him. Otoh, I could be wrong, especially if boosters step forward and pay the tab.
I agree with this. It would be surprising to see him in MD. The money will be the issue.
Mullen has spent quite some time in the south but keep in mind he is from the Northeast (born outside Philadelphia, living most of his youth in New England and going to college again in the suburbs of Philadelphia).
There were rumors he was interested/involved with the Penn State job after Paterno so heading up this way (as Maryland is kind of the middle between north and south) with the Under Armour money would not be surprising.
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11-25-2015 02:13 PM |
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