https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Fuentes

(11-25-2015 03:35 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 02:34 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 10:26 PM)Crimsonelf Wrote:  I think Miko makes a very valid, even humanitarian, point. Let's take the issue he raises more seriously please....

From that perspective, ALL the blame is on the P5. They are the dirty dogs stealing away coaches from Houston and Memphis. Why can't they pick on the NFL?

It's not the fault of the P5 schools that coaches are looking at different jobs. If Fuentes and Hermann want to coach at different schools, that's their choice.

It is not anyone's fault with that logic....Like no offense to Marshall but if UCF came calling their coach would be waiving the deuces sign. And if Florida came calling he would be waiving the deuces sign to UCF. And if the NFL came calling he may be waiving the deuces sign to Florida.

(11-25-2015 03:35 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 02:34 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 10:26 PM)Crimsonelf Wrote:  I think Miko makes a very valid, even humanitarian, point. Let's take the issue he raises more seriously please....

From that perspective, ALL the blame is on the P5. They are the dirty dogs stealing away coaches from Houston and Memphis. Why can't they pick on the NFL?

It's not the fault of the P5 schools that coaches are looking at different jobs. If Fuentes and Hermann want to coach at different schools, that's their choice.

(11-25-2015 04:26 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 03:35 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 02:34 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 10:26 PM)Crimsonelf Wrote:  I think Miko makes a very valid, even humanitarian, point. Let's take the issue he raises more seriously please....

From that perspective, ALL the blame is on the P5. They are the dirty dogs stealing away coaches from Houston and Memphis. Why can't they pick on the NFL?

It's not the fault of the P5 schools that coaches are looking at different jobs. If Fuentes and Hermann want to coach at different schools, that's their choice.

It is not anyone's fault with that logic....Like no offense to Marshall but if UCF came calling their coach would be waiving the deuces sign. And if Florida came calling he would be waiving the deuces sign to UCF. And if the NFL came calling he may be waiving the deuces sign to Florida.

It's nowhere close to being as simple as that.

(11-24-2015 12:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  With the odds that HC's who are coaching for FB teams in the American conf possibly choosing to depart from their current schools to pursue other endeavors, we should expect that the American conf will cause a great deal of upheaval as it will likely attempt to poach HC's from schools located in other conferences. In a way, it looks like it's almost unethical to do something like that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is unethical. However, I wouldn't be surprised if some AD's in the American may find themselves taking a few too many showers to wash away some of the shame and guilt by treating their fellow schools via poaching. While I think it's inevitable to the game and the times we live in, it's not pretty either.

Come back when Pitt is relevant again.

(11-24-2015 12:57 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Didn't Pitt go through five coaches in four years?

and all of them sucked.

Reminds me of how downhill Dave Wandstaedt's career went when Ricky Williams refused to face a drug test--err, I mean retired before training camp. Dave has had the anti-Midas touch since then.

(11-24-2015 12:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  With the odds that HC's who are coaching for FB teams in the American conf possibly choosing to depart from their current schools to pursue other endeavors, we should expect that the American conf will cause a great deal of upheaval as it will likely attempt to poach HC's from schools located in other conferences. In a way, it looks like it's almost unethical to do something like that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is unethical. However, I wouldn't be surprised if some AD's in the American may find themselves taking a few too many showers to wash away some of the shame and guilt by treating their fellow schools via poaching. While I think it's inevitable to the game and the times we live in, it's not pretty either.

say what?

While I understand your point, Charlie Strong actually left Louisville from The American Conference not The Big East. Still a valid point however.
CJ

(11-24-2015 01:12 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  The Old Big East faced the same "problem" - coaches that would be poached by other power programs that forced Big East schools to start fresh and try and maintain momentum moving forward. Brian Kelly (Notre Dame), Mark Dantonio (Michigan State), Butch Jones (Tennessee), Bobby Petrino (Atlanta Falcons), Charlie Strong (Texas), Rich Rodriguez (Michigan), Randy Edsall (Maryland), Greg Schiano (Tampa Bay Buccaneers), Todd Graham (Arizona State), Paul Chryst (Wisconsin), and Doug Marrone (Buffalo Bills).

The fact is that it is not really a "problem" at all. It is an outstanding opportunity for the American football programs to build sustained success with multiple coaches - making them more appealing to power conferences. While it can be frustrating to lose coaches that your school has given a substantial opportunity to, there are a plethora of coaching candidates every year that the power conferences overlook and/or former power conference coaches that are looking to continue coaching with less stress and pressure.

The American should not sweat if they lose Fuente, Rhule, Herman, or any other head coaches. The football programs are bigger than them. They just need to find the right fit and build upon the momentum they have earned.

The only "turmoil" caused by the AAC this year is that we routinely beat the other P5 conferences, and absolutely kicked the ACC's arse. Feeling a little heat Mickey?

(11-26-2015 09:03 PM)Ghis Wrote:  The only "turmoil" caused by the AAC this year is that we routinely beat the other P5 conferences, and absolutely kicked the ACC's arse. Feeling a little heat Mickey?

Have to agree with this and I also do not think it is a stretch to say that any AAC team could poach any coach from any G5 school we want. We could take the coach from Marshall, Toledo, Southern Miss, Colorado St. and the list goes on and on. They would leave so fast for the much much better AAC, they may not even remember to pack. I also think it is very possible our higher end schools like Central Florida or Memphis or Houston could poach some P5 head coaches. We already know the AAC has surpassed the ACC this year and next year who knows we could surpass the Big 12 or Pac 12 as well.

(11-26-2015 09:12 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 12:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  With the odds that HC's who are coaching for FB teams in the American conf possibly choosing to depart from their current schools to pursue other endeavors, we should expect that the American conf will cause a great deal of upheaval as it will likely attempt to poach HC's from schools located in other conferences. In a way, it looks like it's almost unethical to do something like that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is unethical. However, I wouldn't be surprised if some AD's in the American may find themselves taking a few too many showers to wash away some of the shame and guilt by treating their fellow schools via poaching. While I think it's inevitable to the game and the times we live in, it's not pretty either.

Come back when Pitt is relevant again.

Considering it has been 30 plus years since PITT was relevant, you may have a long wait.

Lmao at Pitt. Yall need to juat disband football. Shut the program down

Miko

I miss playing Pitt....it was fun to give you an annual arse whipping.

(11-26-2015 11:12 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  

(11-26-2015 09:03 PM)Ghis Wrote:  The only "turmoil" caused by the AAC this year is that we routinely beat the other P5 conferences, and absolutely kicked the ACC's arse. Feeling a little heat Mickey?

Have to agree with this and I also do not think it is a stretch to say that any AAC team could poach any coach from any G5 school we want. We could take the coach from Marshall, Toledo, Southern Miss, Colorado St. and the list goes on and on. They would leave so fast for the much much better AAC, they may not even remember to pack. I also think it is very possible our higher end schools like Central Florida or Memphis or Houston could poach some P5 head coaches. We already know the AAC has surpassed the ACC this year and next year who knows we could surpass the Big 12 or Pac 12 as well.

Stop the madness!

Why would any Coach from the MAC/Belt/C-USA go to Tulane?

Sorry, but I had to put your statement into some context because you statement is flawed....

Tony Dorsett is not walking through that door any time soon.

(11-24-2015 12:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  With the odds that HC's who are coaching for FB teams in the American conf possibly choosing to depart from their current schools to pursue other endeavors, we should expect that the American conf will cause a great deal of upheaval as it will likely attempt to poach HC's from schools located in other conferences. In a way, it looks like it's almost unethical to do something like that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is unethical. However, I wouldn't be surprised if some AD's in the American may find themselves taking a few too many showers to wash away some of the shame and guilt by treating their fellow schools via poaching. While I think it's inevitable to the game and the times we live in, it's not pretty either.