(11-24-2015 11:48 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:44 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:39 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:36 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:26 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  Odom is young and he's been successful wherever he's been. He could be the next hot young coach.

With Lynch to the NFL I wonder if quality coaches like Odom would hesitate? Otherwise I'm fully on board the Odom bus.

Losing Lynch hurts, but Brady Davis was a highly rated recruit. Can we keep the Keon Howard commitment? The next coach needs to have confidence in his recruiting ability. I think one of the factors pushing Fuente towards the door is he doesn't think he can sustain high level recruiting at Memphis.

Maybe --- but I think we all know the primary reason. If you're career minded and want to make a mark in college football --- you need to be at a decent P5 school.

Agreed. Which probably means that Fuente knows the Big XII invite isn't coming in a time frame that works for his career (if ever).

Not really. Even in the P5 we today we would not be considered a decent P5... Miami, VT, etc. are simply better jobs regardless of conference affiliation. Most people are simply not like Patterson at TCU...

http://gridironnow.com/justin-fuente-def...inia-tech/

As for Memphis, should Fuente move on, insiders tell GN to keep an eye on UAB coach Bill Clark, Missouri defensive coordinator Barry Odom and USC interim head coach Clay Helton. UAB’s program is on “hiatus” until 2017; Clark has been a college head coach for two seasons, at FCS member Jacksonville State in 2013 and at UAB in 2014. Odom is in his first season as Mizzou’s DC after serving in the same position at Memphis for three seasons. Helton also has Memphis connections; he was a Memphis assistant from 2000-09, serving as the offensive coordinator for the last three seasons. He has been at USC since 2010, first working for Lane Kiffin, then Steve Sarkisian.


PLEASE!

(11-24-2015 11:54 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:48 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:44 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:39 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:36 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  With Lynch to the NFL I wonder if quality coaches like Odom would hesitate? Otherwise I'm fully on board the Odom bus.

Losing Lynch hurts, but Brady Davis was a highly rated recruit. Can we keep the Keon Howard commitment? The next coach needs to have confidence in his recruiting ability. I think one of the factors pushing Fuente towards the door is he doesn't think he can sustain high level recruiting at Memphis.

Maybe --- but I think we all know the primary reason. If you're career minded and want to make a mark in college football --- you need to be at a decent P5 school.

Agreed. Which probably means that Fuente knows the Big XII invite isn't coming in a time frame that works for his career (if ever).

Not really. Even in the P5 we today we would not be considered a decent P5... Miami, VT, etc. are simply better jobs regardless of conference affiliation. Most people are simply not like Patterson at TCU...

You're right. It would take a few years, but less than a decade ago Baylor was the worst team in the country. The P5 money is huge.

Think about this fact. Memphis has a 50 million dollar a year athletic budget. Is building new facilities all the while getting a whopping 2 million a year from the AAC. With even a half share from the Big XII, the Tigers make huge strides.

(11-24-2015 11:54 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:48 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:44 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:39 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:36 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  With Lynch to the NFL I wonder if quality coaches like Odom would hesitate? Otherwise I'm fully on board the Odom bus.

Losing Lynch hurts, but Brady Davis was a highly rated recruit. Can we keep the Keon Howard commitment? The next coach needs to have confidence in his recruiting ability. I think one of the factors pushing Fuente towards the door is he doesn't think he can sustain high level recruiting at Memphis.

Maybe --- but I think we all know the primary reason. If you're career minded and want to make a mark in college football --- you need to be at a decent P5 school.

Agreed. Which probably means that Fuente knows the Big XII invite isn't coming in a time frame that works for his career (if ever).

Not really. Even in the P5 we today we would not be considered a decent P5... Miami, VT, etc. are simply better jobs regardless of conference affiliation. Most people are simply not like Patterson at TCU...

In fact only Patterson is like Patterson. No?

(11-24-2015 11:59 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:54 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:48 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:44 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:39 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote:  Losing Lynch hurts, but Brady Davis was a highly rated recruit. Can we keep the Keon Howard commitment? The next coach needs to have confidence in his recruiting ability. I think one of the factors pushing Fuente towards the door is he doesn't think he can sustain high level recruiting at Memphis.

Maybe --- but I think we all know the primary reason. If you're career minded and want to make a mark in college football --- you need to be at a decent P5 school.

Agreed. Which probably means that Fuente knows the Big XII invite isn't coming in a time frame that works for his career (if ever).

Not really. Even in the P5 we today we would not be considered a decent P5... Miami, VT, etc. are simply better jobs regardless of conference affiliation. Most people are simply not like Patterson at TCU...

You're right. It would take a few years, but less than a decade ago Baylor was the worst team in the country. The P5 money is huge.

Think about this fact. Memphis has a 50 million dollar a year athletic budget. Is building new facilities all the while getting a whopping 2 million a year from the AAC. With even a half share from the Big XII, the Tigers make huge strides.

With Lynch to the Pros, the BXII still undecided it seems, and an absolute ton of quality / P5 job openings --- now is the time for Fuente to make his move. As long as we follow Fuente with a decent hire (for example - Odom) I think we'll be fine re BXII.

(11-24-2015 11:59 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  http://gridironnow.com/justin-fuente-def...inia-tech/

As for Memphis, should Fuente move on, insiders tell GN to keep an eye on UAB coach Bill Clark, Missouri defensive coordinator Barry Odom and USC interim head coach Clay Helton. UAB’s program is on “hiatus” until 2017; Clark has been a college head coach for two seasons, at FCS member Jacksonville State in 2013 and at UAB in 2014. Odom is in his first season as Mizzou’s DC after serving in the same position at Memphis for three seasons. Helton also has Memphis connections; he was a Memphis assistant from 2000-09, serving as the offensive coordinator for the last three seasons. He has been at USC since 2010, first working for Lane Kiffin, then Steve Sarkisian.


PLEASE!

Not that it means anything, but Clark signed a five year extension this year.

(11-24-2015 12:05 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:59 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  http://gridironnow.com/justin-fuente-def...inia-tech/

As for Memphis, should Fuente move on, insiders tell GN to keep an eye on UAB coach Bill Clark, Missouri defensive coordinator Barry Odom and USC interim head coach Clay Helton. UAB’s program is on “hiatus” until 2017; Clark has been a college head coach for two seasons, at FCS member Jacksonville State in 2013 and at UAB in 2014. Odom is in his first season as Mizzou’s DC after serving in the same position at Memphis for three seasons. Helton also has Memphis connections; he was a Memphis assistant from 2000-09, serving as the offensive coordinator for the last three seasons. He has been at USC since 2010, first working for Lane Kiffin, then Steve Sarkisian.


PLEASE!

Not that it means anything, but Clark signed a five year extension this year.

Wonder what the buyout is???? All I know about Clark is that he worked his way up through the HS ranks in AL and then had UAB doing well. He seems like a good fit for them.

(11-24-2015 12:01 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:54 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:48 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:44 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:39 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote:  Losing Lynch hurts, but Brady Davis was a highly rated recruit. Can we keep the Keon Howard commitment? The next coach needs to have confidence in his recruiting ability. I think one of the factors pushing Fuente towards the door is he doesn't think he can sustain high level recruiting at Memphis.

Maybe --- but I think we all know the primary reason. If you're career minded and want to make a mark in college football --- you need to be at a decent P5 school.

Agreed. Which probably means that Fuente knows the Big XII invite isn't coming in a time frame that works for his career (if ever).

Not really. Even in the P5 we today we would not be considered a decent P5... Miami, VT, etc. are simply better jobs regardless of conference affiliation. Most people are simply not like Patterson at TCU...

In fact only Patterson is like Patterson. No?

If we are wanting to get all philosophical like...

(11-24-2015 11:42 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:40 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:29 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Stoops and Patterson both hired really progressive OCs recently.

Stoops had been in a rut for a couple of years and Patterson was troubling to score after moving from the BE to the B12.

If Odom wants to hire a progressive OC and leave him alone, I'd be all for hiring a defensive guy.

Rip Scherer was an OC.

You'll note I said "progressive" OC.

I wouldn't hire the OC from Iowa or New Mexico either.

Dumbazz

Prior to coaching at Memphis, he was the head coach at James Madison University in Harrisonburg, VA from 1991-94, during a time when the Dukes set or tied over 140 school records and helped them to a 10-3 record in 1994 and 29-19 record in four years.

How about that Arkansas High school coach who always goes for it on 4th down and on-sides kicks.

(11-24-2015 12:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  How about that Arkansas High school coach who always goes for it on 4th down and on-sides kicks.

Sounds like the next thread for the board's slack jawed / troll clique ---

(11-24-2015 12:16 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 12:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  How about that Arkansas High school coach who always goes for it on 4th down and on-sides kicks.

Sounds like the next thread for the board's slack jawed / troll clique ---

Which trolls?

The nattering 9 or the apologists?

(11-24-2015 12:19 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 12:16 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 12:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  How about that Arkansas High school coach who always goes for it on 4th down and on-sides kicks.

Sounds like the next thread for the board's slack jawed / troll clique ---

Which trolls?

The nattering 9 or the apologists?

One big happy family.

Our 'troll - dumb guy' cup runneth over. Thank you god-mods.

(11-24-2015 12:16 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 12:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  How about that Arkansas High school coach who always goes for it on 4th down and on-sides kicks.

Sounds like the next thread for the board's slack jawed / troll clique ---

Oh there are a few already posted that top that. Easy.

Odom would keep some continuity and similar coaching styles. I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Fuente would leave for the Virginia Tech job if we were invited to the SEC last week.

(11-24-2015 01:18 PM)BERT56 Wrote:  Odom would keep some continuity and similar coaching styles. I'd take him in a heartbeat.

It will be Odom.. IMO


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(11-24-2015 01:20 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  Fuente would leave for the Virginia Tech job if we were invited to the SEC last week.

I wonder why? I see where its a better job right now and that joining the SEC would mean a steep learning curve for the program. I also wonder if there are things he doesn't like about the city, the school, the fans, or his bosses? Would be interesting to know.

(11-24-2015 11:26 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 11:24 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Take Odom... in a heartbeat.

Odom is young and he's been successful wherever he's been. He could be the next hot young coach.

Where HAS he been? What exactly are his credentials?