I never realized that UT is one of the smaller schools by enrollment in the MAC

Kent State 41,365
Ohio 35,000
Akron 29,699
Buffalo 29,049
Central Michigan 28,311
Western Michigan 25,086
Northern Illinois 23,850
Eastern Michigan 23,341
Toledo 21,500
Ball State 17,728
Miami 17,557
Bowling Green 17,234

Kent is huge. They just Kent write and Kent read.

(11-24-2015 12:38 AM)Sleepy Wrote:  I never realized that UT is one of the smaller schools by enrollment in the MAC

Kent State 41,365
Ohio 35,000
Akron 29,699
Buffalo 29,049
Central Michigan 28,311
Western Michigan 25,086
Northern Illinois 23,850
Eastern Michigan 23,341
Toledo 21,500
Ball State 17,728
Miami 17,557
Bowling Green 17,234

1. Kent and Ohio both have many satellite campuses which push their numbers up.

2. Toledo is now at 20,325, BG is at 19,172 as of fall 2015.

(11-24-2015 01:04 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Kent is huge. They just Kent write and Kent read.

and still can't draw 5,000 to a home football game.....

(11-24-2015 04:11 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 12:38 AM)Sleepy Wrote:  I never realized that UT is one of the smaller schools by enrollment in the MAC

Kent State 41,365
Ohio 35,000
Akron 29,699
Buffalo 29,049
Central Michigan 28,311
Western Michigan 25,086
Northern Illinois 23,850
Eastern Michigan 23,341
Toledo 21,500
Ball State 17,728
Miami 17,557
Bowling Green 17,234

1. Kent and Ohio both have many satellite campuses which push their numbers up.

2. Toledo is now at 20,325, BG is at 19,172 as of fall 2015.

Does this number include the students enrolled at the Medical College?

Kent and Akron are in a metro area 6 times larger than Toledo and compete only with CSU for the local population who doesn't want, or can't afford to go far from home or to a private school. Toledo on the other hand has competition from BG and EMU for the local students. Not surprising Kent and Akron have much higher enrollments.

(11-24-2015 08:06 AM)letsgoblue Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 04:11 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 12:38 AM)Sleepy Wrote:  I never realized that UT is one of the smaller schools by enrollment in the MAC

Kent State 41,365
Ohio 35,000
Akron 29,699
Buffalo 29,049
Central Michigan 28,311
Western Michigan 25,086
Northern Illinois 23,850
Eastern Michigan 23,341
Toledo 21,500
Ball State 17,728
Miami 17,557
Bowling Green 17,234

1. Kent and Ohio both have many satellite campuses which push their numbers up.

2. Toledo is now at 20,325, BG is at 19,172 as of fall 2015.

Does this number include the students enrolled at the Medical College?

yes

Tis is old data. 2015 fall enrollment at Ball State is 21,196.

It seems to me I've heard from a couple sources that the # of kids graduating high school from the Toledo metro area and going on to college has declined steadily (particularly from within the city of Toledo). As a result, UT competes head-to-head with largely Kent State and Akron for Cleveland-area high school grads, and to a growing extent with EMU for Detroit-area grads...and then of course with BG for NW Ohio (and to a lesser extent, schools like Lourdes, Tiffin, Defiance College, Adrian College, Siena Heights, etc...). Just a lot of colleges in a 200-mile radius, with a growing cost of education making it less affordable...

(11-24-2015 10:48 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  It seems to me I've heard from a couple sources that the # of kids graduating high school from the Toledo metro area and going on to college has declined steadily (particularly from within the city of Toledo). As a result, UT competes head-to-head with largely Kent State and Akron for Cleveland-area high school grads, and to a growing extent with EMU for Detroit-area grads...and then of course with BG for NW Ohio (and to a lesser extent, schools like Lourdes, Tiffin, Defiance College, Adrian College, Siena Heights, etc...). Just a lot of colleges in a 200-mile radius, with a growing cost of education making it less affordable...

The number of high school grads in Ohio is going down every year.

(11-24-2015 10:55 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  The number of high school grads in Ohio is going down every year.

Is the population of youths decreasing or is the percentage graduates decreasing? While both provide problems, the later is more concerning than the other.

I believe NIU is closer to 21,000 now.

Didn't I read that when The University of Toledo and the former ? Medical College of Ohio merged that it became the third largest in the state of Ohio???

(11-24-2015 01:21 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  Didn't I read that when The University of Toledo and the former ? Medical College of Ohio merged that it became the third largest in the state of Ohio???

Third largest in terms of overall budget size after OSU and U of C That is still correct primarily due to the budget size of the Health Science Campus.

(11-24-2015 01:33 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 01:21 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  Didn't I read that when The University of Toledo and the former ? Medical College of Ohio merged that it became the third largest in the state of Ohio???

Third largest in terms of overall budget size after OSU and U of C That is still correct primarily due to the budget size of the Health Science Campus.

Thank you. Thought I was losing it there for a minute

Is UT still open enrollment? I thought that had changed in the last 10 years or so as well? 3rd largest budget and a smaller number of students sounds like a good thing to me.

Some other very important criteria that are very important in addition to the # of students. UT is in the top tier compared to other MAC schools and Ohio Schools in terms of overall endowment size and also has a very low debt ratio compared to our peers. Endowments provide money to the academic size, the larger the endowment the more they can help. Debt is a drag on revenue that could be used for the academic side, the more debt you have larger amount of revenue has to go toward principal and interest. The past administrations have done a very good job on those two very important items.

(11-24-2015 01:56 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  Some other very important criteria that are very important in addition to the # of students. UT is in the top tier compared to other MAC schools and Ohio Schools in terms of overall endowment size and also has a very low debt ratio compared to our peers. Endowments provide money to the academic size, the larger the endowment the more they can help. Debt is a drag on revenue that could be used for the academic side, the more debt you have larger amount of revenue has to go toward principal and interest. The past administrations have done a very good job on those two very important items.

UT is 5th in the MAC in endowment and will move up to 4th when UMass leaves, so that's certainly in the top tier of the conference. But, I'm not sure you can say UT is in the top tier of Ohio schools. They come in 9th in terms of Ohio schools as of FY 2014.

(11-24-2015 07:49 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 01:56 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  Some other very important criteria that are very important in addition to the # of students. UT is in the top tier compared to other MAC schools and Ohio Schools in terms of overall endowment size and also has a very low debt ratio compared to our peers. Endowments provide money to the academic size, the larger the endowment the more they can help. Debt is a drag on revenue that could be used for the academic side, the more debt you have larger amount of revenue has to go toward principal and interest. The past administrations have done a very good job on those two very important items.

UT is 5th in the MAC in endowment and will move up to 4th when UMass leaves, so that's certainly in the top tier of the conference. But, I'm not sure you can say UT is in the top tier of Ohio schools. They come in 9th in terms of Ohio schools as of FY 2014.

Top tier in debt level.

(11-24-2015 12:38 AM)Sleepy Wrote:  I never realized that UT is one of the smaller schools by enrollment in the MAC

Kent State 41,365
Ohio 35,000
Akron 29,699
Buffalo 29,049
Central Michigan 28,311
Western Michigan 25,086
Northern Illinois 23,850
Eastern Michigan 23,341
Toledo 21,500
Ball State 17,728
Miami 17,557
Bowling Green 17,234

Toledo's enrollment has declined over the last 15-20 years