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(11-23-2015 01:30 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
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(11-22-2015 02:05 PM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote:  OSU = bunch of whiny ass losers. They cannot be humble in defeat. That comes from the staff down. Urban at OSU owes his success to Tom Hermann (former OC). They are nothing without him.

Ridiculous statement.
Urban Meyer's resume speaks for itself.
I am not a OSU fan even a little.
But Urban has had success EVERYWHERE and has seen coordinators and assistants rise the ranks to become head coaches over and over.
He picks good people, sure, but its his methods above all.

This seasons team is nothing without Herman though... that much is true. Same talent on the team as last year...actually healthier same talent and way less production. Meyer is an awesome HC with an incredible resume, but his OSU offense from last year was credit to Herman. Without him, their offense is goodish, not greatish. OSU does have a good D, and Meyer is a good coach....but they are missing Herman. The events post game prove that play calling was a boo boo against MSU.

And how much of that statement was ridiculous? Whiny losers? Check. Sore losers? Check. Meyer owns success at Ohio State to Herman? Maybe not all of his success, but his offensive success and play calling ability.... Check.

Nothing??? 10-1 and second best team in the state is nothing? He's had an amazing year. Check the standings for 1 loss teams and see how many are left.
11-23-2015 04:40 PM
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(11-23-2015 04:40 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  ... and second best team in the state is nothing?

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11-23-2015 04:52 PM
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OSU's signature win for the season is NIU. 03-shhhh
11-23-2015 05:23 PM
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(11-23-2015 04:40 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(11-23-2015 01:30 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(11-23-2015 12:34 PM)owen Wrote:  
(11-22-2015 02:05 PM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote:  OSU = bunch of whiny ass losers. They cannot be humble in defeat. That comes from the staff down. Urban at OSU owes his success to Tom Hermann (former OC). They are nothing without him.

Ridiculous statement.
Urban Meyer's resume speaks for itself.
I am not a OSU fan even a little.
But Urban has had success EVERYWHERE and has seen coordinators and assistants rise the ranks to become head coaches over and over.
He picks good people, sure, but its his methods above all.

This seasons team is nothing without Herman though... that much is true. Same talent on the team as last year...actually healthier same talent and way less production. Meyer is an awesome HC with an incredible resume, but his OSU offense from last year was credit to Herman. Without him, their offense is goodish, not greatish. OSU does have a good D, and Meyer is a good coach....but they are missing Herman. The events post game prove that play calling was a boo boo against MSU.

And how much of that statement was ridiculous? Whiny losers? Check. Sore losers? Check. Meyer owns success at Ohio State to Herman? Maybe not all of his success, but his offensive success and play calling ability.... Check.

Nothing??? 10-1 and second best team in the state is nothing? He's had an amazing year. Check the standings for 1 loss teams and see how many are left.

I dislike o$u, and I dislike discussing anything o$u, until H2O comes out with one of his classic gems... 04-bow
11-23-2015 05:26 PM
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(11-23-2015 01:30 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  This seasons team is nothing without Herman though... that much is true. Same talent on the team as last year...actually healthier same talent and way less production. Meyer is an awesome HC with an incredible resume, but his OSU offense from last year was credit to Herman. Without him, their offense is goodish, not greatish. OSU does have a good D, and Meyer is a good coach....but they are missing Herman. The events post game prove that play calling was a boo boo against MSU.

And how much of that statement was ridiculous? Whiny losers? Check. Sore losers? Check. Meyer owns success at Ohio State to Herman? Maybe not all of his success, but his offensive success and play calling ability.... Check.

Last year tOSU lost to a VA Tech team that was no where near as good as Michigan State is this year so why the big whoop now? Well, there are two significant differences between last year's loss and this year's loss and I am not counting Herman as one of them. How badly a loss hurts a team often depends on when that loss was incurred. Last year the loss to VA Tech was early in the season which allowed them time to recover in the polls and it was OCC so it did not affect their standing within the conference----this year they lost in conference and too late in the season to recover in the polls.

However, the big difference is that after the early loss last year, expectations for a national championship fell to near zero, yet they were able to fight their way back into the picture and got what was at the time a somewhat controversial 4th place bowl ranking that allowed them to barely slip in the back door to the championship playoff series which they proceeded to win with a 3rd string QB who stepped up to save the day-------great story of overcoming obstacles, etc etc---media is disgustingly falling all over themselves fawning over tOSU and Coach Meyer and the team----the fans are obscenely happy and it is a feel good story all around.

Fast forward to this year and the media and entire football world anoints tOSU as national champs again before they take the first snap in the first game. The team and its fans are supremely confident to the point of arrogance as expectations soar past the moon. Players are elevated to the status of Hollywood Icons and Rock Stars, and start believing all the news stories and all those clippings as they slowly wind their way thru what is by enlarge a mediocre conference schedule as they confidently edge closer and closer to encountering the better conference teams at the very end of the season. So when the wheels came off the wagon Saturday, it was a very, very big catastrophic crash with a lot of abruptly crushed egos and dreams and that is what contributed to much of the finger pointing, name calling and blame that ensued. Kein Wunder! It is very difficult for any team to go undefeated over an entire season, regardless of their schedule so why indeed, the big surprise??

The big difference its that last year expectations were crushed early and hence the rest of the season was a pleasant surprise whereas this year expectations were sky high from the very outset and continued to grow week after week with every win until they came crashing down in a mighty roar following a terrible performance by tOSU near the end of the season.

Remember, you can't truly crush expectations with any brutality or real dramatic flair until they have first been raised to unreasonable heights----and that is exactly what happened to tOSU this year.
11-23-2015 06:10 PM
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Ohio State's best win this year is either Penn State or NIU. That's the difference. They aren't beating teams by 40, 50+ points like they were last season. Herman brought that high flying offense to Houston. Wait until he gets some recruits down in Houston... He locked up a 5 star receiver already.

Ohio State has played 1 top 25 team, and lost at home. Yeah it was rainy, but MSU lost the turnover battle 0-2 and still won. They didn't even have their starting QB play!

Last years Ohio State team was younger and less healthy than this one. Can you tell me why last years team was 20 points better? It's not all because of "expectations."

If we played their schedule, I bet we would have 2 losses at most. I think we could have been more effective against MSU's D with our play calling than Tosu was this weekend.
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11-23-2015 06:37 PM
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(11-23-2015 06:37 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Ohio State's best win this year is either Penn State or NIU. That's the difference. They aren't beating teams by 40, 50+ points like they were last season. Herman brought that high flying offense to Houston. Wait until he gets some recruits down in Houston... He locked up a 5 star receiver already.

I saw that Houston is going to offer him $3 Million to stay. I suspect Houston, really, really wants to join the Big 12 if/when they decide to expand back to 12 members and that is what is really behind their generous offer. Houston is no stranger to big time football and I suspect that they would like to get back into the big time----they use to play in the old Southwest Conference which was big time with all the important Texas schools plus Arkansas and they had some good teams there under Coach Bill Yeoman.

Still there are rumors that other schools, notably Southern Cal, have him on their list and Houston's $3 million, while very generous, will only serve to raise any offer that the Big Boys make him, because if the really want him, money is no object. I would not be terribly surprised to see him move on after this year.
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11-23-2015 07:58 PM
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(11-23-2015 01:31 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(11-23-2015 12:34 PM)owen Wrote:  
(11-22-2015 02:05 PM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote:  OSU = bunch of whiny ass losers. They cannot be humble in defeat. That comes from the staff down. Urban at OSU owes his success to Tom Hermann (former OC). They are nothing without him.

Ridiculous statement.
Urban Meyer's resume speaks for itself.
I am not a OSU fan even a little.
But Urban has had success EVERYWHERE and has seen coordinators and assistants rise the ranks to become head coaches over and over.
He picks good people, sure, but its his methods above all.

He left Florida with a lot of problems he created/couldn't handle and didn't want to be associated with them.

Those issues will be overlooked forever until he gets blasted with Tressell-like NCAA issues.
One thing about him is he has never been anywhere long enough to build a legacy.
But he can work miracles with other people'es recruits.
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(11-23-2015 06:37 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Ohio State's best win this year is either Penn State or NIU. That's the difference. They aren't beating teams by 40, 50+ points like they were last season. Herman brought that high flying offense to Houston. Wait until he gets some recruits down in Houston... He locked up a 5 star receiver already.

Ohio State has played 1 top 25 team, and lost at home. Yeah it was rainy, but MSU lost the turnover battle 0-2 and still won. They didn't even have their starting QB play!

Last years Ohio State team was younger and less healthy than this one. Can you tell me why last years team was 20 points better? It's not all because of "expectations."

If we played their schedule, I bet we would have 2 losses at most. I think we could have been more effective against MSU's D with our play calling than Tosu was this weekend.

I predicted OSU to be a 3 loss regular season team this season even with their weak schedule.
NIU and Indiana should have been #'s 1 and 2. But narrowly lost. i thought both had the ability.
Penn St i thought for sure was going to claim the 1st win over OSU and I was extremely wrong there.
So I'm guessing two losses.
By no means am I any kind of excuse maker for OSU.
Their line stinks and Urban Meyer was in a man crush with Cardale Jones and couldn't see Barrett needed the start from day one.
Cardale made a huge mistake not going pro. I could go back to posts I made all over saying he was blowing his only chance at NFL fortune.


Toledo, had they kept up the early season mojo, would definitely be the best team in Ohio. But sadly I haven't seen a Toledo team improve and peak at the right time in far too long.
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(11-23-2015 10:04 PM)owen Wrote:  
(11-23-2015 06:37 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Ohio State's best win this year is either Penn State or NIU. That's the difference. They aren't beating teams by 40, 50+ points like they were last season. Herman brought that high flying offense to Houston. Wait until he gets some recruits down in Houston... He locked up a 5 star receiver already.

Ohio State has played 1 top 25 team, and lost at home. Yeah it was rainy, but MSU lost the turnover battle 0-2 and still won. They didn't even have their starting QB play!

Last years Ohio State team was younger and less healthy than this one. Can you tell me why last years team was 20 points better? It's not all because of "expectations."

If we played their schedule, I bet we would have 2 losses at most. I think we could have been more effective against MSU's D with our play calling than Tosu was this weekend.

I predicted OSU to be a 3 loss regular season team this season even with their weak schedule.
NIU and Indiana should have been #'s 1 and 2. But narrowly lost. i thought both had the ability.
Penn St i thought for sure was going to claim the 1st win over OSU and I was extremely wrong there.
So I'm guessing two losses.
By no means am I any kind of excuse maker for OSU.
Their line stinks and Urban Meyer was in a man crush with Cardale Jones and couldn't see Barrett needed the start from day one.
Cardale made a huge mistake not going pro. I could go back to posts I made all over saying he was blowing his only chance at NFL fortune.


Toledo, had they kept up the early season mojo, would definitely be the best team in Ohio. But sadly I haven't seen a Toledo team improve and peak at the right time in far too long.

You missed the BG game?
11-24-2015 03:52 AM
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(11-23-2015 06:37 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Ohio State's best win this year is either Penn State or NIU. That's the difference. They aren't beating teams by 40, 50+ points like they were last season. Herman brought that high flying offense to Houston. Wait until he gets some recruits down in Houston... He locked up a 5 star receiver already.

Ohio State has played 1 top 25 team, and lost at home. Yeah it was rainy, but MSU lost the turnover battle 0-2 and still won. They didn't even have their starting QB play!

Last years Ohio State team was younger and less healthy than this one. Can you tell me why last years team was 20 points better? It's not all because of "expectations."

If we played their schedule, I bet we would have 2 losses at most. I think we could have been more effective against MSU's D with our play calling than Tosu was this weekend.

OSU is having major problems with their perimeter blocking. It's effecting their point production.
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