(11-19-2015 03:38 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:36 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 02:25 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  The talent for sure is there - whether it gets developed is another matter.

I have said this for some time. Hoopdreams has consistently put forth a clear rationale that Memphis has more talent than most every team the Tigers will play.

Sadly, just look at the prediction thread. The good posters are the one's that predicted Memphis to fall short.

Hmm, I wonder what the reason could be for that discrepancy?

Snicker

(11-19-2015 03:37 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:07 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 02:36 PM)memphis88 Wrote:  Also said we've surprised a lot of folks so far (in a good way) with how hard we've played and the apparent acceptance that we are not a half court team.

Said we could potentially look up in March and conclude that AN leaving was a good thing because it meant not being forced to try to run the offense through AN in the half court (both because he was our best player so we felt like doing so was our best hope and because he's not athletic enough to play the style we are playing this season).

This post comes from ignorance. Any coach in the nation would take AN in a heartbeat this season or next including JP. We would definitely be a tourney team with him. Don't have to slow to a crawl or run half court every time to use a players with his skills. Everytime i read something along these lines just remember: we have played 2 games and AN is a very good player (like him or not).

Austin Nichols at Center on this team would have been a good thing offensively...Defensively he still would have been a liability
.

LOL. He was in top 2-3 in blocked shots last year.

(11-19-2015 02:50 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 02:25 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  The talent for sure is there - whether it gets developed is another matter.

If it does, thank God we got Damon Stoudamire and Daddy Lawson.
If it does not, we blame JP.

Correct?

Pastner hired both, so he would get the credit.

I've always given him credit for his recruiting as well.

I don't know about blame - I've just been consistent even since Austin transferred - there is still good talent on this team, especially when you consider the lineups on the schedule...maybe 2-3 opposition coaches tops wouldn't trade rosters IMO.

(11-19-2015 03:37 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:07 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 02:36 PM)memphis88 Wrote:  Also said we've surprised a lot of folks so far (in a good way) with how hard we've played and the apparent acceptance that we are not a half court team.

Said we could potentially look up in March and conclude that AN leaving was a good thing because it meant not being forced to try to run the offense through AN in the half court (both because he was our best player so we felt like doing so was our best hope and because he's not athletic enough to play the style we are playing this season).

This post comes from ignorance. Any coach in the nation would take AN in a heartbeat this season or next including JP. We would definitely be a tourney team with him. Don't have to slow to a crawl or run half court every time to use a players with his skills. Everytime i read something along these lines just remember: we have played 2 games and AN is a very good player (like him or not).

Austin Nichols at Center on this team would have been a good thing offensively...Defensively he still would have been a liability
.

Nichols was a shot blocking machine last season.

(11-19-2015 03:57 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:37 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:07 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 02:36 PM)memphis88 Wrote:  Also said we've surprised a lot of folks so far (in a good way) with how hard we've played and the apparent acceptance that we are not a half court team.

Said we could potentially look up in March and conclude that AN leaving was a good thing because it meant not being forced to try to run the offense through AN in the half court (both because he was our best player so we felt like doing so was our best hope and because he's not athletic enough to play the style we are playing this season).

This post comes from ignorance. Any coach in the nation would take AN in a heartbeat this season or next including JP. We would definitely be a tourney team with him. Don't have to slow to a crawl or run half court every time to use a players with his skills. Everytime i read something along these lines just remember: we have played 2 games and AN is a very good player (like him or not).

Austin Nichols at Center on this team would have been a good thing offensively...Defensively he still would have been a liability
.

Nichols was a shot blocking machine last season.

Yes he was...fun as heck to watch, but sometimes I wondered how come so many shots came his way.

(11-19-2015 03:59 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:57 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:37 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:07 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 02:36 PM)memphis88 Wrote:  Also said we've surprised a lot of folks so far (in a good way) with how hard we've played and the apparent acceptance that we are not a half court team.

Said we could potentially look up in March and conclude that AN leaving was a good thing because it meant not being forced to try to run the offense through AN in the half court (both because he was our best player so we felt like doing so was our best hope and because he's not athletic enough to play the style we are playing this season).

This post comes from ignorance. Any coach in the nation would take AN in a heartbeat this season or next including JP. We would definitely be a tourney team with him. Don't have to slow to a crawl or run half court every time to use a players with his skills. Everytime i read something along these lines just remember: we have played 2 games and AN is a very good player (like him or not).

Austin Nichols at Center on this team would have been a good thing offensively...Defensively he still would have been a liability
.

Nichols was a shot blocking machine last season.

Yes he was...fun as heck to watch, but sometimes I wondered how come so many shots came his way.

For the same reasons that so many came DJ's way.

(11-19-2015 03:59 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:57 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:37 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:07 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 02:36 PM)memphis88 Wrote:  Also said we've surprised a lot of folks so far (in a good way) with how hard we've played and the apparent acceptance that we are not a half court team.

Said we could potentially look up in March and conclude that AN leaving was a good thing because it meant not being forced to try to run the offense through AN in the half court (both because he was our best player so we felt like doing so was our best hope and because he's not athletic enough to play the style we are playing this season).

This post comes from ignorance. Any coach in the nation would take AN in a heartbeat this season or next including JP. We would definitely be a tourney team with him. Don't have to slow to a crawl or run half court every time to use a players with his skills. Everytime i read something along these lines just remember: we have played 2 games and AN is a very good player (like him or not).

Austin Nichols at Center on this team would have been a good thing offensively...Defensively he still would have been a liability
.

Nichols was a shot blocking machine last season.

Yes he was...fun as heck to watch, but sometimes I wondered how come so many shots came his way.

Ole!

(11-19-2015 04:02 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:59 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:57 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:37 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:07 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  This post comes from ignorance. Any coach in the nation would take AN in a heartbeat this season or next including JP. We would definitely be a tourney team with him. Don't have to slow to a crawl or run half court every time to use a players with his skills. Everytime i read something along these lines just remember: we have played 2 games and AN is a very good player (like him or not).

Austin Nichols at Center on this team would have been a good thing offensively...Defensively he still would have been a liability
.

Nichols was a shot blocking machine last season.

Yes he was...fun as heck to watch, but sometimes I wondered how come so many shots came his way.

Ole!

(11-19-2015 02:36 PM)memphis88 Wrote:  Also said we've surprised a lot of folks so far (in a good way) with how hard we've played and the apparent acceptance that we are not a half court team.

Said we could potentially look up in March and conclude that AN leaving was a good thing because it meant not being forced to try to run the offense through AN in the half court (both because he was our best player so we felt like doing so was our best hope and because he's not athletic enough to play the style we are playing this season).

Run the offense through WHO ?

(11-19-2015 04:03 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 04:02 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:59 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:57 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:37 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Austin Nichols at Center on this team would have been a good thing offensively...Defensively he still would have been a liability
.

Nichols was a shot blocking machine last season.

Yes he was...fun as heck to watch, but sometimes I wondered how come so many shots came his way.

Ole!

Yep.

6 years and still going strong.

Let's pump the brakes...


The worst thing this team could do is start thinking they are a tourney team. What I saw the other night was a team with a chip on its shoulders....keep it.

(11-19-2015 02:50 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 02:25 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  The talent for sure is there - whether it gets developed is another matter.

If it does, thank God we got Damon Stoudamire and Daddy Lawson.
If it does not, we blame JP.

Correct?

That's the script

"because he's not athletic enough to play the style we are playing this season"

I thought he was a sure fire NBA player being held back by the coach. Now your saying that Parish says he's not athletic enough to play Memphis style basketball. How's going to make it in the NBA then?

(11-19-2015 03:57 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:37 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:07 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 02:36 PM)memphis88 Wrote:  Also said we've surprised a lot of folks so far (in a good way) with how hard we've played and the apparent acceptance that we are not a half court team.

Said we could potentially look up in March and conclude that AN leaving was a good thing because it meant not being forced to try to run the offense through AN in the half court (both because he was our best player so we felt like doing so was our best hope and because he's not athletic enough to play the style we are playing this season).

This post comes from ignorance. Any coach in the nation would take AN in a heartbeat this season or next including JP. We would definitely be a tourney team with him. Don't have to slow to a crawl or run half court every time to use a players with his skills. Everytime i read something along these lines just remember: we have played 2 games and AN is a very good player (like him or not).

Austin Nichols at Center on this team would have been a good thing offensively...Defensively he still would have been a liability
.

Nichols was a shot blocking machine last season.

How many times were we burned because his man set a screen...How many times did his man grab an offensive board...How many times did his man score on him...Normally when he blocked shots it was from help defense...Austin was horrible on ball defender and had very slow feet so anytime a switch happened we were in BIG trouble.

(11-19-2015 04:34 PM)Smith Wrote:  "because he's not athletic enough to play the style we are playing this season"

I thought he was a sure fire NBA player being held back by the coach. Now your saying that Parish says he's not athletic enough to play Memphis style basketball. How's going to make it in the NBA then?

He will be 'developed' at UVA.

(11-19-2015 04:34 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  How many times were we burned because his man set a screen...How many times did his man grab an offensive board...How many times did his man score on him...Normally when he blocked shots it was from help defense...Austin was horrible on ball defender and had very slow feet so anytime a switch happened we were in BIG trouble.

Austin was doing really well hedging on pick and rolls by the end of last season (he was doing better as a sophomore than Shaq as a junior).

Oh course if Austin switched onto a guard it created a mismatch, that the case with just about any post man. Dorsey was a great defensive player even though he couldn't guard someone on the perimeter. Post players don't need to do that.

Austin was probably our best defensive player last season.

I guess if Parrish said it, that means its true

(11-19-2015 04:37 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 04:34 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  How many times were we burned because his man set a screen...How many times did his man grab an offensive board...How many times did his man score on him...Normally when he blocked shots it was from help defense...Austin was horrible on ball defender and had very slow feet so anytime a switch happened we were in BIG trouble.

Austin was doing really well hedging on pick and rolls by the end of last season (he was doing better as a sophomore than Shaq as a junior).

Oh course if Austin switched onto a guard it created a mismatch, that the case with just about any post man. Dorsey was a great defensive player even though he couldn't guard someone on the perimeter. Post players don't need to do that.

Austin was probably our best defensive player last season.

Agree to disagree...I do not think he was even close...IMO He was not a good defender.

(11-19-2015 04:24 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 02:50 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 02:25 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  The talent for sure is there - whether it gets developed is another matter.

If it does, thank God we got Damon Stoudamire and Daddy Lawson.
If it does not, we blame JP.

Correct?

That's the script

Just like the winning percentage and the APR myth?

(11-19-2015 04:38 PM)alcalde Wrote:  I guess if Parrish said it, that means its true

Parrish just don't want his buddy mad at him