(11-19-2015 12:10 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  So ya basically we need

The AAC champ to have 4 losses (USF)
The CUSA champ to have 3 losses EXCEPT for WKY - win over Vandy
The MWC champ to have 3 losses EXCEPT for Boise St - win over Wash

OSU to win out
Buffalo to become bowl eligible
Toledo to beat WMU
BGSU to beat Ball St

sooooo. no chance then lol. that's alright, let's just win the next 3 games.

(11-19-2015 12:11 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 12:10 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  So ya basically we need

The AAC champ to have 4 losses (USF)
The CUSA champ to have 3 losses EXCEPT for WKY - win over Vandy
The MWC champ to have 3 losses EXCEPT for Boise St - win over Wash

OSU to win out
Buffalo to become bowl eligible
Toledo to beat WMU
BGSU to beat Ball St

sooooo. no chance then lol. that's alright, let's just win the next 3 games.

+10,000

(11-19-2015 12:11 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 12:10 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  So ya basically we need

The AAC champ to have 4 losses (USF)
The CUSA champ to have 3 losses EXCEPT for WKY - win over Vandy
The MWC champ to have 3 losses EXCEPT for Boise St - win over Wash

OSU to win out
Buffalo to become bowl eligible
Toledo to beat WMU
BGSU to beat Ball St

sooooo. no chance then lol. that's alright, let's just win the next 3 games.

Quitters attitude.

10-15 years ago beating Toledo and going to Macc would have been a dream season. Now we're all spoiled lol

What had to happen for NIU to make the Orange Bowl:

1) tOSU was on probation
2) Week 13: Kent wins to stay ranked
3) Week 13: Arizona State defeats #24 Arizona
4) Week 13: Washington State defeats #25 Washington
5) Week 13: #1 Notre Dame beats USC (borderline to be ranked)
6) Week 13: #5 Oregon beats #15 Oregon State
7) Week 13: #8 Stanford beats #17 UCLA
8) Week 13: #13 Oklahoma beast #21 Oklahoma State
9) Week 13: 4-6 Pittsburgh beats #18 Rutgers
10) Week 13: Ohio State beats #19 Michigan
11) Week 13: 4-6 Connecticut beats #20 Louisville
12) Week 14: we beat #17 Kent
13) Week 14: #8 Stanford beats #16 UCLA (remember watching this from Cheli's)
14) Week 14: #6 Kansas State defeats #18 Texas
15) Week 14: Wisconsin wins the Big 10 championship over #12 Nebraska *huge - guaranteeing no higher ranked 16 BIG champ*
16) Week 14: Baylor beats #23 Oklahoma State

Serious question. Would you rather.........

Have the dominoes fall right and get a NY6 bowl but likely be a 2 TD+ underdog to a team like Michigan State or Florida or Baylor etc.

OR

Play in a MAC bowl against a G5 team if you knew they were guaranteed to win

(11-19-2015 01:11 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  Serious question. Would you rather.........

Have the dominoes fall right and get a NY6 bowl but likely be a 2 TD+ underdog to a team like Michigan State or Florida or Baylor etc.

OR

Play in a MAC bowl against a G5 team if you knew they were guaranteed to win

Personally, at this point with this team, I'd take the second option.

If NIU makes a NY6 bowl, I want it to be with a strong team that has a shot to make it competitive. This team at this point...don't see that.

(11-19-2015 01:02 PM)NIUslumo Wrote:  What had to happen for NIU to make the Orange Bowl:

1) tOSU was on probation
2) Week 13: Kent wins to stay undefeated
3) Week 13: Arizona State defeats #24 Arizona
4) Week 13: Washington State defeats #25 Washington
5) Week 13: #1 Notre Dame beats USC (borderline to be ranked)
6) Week 13: #5 Oregon beats #15 Oregon State
7) Week 13: #8 Stanford beats #17 UCLA
8) Week 13: #13 Oklahoma beast #21 Oklahoma State
9) Week 13: 4-6 Pittsburgh beats #18 Rutgers
10) Week 13: Ohio State beats #19 Michigan
11) Week 13: 4-6 Connecticut beats #20 Louisville
12) Week 14: we beat undefeated Kent
13) Week 14: #8 Stanford beats #16 UCLA (remember watching this from Cheli's)
14) Week 14: #6 Kansas State defeats #18 Texas
15) Week 14: Wisconsin wins the Big 10 championship over #12 Nebraska *huge - guaranteeing no higher ranked 16 BIG champ*
16) Week 14: Baylor beats #23 Oklahoma State

Great bit of research. Thank-you.

(11-19-2015 12:10 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  So ya basically we need

The AAC champ to have 4 losses (USF)
The CUSA champ to have 3 losses EXCEPT for WKY - win over Vandy
The MWC champ to have 3 losses EXCEPT for Boise St - win over Wash

OSU to win out
Buffalo to become bowl eligible
Toledo to beat WMU
BGSU to beat Ball St

you are the mystro John.
In 2012 We saw every card fall into place.
It's NIU it can happen again.

(11-19-2015 01:02 PM)NIUslumo Wrote:  What had to happen for NIU to make the Orange Bowl:

1) tOSU was on probation
2) Week 13: Kent wins to stay undefeated
3) Week 13: Arizona State defeats #24 Arizona
4) Week 13: Washington State defeats #25 Washington
5) Week 13: #1 Notre Dame beats USC (borderline to be ranked)
6) Week 13: #5 Oregon beats #15 Oregon State
7) Week 13: #8 Stanford beats #17 UCLA
8) Week 13: #13 Oklahoma beast #21 Oklahoma State
9) Week 13: 4-6 Pittsburgh beats #18 Rutgers
10) Week 13: Ohio State beats #19 Michigan
11) Week 13: 4-6 Connecticut beats #20 Louisville
12) Week 14: we beat undefeated Kent
13) Week 14: #8 Stanford beats #16 UCLA (remember watching this from Cheli's)
14) Week 14: #6 Kansas State defeats #18 Texas
15) Week 14: Wisconsin wins the Big 10 championship over #12 Nebraska *huge - guaranteeing no higher ranked 16 BIG champ*
16) Week 14: Baylor beats #23 Oklahoma State

Nit-picking on my part, but Kent wasn't undefeated going into the MACC. They were 11-1 like NIU with a loss to Kentucky in Game 2. Still, they were ranked #17 going into MACC.

(11-19-2015 01:11 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  Serious question. Would you rather.........

Have the dominoes fall right and get a NY6 bowl but likely be a 2 TD+ underdog to a team like Michigan State or Florida or Baylor etc.

OR

Play in a MAC bowl against a G5 team if you knew they were guaranteed to win

First option.
A second major Bowl bid would put us up there with Boise State.
More important than our five season 11 win season streak.

(11-19-2015 01:11 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  Serious question. Would you rather.........

Have the dominoes fall right and get a NY6 bowl but likely be a 2 TD+ underdog to a team like Michigan State or Florida or Baylor etc.

OR

Play in a MAC bowl against a G5 team if you knew they were guaranteed to win

I would take the NY6 bowl. I believe we can play with anyone (look at OSU game). We may not win but the exposure and building the reputation will go a long way to helping us with our long term goal of leaving the MAC (not to mention the bigger payday)

I'd take the second option. I don't see Ryan Graham beating an elite P5 team.

(11-19-2015 01:22 PM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 01:02 PM)NIUslumo Wrote:  What had to happen for NIU to make the Orange Bowl:

1) tOSU was on probation
2) Week 13: Kent wins to stay undefeated
3) Week 13: Arizona State defeats #24 Arizona
4) Week 13: Washington State defeats #25 Washington
5) Week 13: #1 Notre Dame beats USC (borderline to be ranked)
6) Week 13: #5 Oregon beats #15 Oregon State
7) Week 13: #8 Stanford beats #17 UCLA
8) Week 13: #13 Oklahoma beast #21 Oklahoma State
9) Week 13: 4-6 Pittsburgh beats #18 Rutgers
10) Week 13: Ohio State beats #19 Michigan
11) Week 13: 4-6 Connecticut beats #20 Louisville
12) Week 14: we beat undefeated Kent
13) Week 14: #8 Stanford beats #16 UCLA (remember watching this from Cheli's)
14) Week 14: #6 Kansas State defeats #18 Texas
15) Week 14: Wisconsin wins the Big 10 championship over #12 Nebraska *huge - guaranteeing no higher ranked 16 BIG champ*
16) Week 14: Baylor beats #23 Oklahoma State

Nit-picking on my part, but Kent wasn't undefeated going into the MACC. They were 11-1 like NIU with a loss to Kentucky in Game 2. Still, they were ranked #17 going into MACC.

*fixed thanks

(11-19-2015 01:31 PM)Mark26pt2 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 01:11 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  Serious question. Would you rather.........

Have the dominoes fall right and get a NY6 bowl but likely be a 2 TD+ underdog to a team like Michigan State or Florida or Baylor etc.

OR

Play in a MAC bowl against a G5 team if you knew they were guaranteed to win

I would take the NY6 bowl. I believe we can play with anyone (look at OSU game). We may not win but the exposure and building the reputation will go a long way to helping us with our long term goal of leaving the MAC (not to mention the bigger payday)

Exactly, not to mention re-energize the fan base, donor base, etc. Frazier's conference presentation all but came out and said a 2nd Access Bowl is monumental in advancing conferences for many reasons, if you look at his comparison schools.

Access bowl. That should help to finish off the silent phase of the premium East structure along with selling naming rights to Huskie Stadium.

(11-19-2015 02:11 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Access bowl. That should help to finish off the silent phase of the premium East structure along with selling naming rights to Huskie Stadium.

Sure would.

(11-19-2015 01:27 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 01:11 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  Serious question. Would you rather.........

Have the dominoes fall right and get a NY6 bowl but likely be a 2 TD+ underdog to a team like Michigan State or Florida or Baylor etc.

OR

Play in a MAC bowl against a G5 team if you knew they were guaranteed to win

First option.
A second major Bowl bid would put us up there with Boise State.
More important than our five season 11 win season streak.

People already call NIU "Boise-Lite"

I heard that phrase casually tossed around quite often at tOSU. Their fans were surprisingly cordial and showered NIU with praise both before and after the game.

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Also wouldnt it be better if Cinci won the AAC? I think we have a better resume than Cinci... that'd pretty much be handing us the G5 spot

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(11-19-2015 02:28 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  Also wouldnt it be better if Cinci won the AAC? I think we have a better resume than Cinci... that'd pretty much be handing us the G5 spot

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Yes, UC or even UCONN are also still in it for the AAC East. It is only good for NIU if they could beat Houston/Navy in the championship.