where is the recruiting info....

(11-19-2015 04:11 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  where is the recruiting info....

Check who the op is. That should explain all.

(11-19-2015 04:05 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:21 PM)bigbob Wrote:  

(11-18-2015 06:34 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 08:45 PM)bigbob Wrote:  What are the neg nine (I previously capitalized at least the first letters, but the negs are SO diminished now) to do now?

Dedric: 22/15/5/3......against the #8 team.

And the game went to the wire with Lon Kruger and announcers proclaiming Memphis to be "well coached".

What will the nine talk about from now on?

It's obvious you didn't attend the game since you know what the ESPN guys said. Don't live here do you ? Why do I get the feeling that you don't even live in the US?



Hmmmm

Moron. Ever heard of replay?

Ok I'll play.

The game didn't end until around 6:30

Yet you were already posting on here within an hour of the game ending about how the announcers were in love with Pastner?


Busted

The only thing "busted" is flat and flatulent intellect of you neg nine;
Or "Al et al" which seems to flow well.

Here are few thoughts:

One can own property downtown (I do)

Friends often call to comment on how Memphis is received by announcers

You morons cannot argue that such commentary did in fact take place, you limp toward some peripheral moronic tripe

And you lose as always

(11-20-2015 07:24 PM)bigbob Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 04:05 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 03:21 PM)bigbob Wrote:  

(11-18-2015 06:34 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 08:45 PM)bigbob Wrote:  What are the neg nine (I previously capitalized at least the first letters, but the negs are SO diminished now) to do now?

Dedric: 22/15/5/3......against the #8 team.

And the game went to the wire with Lon Kruger and announcers proclaiming Memphis to be "well coached".

What will the nine talk about from now on?

It's obvious you didn't attend the game since you know what the ESPN guys said. Don't live here do you ? Why do I get the feeling that you don't even live in the US?



Hmmmm

Moron. Ever heard of replay?

Ok I'll play.

The game didn't end until around 6:30

Yet you were already posting on here within an hour of the game ending about how the announcers were in love with Pastner?


Busted

The only thing "busted" is flat and flatulent intellect of you neg nine;
Or "Al et al" which seems to flow well.

Here are few thoughts:

One can own property downtown (I do)

Friends often call to comment on how Memphis is received by announcers

You morons cannot argue that such commentary did in fact take place, you limp toward some peripheral moronic tripe

And you lose as always

You said you heard it on the replay above...Which one is it.

Seems like you are changing stories which really kills your cred.

He may have been looking up to his phone.

(11-17-2015 08:45 PM)bigbob Wrote:  What are the neg nine (I previously capitalized at least the first letters, but the negs are SO diminished now) to do now?

Dedric: 22/15/5/3......against the #8 team.

And the game went to the wire with Lon Kruger and announcers proclaiming Memphis to be "well coached".

What will the nine talk about from now on?

You're delusional. U actually think people on here pull against Memphis during games so they can have more material for a message board. U may actually care more about being right or saying told you so to some message board stranger you will prob never meet but I think everyone here wants to win every game and see the new guys light it up. It excites Tiger fans to see how promising some of these players look and the prospects for this team going forwards. It's great to see.

Why try to still pick fights about a recruiting class that happened over a year ago. Let it go. Besides nobody complained about this class with the Lawson's, Tarrant, Nick Marshall, Jeremiah Martin, Craig Randall, Randall Broddie, and I'm missing somebody? Anyways it was this class now that concerned people we had zero commitments for awhile there and there are not that many good players left that we are actually in on so there is a reason for concern.

I still don't understand how u draw the conclusion from someone being concerned about next years recruiting class to assuming they actively pull against players so they will be right on a msg board? Lol I mean are serious. U are wrong sometimes just like the rest of us. I could prob go back and find some opinion u had that has been proven wrong. If u have lots of opinions and ideas you are going to be wrong sometimes that's life. It is what it is. I would much rather the Tigers succeed than for me to be right.

We all have opinions and ideas it's a message board that's the point but in the end we all want Memphis to win every game and for our players to excel and be better than we thought. I would rather be wrong in saying this kid will not be good for us and he turns out to be a big part of the team. I'm more invested in the tigers winning than I am being right or wrong on a message board. Even after saying all that the point is we are all Tiger fans we may not agree on a lot but we can agree on one thing we want to win, So can we at least agree on that?

Btw we were not talking about the Lawson's class when we were worried about recruiting it was the next class where we got two signed now. One juco and pg from Chicago Charlie Moore. I'll give Pastner credit on getting Moore although he basically said Stoudamire was a big part of his decision but Pastner hired Damon so he still gets the credit. We still need two or three more guys in the late period to sign I just don't feel good about who's left unless we can get another grad transfer like Tarrant, Godfrey and a few others I believe we have had. Pastner seems to get good grad transfers who come in a fill a need so we will see but there will be no top fifty players or
NBA types in this class it will be role players who we hope can contribute. Anyways glad I could clear that up now it's as clear as mud.?

(11-21-2015 12:16 PM)jason80 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 08:45 PM)bigbob Wrote:  What are the neg nine (I previously capitalized at least the first letters, but the negs are SO diminished now) to do now?

Dedric: 22/15/5/3......against the #8 team.

And the game went to the wire with Lon Kruger and announcers proclaiming Memphis to be "well coached".

What will the nine talk about from now on?

You're delusional. U actually think people on here pull against Memphis during games so they can have more material for a message board. U may actually care more about being right or saying told you so to some message board stranger you will prob never meet but I think everyone here wants to win every game and see the new guys light it up. It excites Tiger fans to see how promising some of these players look and the prospects for this team going forwards. It's great to see.

Why try to still pick fights about a recruiting class that happened over a year ago. Let it go. Besides nobody complained about this class with the Lawson's, Tarrant, Nick Marshall, Jeremiah Martin, Craig Randall, Randall Broddie, and I'm missing somebody? Anyways it was this class now that concerned people we had zero commitments for awhile there and there are not that many good players left that we are actually in on so there is a reason for concern.

I still don't understand how u draw the conclusion from someone being concerned about next years recruiting class to assuming they actively pull against players so they will be right on a msg board? Lol I mean are serious. U are wrong sometimes just like the rest of us. I could prob go back and find some opinion u had that has been proven wrong. If u have lots of opinions and ideas you are going to be wrong sometimes that's life. It is what it is. I would much rather the Tigers succeed than for me to be right.

We all have opinions and ideas it's a message board that's the point but in the end we all want Memphis to win every game and for our players to excel and be better than we thought. I would rather be wrong in saying this kid will not be good for us and he turns out to be a big part of the team. I'm more invested in the tigers winning than I am being right or wrong on a message board. Even after saying all that the point is we are all Tiger fans we may not agree on a lot but we can agree on one thing we want to win, So can we at least agree on that?

Btw we were not talking about the Lawson's class when we were worried about recruiting it was the next class where we got two signed now. One juco and pg from Chicago Charlie Moore. I'll give Pastner credit on getting Moore although he basically said Stoudamire was a big part of his decision but Pastner hired Damon so he still gets the credit. We still need two or three more guys in the late period to sign I just don't feel good about who's left unless we can get another grad transfer like Tarrant, Godfrey and a few others I believe we have had. Pastner seems to get good grad transfers who come in a fill a need so we will see but there will be no top fifty players or
NBA types in this class it will be role players who we hope can contribute. Anyways glad I could clear that up now it's as clear as mud.?

With all due respect Sir, mud would be a generous metric on the thought conveyance of your narrative.

Perhaps you read here infrequently?

There is a small vociferous band of anti-Pastner posters here who seemingly live to disparage Pastner mostly from peripherally weak premises and with conclusions rarely drawn from facts.

There is legitimate concern that The U of M has not seen the Sweet 16 with Josh and---as with every other major program--the onus is on his anus to get us there.

Wins against ranked opponents is legitimate criticism.

But the "Al et al" crowd doesn't stop there; they DO celebrate any weak premise to attack Pastner as clueless, an idiot, etc.....moving to poor recruiting (really??!) and other such nonsense.

Facts:

In 6 years--noting Pastner deserved a "pass" for the first year if ANY coach ever did--Pastner has won 72% of games, has 2 conf championships,
3 conf tournament trophies, recruited Top
15 for the period.

Recruiting for 2015 changed with AN leaving and others being discharged since they simply didn't have it".

What Pastner did was skillful in bringing Marshall and Dedric into 2015.....and already has 2 Top 100 recruits.

Whatever criticism there is to leveled at Josh, recruiting ain't it.

Josh is 38. That's younger than when Calipari got here and it took Cal 5 years before hitting with Laurenberg Prep + Derrick.

And when the NCAA "rose" up, the banners came down with probation left.

That's why the administration and major donors are fully committed to Josh.

The administration and boosters are going to make a coaching change at the end of the year.

not a question so much if josh can recruit; it's obviously his coaching skills that's the weak link. although, that won't continue to be the case if he can't win

if josh actually makes the curve and shows us he's getting it as a coach, why not keep him?

(11-22-2015 01:54 PM)bigbob Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 12:16 PM)jason80 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 08:45 PM)bigbob Wrote:  What are the neg nine (I previously capitalized at least the first letters, but the negs are SO diminished now) to do now?

Dedric: 22/15/5/3......against the #8 team.

And the game went to the wire with Lon Kruger and announcers proclaiming Memphis to be "well coached".

What will the nine talk about from now on?

You're delusional. U actually think people on here pull against Memphis during games so they can have more material for a message board. U may actually care more about being right or saying told you so to some message board stranger you will prob never meet but I think everyone here wants to win every game and see the new guys light it up. It excites Tiger fans to see how promising some of these players look and the prospects for this team going forwards. It's great to see.

Why try to still pick fights about a recruiting class that happened over a year ago. Let it go. Besides nobody complained about this class with the Lawson's, Tarrant, Nick Marshall, Jeremiah Martin, Craig Randall, Randall Broddie, and I'm missing somebody? Anyways it was this class now that concerned people we had zero commitments for awhile there and there are not that many good players left that we are actually in on so there is a reason for concern.

I still don't understand how u draw the conclusion from someone being concerned about next years recruiting class to assuming they actively pull against players so they will be right on a msg board? Lol I mean are serious. U are wrong sometimes just like the rest of us. I could prob go back and find some opinion u had that has been proven wrong. If u have lots of opinions and ideas you are going to be wrong sometimes that's life. It is what it is. I would much rather the Tigers succeed than for me to be right.

We all have opinions and ideas it's a message board that's the point but in the end we all want Memphis to win every game and for our players to excel and be better than we thought. I would rather be wrong in saying this kid will not be good for us and he turns out to be a big part of the team. I'm more invested in the tigers winning than I am being right or wrong on a message board. Even after saying all that the point is we are all Tiger fans we may not agree on a lot but we can agree on one thing we want to win, So can we at least agree on that?

Btw we were not talking about the Lawson's class when we were worried about recruiting it was the next class where we got two signed now. One juco and pg from Chicago Charlie Moore. I'll give Pastner credit on getting Moore although he basically said Stoudamire was a big part of his decision but Pastner hired Damon so he still gets the credit. We still need two or three more guys in the late period to sign I just don't feel good about who's left unless we can get another grad transfer like Tarrant, Godfrey and a few others I believe we have had. Pastner seems to get good grad transfers who come in a fill a need so we will see but there will be no top fifty players or
NBA types in this class it will be role players who we hope can contribute. Anyways glad I could clear that up now it's as clear as mud.?

With all due respect Sir, mud would be a generous metric on the thought conveyance of your narrative.

Perhaps you read here infrequently?

There is a small vociferous band of anti-Pastner posters here who seemingly live to disparage Pastner mostly from peripherally weak premises and with conclusions rarely drawn from facts.

There is legitimate concern that The U of M has not seen the Sweet 16 with Josh and---as with every other major program--the onus is on his anus to get us there.

Wins against ranked opponents is legitimate criticism.

But the "Al et al" crowd doesn't stop there; they DO celebrate any weak premise to attack Pastner as clueless, an idiot, etc.....moving to poor recruiting (really??!) and other such nonsense.

Facts:

In 6 years--noting Pastner deserved a "pass" for the first year if ANY coach ever did--Pastner has won 72% of games, has 2 conf championships,
3 conf tournament trophies, recruited Top
15 for the period.

Recruiting for 2015 changed with AN leaving and others being discharged since they simply didn't have it".

What Pastner did was skillful in bringing Marshall and Dedric into 2015.....and already has 2 Top 100 recruits.

Whatever criticism there is to leveled at Josh, recruiting ain't it.

Josh is 38. That's younger than when Calipari got here and it took Cal 5 years before hitting with Laurenberg Prep + Derrick.

And when the NCAA "rose" up, the banners came down with probation left.

That's why the administration and major donors are fully committed to Josh.

you said every dropped season ticket would be snapped up

you said that there is a neg nine against Pastner..

if tickets have been snapped up why is attendance off 6,000 per game at least?

do you contend that each of the neg nine has over 500 tickets ? and that they are purposefully not using the tickets they purchased?


also, you do realize that inflammatory posts like yours actually brings out more Pastner Bashing?

most real fans are like me, we realize Pastner can't coach and that this is his last year, we are content to wait it out another year ....until we see posts criticizing our players and fans in order to support an impotent coach.

I and everyone else should ignore the sad people that have put Pastner over the program ...

(11-22-2015 01:54 PM)bigbob Wrote:  There is legitimate concern that The U of M has not seen the Sweet 16 with Josh and---as with every other major program--the onus is on his anus to get us there.

Wins against ranked opponents is legitimate criticism.

That's how you do it. More effective to argue a point if you acknowledge the general legitimacy of your opposing view. I'm so proud.

(11-22-2015 01:54 PM)bigbob Wrote:  Facts:

In 6 years--noting Pastner deserved a "pass" for the first year if ANY coach ever did--Pastner has won 72% of games, has 2 conf championships,
3 conf tournament trophies, recruited Top
15 for the period.

Recruiting for 2015 changed with AN leaving and others being discharged since they simply didn't have it".

What Pastner did was skillful in bringing Marshall and Dedric into 2015.....and already has 2 Top 100 recruits.

Whatever criticism there is to leveled at Josh, recruiting ain't it.

Josh is 38. That's younger than when Calipari got here and it took Cal 5 years before hitting with Laurenberg Prep + Derrick.

And when the NCAA "rose" up, the banners came down with probation left.

These are mostly facts. I will quibble that getting local guys to stay by hiring the Dad is not a long term strategy, but I will credit JP as being smart enough to make it work and knowing it is worth it.

And yes, the most effective person on Cal's teams was whoever was in the Laurenberg Prep class. Antonio is probably one of our most important recruits ever for his toughness. That class enabled Cal's stars (Rose/Evans) to have the hardnosed teammates you need to win.

The 2001 Wagner team was the exact inverse of above.

(11-22-2015 01:54 PM)bigbob Wrote:  That's why the administration and major donors are fully committed to Josh.

Here is where you lose me. There are two things that you do as a poster that are odd (actually the rest is fine man).

1. You tend to insult those that disagree with you even mildly. It's not attractive and frankly is beneath a poster who can make larger points as you do above. This post cuts this down a lot.

2. You seem to take your knowledge of the boosters / admin (which I actually believe you have for reasons I won't get into) and assume it is universal. Bob, my man, I don't doubt your take, but I doubt heavily you know the thoughts and motives of every major player in the decision tree.

a. You assumedly aren't a mind reader, so it is reasonable to believe that your fellow influential types might simply not tell you all what they think if they know you back Pastner, simply since it might be needlessly contentious.

b. Even the most influential booster probably doesn't know everything. I bet you know a ton, but short of all.

Still, this post is improved.
6/10. trending up.
Carry on.

(11-22-2015 02:47 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  also, you do realize that inflammatory posts like yours actually brings out more Pastner Bashing?

And that is the flip side.

Ned is right, argue the point, not the person.

It's more fun and useful that way.

(11-22-2015 02:47 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-22-2015 01:54 PM)bigbob Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 12:16 PM)jason80 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 08:45 PM)bigbob Wrote:  What are the neg nine (I previously capitalized at least the first letters, but the negs are SO diminished now) to do now?

Dedric: 22/15/5/3......against the #8 team.

And the game went to the wire with Lon Kruger and announcers proclaiming Memphis to be "well coached".

What will the nine talk about from now on?

You're delusional. U actually think people on here pull against Memphis during games so they can have more material for a message board. U may actually care more about being right or saying told you so to some message board stranger you will prob never meet but I think everyone here wants to win every game and see the new guys light it up. It excites Tiger fans to see how promising some of these players look and the prospects for this team going forwards. It's great to see.

Why try to still pick fights about a recruiting class that happened over a year ago. Let it go. Besides nobody complained about this class with the Lawson's, Tarrant, Nick Marshall, Jeremiah Martin, Craig Randall, Randall Broddie, and I'm missing somebody? Anyways it was this class now that concerned people we had zero commitments for awhile there and there are not that many good players left that we are actually in on so there is a reason for concern.

I still don't understand how u draw the conclusion from someone being concerned about next years recruiting class to assuming they actively pull against players so they will be right on a msg board? Lol I mean are serious. U are wrong sometimes just like the rest of us. I could prob go back and find some opinion u had that has been proven wrong. If u have lots of opinions and ideas you are going to be wrong sometimes that's life. It is what it is. I would much rather the Tigers succeed than for me to be right.

We all have opinions and ideas it's a message board that's the point but in the end we all want Memphis to win every game and for our players to excel and be better than we thought. I would rather be wrong in saying this kid will not be good for us and he turns out to be a big part of the team. I'm more invested in the tigers winning than I am being right or wrong on a message board. Even after saying all that the point is we are all Tiger fans we may not agree on a lot but we can agree on one thing we want to win, So can we at least agree on that?

Btw we were not talking about the Lawson's class when we were worried about recruiting it was the next class where we got two signed now. One juco and pg from Chicago Charlie Moore. I'll give Pastner credit on getting Moore although he basically said Stoudamire was a big part of his decision but Pastner hired Damon so he still gets the credit. We still need two or three more guys in the late period to sign I just don't feel good about who's left unless we can get another grad transfer like Tarrant, Godfrey and a few others I believe we have had. Pastner seems to get good grad transfers who come in a fill a need so we will see but there will be no top fifty players or
NBA types in this class it will be role players who we hope can contribute. Anyways glad I could clear that up now it's as clear as mud.?

With all due respect Sir, mud would be a generous metric on the thought conveyance of your narrative.

Perhaps you read here infrequently?

There is a small vociferous band of anti-Pastner posters here who seemingly live to disparage Pastner mostly from peripherally weak premises and with conclusions rarely drawn from facts.

There is legitimate concern that The U of M has not seen the Sweet 16 with Josh and---as with every other major program--the onus is on his anus to get us there.

Wins against ranked opponents is legitimate criticism.

But the "Al et al" crowd doesn't stop there; they DO celebrate any weak premise to attack Pastner as clueless, an idiot, etc.....moving to poor recruiting (really??!) and other such nonsense.

Facts:

In 6 years--noting Pastner deserved a "pass" for the first year if ANY coach ever did--Pastner has won 72% of games, has 2 conf championships,
3 conf tournament trophies, recruited Top
15 for the period.

Recruiting for 2015 changed with AN leaving and others being discharged since they simply didn't have it".

What Pastner did was skillful in bringing Marshall and Dedric into 2015.....and already has 2 Top 100 recruits.

Whatever criticism there is to leveled at Josh, recruiting ain't it.

Josh is 38. That's younger than when Calipari got here and it took Cal 5 years before hitting with Laurenberg Prep + Derrick.

And when the NCAA "rose" up, the banners came down with probation left.

That's why the administration and major donors are fully committed to Josh.

you said every dropped season ticket would be snapped up

you said that there is a neg nine against Pastner..

if tickets have been snapped up why is attendance off 6,000 per game at least?

do you contend that each of the neg nine has over 500 tickets ? and that they are purposefully not using the tickets they purchased?


also, you do realize that inflammatory posts like yours actually brings out more Pastner Bashing?

most real fans are like me, we realize Pastner can't coach and that this is his last year, we are content to wait it out another year ....until we see posts criticizing our players and fans in order to support an impotent coach.

I and everyone else should ignore the sad people that have put Pastner over the program ...

Just out of curiosity. Now that the football team has lost three straight games, do most fans realize the football coach can't coach also? Since the attendance at the next football is likely to be 30,000 or more less than the Ole Miss game?

The difference between Pastner and Fuente are massive and quite tangible.
Fuente has proven he can develop players. He's built a program from basically nothing. He puts players in positions to be successful. His scemes are dynamic offensively. He knows how to handle his players, commands their respect and gets the best effort they have. He has a proven system and has taught his players how to run it and how to be successful doing it. When he speaks publicly or privately, you know your listening to a strong coach who knows exactly what he's doing. He's one of the hottest and most coveted young football coaches in the game.

Josh is none of those things. I asked people a year ago to name one thing, just one thing, that Pastner does well as a floor coach and I got no responses. None.

The difference between Fuente and Josh are simply night and day.

(11-22-2015 08:52 PM)450bench Wrote:  The difference between Pastner and Fuente are massive and quite tangible.
Fuente has proven he can develop players. He's built a program from basically nothing. He puts players in positions to be successful. His scemes are dynamic offensively. He knows how to handle his players, commands their respect and gets the best effort they have. He has a proven system and has taught his players how to run it and how to be successful doing it. When he speaks publicly or privately, you know your listening to a strong coach who knows exactly what he's doing. He's one of the hottest and most coveted young football coaches in the game.

Josh is none of those things. I asked people a year ago to name one thing, just one thing, that Pastner does well as a floor coach and I got no responses. None.

The difference between Fuente and Josh are simply night and day.

I like Pastner personally but you are absolutely right in your assessment of him as a head coach. Sad but true.

Signing Austin Nichols ended up doing Josh worse than better...too bad.

(11-25-2015 10:42 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(11-22-2015 08:52 PM)450bench Wrote:  The difference between Pastner and Fuente are massive and quite tangible.
Fuente has proven he can develop players. He's built a program from basically nothing. He puts players in positions to be successful. His scemes are dynamic offensively. He knows how to handle his players, commands their respect and gets the best effort they have. He has a proven system and has taught his players how to run it and how to be successful doing it. When he speaks publicly or privately, you know your listening to a strong coach who knows exactly what he's doing. He's one of the hottest and most coveted young football coaches in the game.

Josh is none of those things. I asked people a year ago to name one thing, just one thing, that Pastner does well as a floor coach and I got no responses. None.

The difference between Fuente and Josh are simply night and day.

I like Pastner personally but you are absolutely right in your assessment of him as a head coach. Sad but true.

I'm starting to not like him personally with all the "mistruths" he's told lately

I agree Bluto.

(11-26-2015 12:15 PM)450bench Wrote:  I agree Bluto.

What "misstruths" Bluto and 450 bench. You two seem to know more than anybody else on this board so tell me. I am willing to listen but don't say somebody's mistruths without backing it up.

(11-26-2015 04:57 PM)2tigers Wrote:  

(11-26-2015 12:15 PM)450bench Wrote:  I agree Bluto.

What "misstruths" Bluto and 450 bench. You two seem to know more than anybody else on this board so tell me. I am willing to listen but don't say somebody's mistruths without backing it up.

If I told you I'd have to kill ya