(11-17-2015 08:50 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: (11-17-2015 05:39 PM)ohio1317 Wrote: "A truce was called in the "Battle of Ohio" in late April after Ohio University President Robert Glidden and Ohio State University President William Kirwan reached an agreement in the 16-month trademark dispute between the two schools. Following talks between Glidden and Kirwan, Ohio State agreed to drop its challenge of Ohio Universityís federal trademark of the word "OHIO."
The agreement gives Ohio University exclusive rights to "OHIO" for athletic uniforms, apparel and merchandise, but allows Ohio State to use the word in certain traditional instances, such as "Script Ohio," Ohio Stadium and for commemorative merchandise"
OU had the upper hand in the legal fight, but there was no way they were going to end up forcing Ohio State to drop all things it had been using Ohio for decades. The time had long passed for that.
OU is Ohio, but if a little kid says he wants Ohio to beat Michigan, everyone knows what he means and no one tells him he's wrong. The term might belong firstly to OU (as it should), but it does not and should not exclusively. No one is going to start calling Ohio State just Ohio in the news or on forums, but in the limited ways it is, it's perfectly acceptable.
you live in a fantasy world where everything revolves around your favorite bandwagon school. bet you've never even taken a class in Columbus.
The reality is your school refers to itself by the name of another school that is 65 years older and is well established and respectable in its own right.
You should be embarrassed and ashamed of this error but if you were able to feel either of those emotions you wouldn't be a Suckeye fan.
1. I've made no attempt to insult Ohio University or anyone else here.
2. I am a graduate (both bachelors and masters) of Ohio State. I have little school pride (colleges make plenty of people money while too often while selling kids on majors with few jobs prospects and a ton of debt; they aren't worth loyalty in my mind), but I love rooting for Ohio teams. While Ohio State is my favorite, I do root for Ohio MAC schools in general as well. Despite general Big Ten pride, I was rooting strongly for Bowling Green vs. Maryland this year as one example.
3. Ohio University is Ohio for athletic purposes. I'm conceding that and not fighting it. If your school name is just the name of the state though, you do not get exclusive right to the term in every facet. Schools pump up the aspects of themselves that get people excited. Buffalo puts "New York" in bigger letters than Buffalo, despite there being many schools that could make the same claim. Temple pushes being Philadelphia's college football team despite not having the name Philadelphia in the name. Louisiana-Lafayette just puts Louisiana on a lot despite legally only being able to be Louisiana-Lafayette (at least by some accounts and that seems to be backed up by ESPN and the Sun Belt referring to them as Louisiana-Lafayette). I've seen schools like Marshall or Virginia Tech bands make the state outlines. Plenty of MAC schools, come out with Ohio flags blazing.
Ohio State is followed widely throughout the state and if it chooses to use just the term Ohio in a few places (none of them new for the record), it is not a slam on Ohio, nor is it significantly different than the above examples. It is a celebration of state pride and Ohio State's history in it. I understand some OU alums will be miffed by it, but the agreement between OU and OSU was fair as it was legitimately middle ground. OSU backed off some of it's history of just using Ohio, but kept the most important parts and OU was fully recognized as Ohio.
4. While acknowledging all of the above, neither school is going by their real names. The real names are The Ohio State University and Ohio University. Given modern naming conventions, the shortened versions are Ohio State and Ohio, but an early 20th century Ohio State fanbase wasn't going to find anything odd about calling Ohio State just Ohio as a) college athletics were a much smaller deal and thus they weren't going to worry about conflicting claims all that much, b) Ohio State and Ohio rarely played, and c) Ohio State played in the Big Ten, where the vast majority of school went by just their state name and no one else used the word "state" (neither Michigan State nor Penn State were in the conference). In that set-up, it would have felt natural for many to think of the Buckeyes as Ohio.
None of the above diminishes Ohio Universities claim as Ohio, but it does show how Ohio State could develop a history with the term too and it seems fair to accept that traditions developed in that time (the stadium, the alma mater, fight songs, chants, etc.) be accepted even if Ohio University is the one accepted as Ohio.
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