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UC Sets Program Attendance Record
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The Cincinnati Bearcats football program has shattered its previous average attendance records, both at Nippert Stadium and in general. Even in 2010, when UC drew 58, 000+ for an off-site game versus Oklahoma and saw then-record season ticket sales in the wake of a 12-1 season, the Bearcats still averaged less than 36,000 fans a game. UC drew over 35,000 fans for its final 2015 home game against Tulsa, marking the fifth home game in which attendance reached the 35,000 figure that was the previous capacity of Nippert.
UC Football Attendance By Game in 2015:
UConn – 40,124 (sell-out)
Miami (FL) – 40,101 (sell-out)
Alabama A&M – 39,095
Temple – 38,112
Tulsa – 35,015
Central Florida – 30,131
2015 season average: 37,096
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
I was at every home game, first time that has ever happened.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
Yeah, well there was nowhere close to 35,000 at that game. Sure they go by tickets sold, but even that is dubious. Still can't figure out how they get to 40,100 capacity.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
Now that the season is over you could always go to Nippert and count every seat.
Who the hell cares as long as the dollars come in. If they announced a crowd of 200 but brought in the same money as a sold out announcement, what difference does it make?
Happy counting.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
(11-17-2015 02:24 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote: Yeah, well there was nowhere close to 35,000 at that game. Sure they go by tickets sold, but even that is dubious. Still can't figure out how they get to 40,100 capacity.
I don't think the university stretched it very far. We had a very strong crowd in the 1st quarter. Definitely more than what we drew for UCF. From my vantage point every section had bodies in it with a few empty seats here and there. The issue was a good chunk of people left after halftime and by the middle/end of the third quarter there was hardly any one left.
Here is one shot I found illustrating the crowd on the west side of the stadium.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
I think the 35k number for the Tulsa game was pretty accurate. Crowd arrived late, but there were not a whole lot of empty seats during the 2nd quarter.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
(11-17-2015 02:33 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: (11-17-2015 02:24 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote: Yeah, well there was nowhere close to 35,000 at that game. Sure they go by tickets sold, but even that is dubious. Still can't figure out how they get to 40,100 capacity.
I don't think the university stretched it very far. We had a very strong crowd in the 1st quarter. Definitely more than what we drew for UCF. From my vantage point every section had bodies in it with a few empty seats here and there. The issue was a good chunk of people left after halftime and by the middle/end of the third quarter there was hardly any one left.
Here is one shot I found illustrating the crowd on the west side of the stadium.
I couldn't tell but it felt like a bigger crowd than the UCF game. The upper visitor sections (214 and 215) were much fuller than I thought which is often times a barometer that I use to judge the crowd. It's important to remember that the high point for attendance (in this case 35k) doesn't last for very long. It hits the peak some time late in the 1st quarter and by halftime starts trailing off sharply. 35k doesn't feel out of line to me necessarily.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
(11-17-2015 02:33 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: (11-17-2015 02:24 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote: Yeah, well there was nowhere close to 35,000 at that game. Sure they go by tickets sold, but even that is dubious. Still can't figure out how they get to 40,100 capacity.
I don't think the university stretched it very far. We had a very strong crowd in the 1st quarter. Definitely more than what we drew for UCF. From my vantage point every section had bodies in it with a few empty seats here and there. The issue was a good chunk of people left after halftime and by the middle/end of the third quarter there was hardly any one left.
Here is one shot I found illustrating the crowd on the west side of the stadium.
The lower level west side was fuller than the east side.
That said, it was a nice crowd for a chilly night with Tulsa. But it wasn't 35,000.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
(11-17-2015 02:38 PM)subflea Wrote: I think the 35k number for the Tulsa game was pretty accurate. Crowd arrived late, but there were not a whole lot of empty seats during the 2nd quarter.
Sounds right to me too and that's a good picture of it. Good season for attendance...hope it continues.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
(11-17-2015 02:31 PM)Bearcat Otto Wrote: Now that the season is over you could always go to Nippert and count every seat.
Who the hell cares as long as the dollars come in. If they announced a crowd of 200 but brought in the same money as a sold out announcement, what difference does it make?
Happy counting.
I dunno, people pay for empty seats for only so long. Empty seats don't pay for parking and they don't buy beer and food.
Only a dumb*** would have to count every seat, so I wonder why you consider that a viable option. 35,000 and change was the pre-renovation capacity. 15 sections in the lower level club, roughly 11 rows, 11 seats each...let's generously call that 2,000. You come up with the other 3,100. Unless they're counting the help, journalists and whatever, I don't see how they make it to 40,000. I'm guessing around 37,500-38,000 minus whatever they subtract out for soccer, when that happens. But there's no way they added 5,000 seats in the renovation.
This board has spent years making fun of Pitt, now we're kind of doing the same thing.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
I'm hoping the 2014 crowds of 25k for Memphis , 24k for Houston and 19k for ECU are a thing forever in the past . I know that was PBS and weather influenced. I see our floor now as being 30k.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
(11-17-2015 02:47 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: (11-17-2015 02:38 PM)subflea Wrote: I think the 35k number for the Tulsa game was pretty accurate. Crowd arrived late, but there were not a whole lot of empty seats during the 2nd quarter.
Sounds right to me too and that's a good picture of it. Good season for attendance...hope it continues.
Show a clear pic of the club seats, and the east side and get back with us.
Like I said, decent attendance for a game with Tulsa on a chilly night, but not 35,000.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
(11-17-2015 02:53 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote: I'm hoping the 2014 crowds of 25k for Memphis , 24k for Houston and 19k for ECU are a thing forever in the past . I know that was PBS and weather influenced. I see our floor now as being 30k.
Barring a meltdown, next year should be better than this year. There should be five legitimate near-sellouts.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
(11-17-2015 02:59 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote: (11-17-2015 02:53 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote: I'm hoping the 2014 crowds of 25k for Memphis , 24k for Houston and 19k for ECU are a thing forever in the past . I know that was PBS and weather influenced. I see our floor now as being 30k.
Barring a meltdown, next year should be better than this year. There should be five legitimate near-sellouts.
I would agree that the upward trend will continue. When you say five big crowds, are you referencing specific opponents? I know BYU is coming here but I didn't know about AAC West foes returning to Nippert next season.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
(11-17-2015 03:14 PM)OKIcat Wrote: (11-17-2015 02:59 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote: (11-17-2015 02:53 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote: I'm hoping the 2014 crowds of 25k for Memphis , 24k for Houston and 19k for ECU are a thing forever in the past . I know that was PBS and weather influenced. I see our floor now as being 30k.
Barring a meltdown, next year should be better than this year. There should be five legitimate near-sellouts.
I would agree that the upward trend will continue. When you say five big crowds, are you referencing specific opponents? I know BYU is coming here but I didn't know about AAC West foes returning to Nippert next season.
BYU, Memphis, Houston, Miami OH...and I think ECU is the other one. Can't remember without looking.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
(11-17-2015 02:52 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote: (11-17-2015 02:31 PM)Bearcat Otto Wrote: Now that the season is over you could always go to Nippert and count every seat.
Who the hell cares as long as the dollars come in. If they announced a crowd of 200 but brought in the same money as a sold out announcement, what difference does it make?
Happy counting.
I dunno, people pay for empty seats for only so long. Empty seats don't pay for parking and they don't buy beer and food.
Only a dumb*** would have to count every seat, so I wonder why you consider that a viable option. 35,000 and change was the pre-renovation capacity. 15 sections in the lower level club, about 10 rows, 15 seats each...let's generously call that 2,000. You come up with the other 3,100. Unless they're counting the help, journalists and whatever, I don't see how they make it to 40,000. I'm guessing around 37,500-38,000 minus whatever they subtract out for soccer, when that happens.
This board has spent years making fun of Pitt, now we're kind of doing the same thing.
18 founders suites which hold 22-26 people per. Plus however many patio suites there are that hold 4-8 per. And yes, most stadiums count employees working in the stadium on game day, and we added a bunch of those people.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
(11-17-2015 02:24 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote: Yeah, well there was nowhere close to 35,000 at that game. Sure they go by tickets sold, but even that is dubious. Still can't figure out how they get to 40,100 capacity.
I disagree. I arrived late and thought 35k seemed fair.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
(11-17-2015 03:29 PM)subflea Wrote: (11-17-2015 02:52 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote: (11-17-2015 02:31 PM)Bearcat Otto Wrote: Now that the season is over you could always go to Nippert and count every seat.
Who the hell cares as long as the dollars come in. If they announced a crowd of 200 but brought in the same money as a sold out announcement, what difference does it make?
Happy counting.
I dunno, people pay for empty seats for only so long. Empty seats don't pay for parking and they don't buy beer and food.
Only a dumb*** would have to count every seat, so I wonder why you consider that a viable option. 35,000 and change was the pre-renovation capacity. 15 sections in the lower level club, about 10 rows, 15 seats each...let's generously call that 2,000. You come up with the other 3,100. Unless they're counting the help, journalists and whatever, I don't see how they make it to 40,000. I'm guessing around 37,500-38,000 minus whatever they subtract out for soccer, when that happens.
This board has spent years making fun of Pitt, now we're kind of doing the same thing.
18 founders suites which hold 22-26 people per. Plus however many patio suites there are that hold 4-8 per. And yes, most stadiums count employees working in the stadium on game day, and we added a bunch of those people.
My argument is based on university releases that said seating capacity would be 40,000. You seem to believe that workers in the stadium are included in announced "paid attendance," which seems a bit dishonest, but at least that would explain the numbers.
18 founders suites at 26 per is 468, plus however many patio suites. Not sure how many...50? Hell, let's make it 100. I know it's not 100, but let's make it that. Assume 8 per patio suite (it's really less than that) and that's another 800, with that on top of the 2,000 in the lower club - so we're up to a generously estimated 3,268 in increased seating capacity.
I simply don't think Nippert seats more than 38,000. There were well more than 3,000 empties last Saturday night (based on the announced 35,000 paid attendance). I think low 30's is being generous.
Still a nice crowd for Tulsa on a chilly Saturday night, but not what they said it was.
It's kind of funny I'm having this discussion because pre-renovation my estimates would always be over the actual announced butts in seats. Now I'm being called out for the opposite.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
(11-17-2015 04:33 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote: (11-17-2015 03:29 PM)subflea Wrote: (11-17-2015 02:52 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote: (11-17-2015 02:31 PM)Bearcat Otto Wrote: Now that the season is over you could always go to Nippert and count every seat.
Who the hell cares as long as the dollars come in. If they announced a crowd of 200 but brought in the same money as a sold out announcement, what difference does it make?
Happy counting.
I dunno, people pay for empty seats for only so long. Empty seats don't pay for parking and they don't buy beer and food.
Only a dumb*** would have to count every seat, so I wonder why you consider that a viable option. 35,000 and change was the pre-renovation capacity. 15 sections in the lower level club, about 10 rows, 15 seats each...let's generously call that 2,000. You come up with the other 3,100. Unless they're counting the help, journalists and whatever, I don't see how they make it to 40,000. I'm guessing around 37,500-38,000 minus whatever they subtract out for soccer, when that happens.
This board has spent years making fun of Pitt, now we're kind of doing the same thing.
18 founders suites which hold 22-26 people per. Plus however many patio suites there are that hold 4-8 per. And yes, most stadiums count employees working in the stadium on game day, and we added a bunch of those people.
My argument is based on university releases that said seating capacity would be 40,000. You seem to believe that workers in the stadium are included in announced "paid attendance," which seems a bit dishonest, but at least that would explain the numbers.
18 founders suites at 26 per is 468, plus however many patio suites. Not sure how many...50? Hell, let's make it 100. I know it's not 100, but let's make it that. Assume 8 per patio suite (it's really less than that) and that's another 800, with that on top of the 2,000 in the lower club - so we're up to a generously estimated 3,268 in increased seating capacity.
I simply don't think Nippert seats more than 38,000. There were well more than 3,000 empties last Saturday night (based on the announced 35,000 paid attendance). I think low 30's is being generous.
Still a nice crowd for Tulsa on a chilly Saturday night, but not what they said it was.
It's kind of funny I'm having this discussion because pre-renovation my estimates would always be over the actual announced butts in seats. Now I'm being called out for the opposite.
Apparently you are the only person who cares hence the go count the seats statement. Are you getting a cut on how many butts are in their seats? If not, what does it matter to you?
BTW...get some thinker skin. Name calling doesn't look good on you. makes you look weak.
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RE: UC Sets Program Attendance Record
I'd like to thank all those that attended this year!
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