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RE: Poor recruiting has caught up to fuente
(11-16-2015 03:34 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  I thought most of Porter's recruits all left? I think having a new coordinator and 8 new starters is the bigger issue than how many stars a player has. It's about development. If and when Fuente leaves when need to find another coach with the same mindset. As for an example of higher ranked players feeling "entitled" look no further than the Dotson kid from White Station. He didn't bother to show up for the first workout. He's at what UT Martin now?

There is more to that story but the kid is not here so it's not important.
11-16-2015 05:25 PM
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RE: Poor recruiting has caught up to fuente
(11-16-2015 05:25 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 03:34 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  I thought most of Porter's recruits all left? I think having a new coordinator and 8 new starters is the bigger issue than how many stars a player has. It's about development. If and when Fuente leaves when need to find another coach with the same mindset. As for an example of higher ranked players feeling "entitled" look no further than the Dotson kid from White Station. He didn't bother to show up for the first workout. He's at what UT Martin now?

There is more to that story but the kid is not here so it's not important.

I know there is more to the story
11-16-2015 05:28 PM
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RE: Poor recruiting has caught up to fuente
(11-16-2015 01:11 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 12:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 12:36 PM)mewes Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 11:08 AM)mairving Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 11:03 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  Pretty much every guy that made our defense as good as it was last year was a Porter guy.

And pretty much every guy that made our offense as good as it is a Fuente guy.

Nobody is questioning his offense coaching ability. All I was saying is that he should try to recruit better defensive players. After we losses all of the defensive talent last year he didn't replace it with equal or better talent. He also needs to replace his DC.

We're on track to have the single best season in Memphis Tiger football history and you're recommending that the coach fire a coordinator in the off season?

I think this is proof that some of you have completely lost perspective at this point.

Statistically, this is one of the worst defenses we've had in decades. The offense is just so good that they make up for it most of the time. Yes, a coordinator change needs to be made. And likely will.

JF may not agree with replacing the coordinator.
11-16-2015 09:59 PM
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RE: Poor recruiting has caught up to fuente
(11-16-2015 09:59 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 01:11 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 12:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 12:36 PM)mewes Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 11:08 AM)mairving Wrote:  And pretty much every guy that made our offense as good as it is a Fuente guy.

Nobody is questioning his offense coaching ability. All I was saying is that he should try to recruit better defensive players. After we losses all of the defensive talent last year he didn't replace it with equal or better talent. He also needs to replace his DC.

We're on track to have the single best season in Memphis Tiger football history and you're recommending that the coach fire a coordinator in the off season?

I think this is proof that some of you have completely lost perspective at this point.

Statistically, this is one of the worst defenses we've had in decades. The offense is just so good that they make up for it most of the time. Yes, a coordinator change needs to be made. And likely will.

JF may not agree with replacing the coordinator.

Got too conservative and the offense turned it over simple as that. Still had a chance to win at the end. Should have never let them back in the game.
Well it is what it is we can go 10 and 2 and be in a great bowl and Im going.

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11-16-2015 11:06 PM
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RE: Poor recruiting has caught up to fuente
It's really simple. Porter tried to mimic his mentor - Les Miles. Get a bunch of athletic guys in here and see what happens. Les gets away with it because his guys are good enough to overcome his shortcomings as a coach. Porter was a complete failure with that approach. Because he got athletic guys, but they were not of the quality to overcome his shortcomings as a coach.

Whereas Fuente patterns his own mentor - Gary Patterson. Patterson pays no attention to rankings. With his many years of success, he still only has a total of three 4- or 5- star guys. His roster is made of 2- and 3-stars. He finds guys to fit the system and then invests in development. Exactly what Fuente is doing. It works. Why? Because Memphis is not going to consistently get 4-stars. And we don't need to in the AAC. Our best investment is in evaluation and development.

Fuente's outline is the right one for Memphis. The fact that we took our guys and beat the crap out of an SEC team with 3 NFL first rounders is evidence. We got banged up at Houston and lost a heart-breaker on the road to a very good team. You're extrapolating beyond that.
11-17-2015 09:40 AM
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RE: Poor recruiting has caught up to fuente
(11-15-2015 02:14 AM)CFF1991 Wrote:  Well if Memphis hopes to hang with us next year they need to step up the recruiting front. We have 3* and 4* players coming in next year.

We won't have to worry about you guys. We will have announced B12 membership by then and recruits will be knocking on our doors.
11-17-2015 09:44 AM
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RE: Poor recruiting has caught up to fuente
(11-16-2015 09:59 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 01:11 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 12:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 12:36 PM)mewes Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 11:08 AM)mairving Wrote:  And pretty much every guy that made our offense as good as it is a Fuente guy.

Nobody is questioning his offense coaching ability. All I was saying is that he should try to recruit better defensive players. After we losses all of the defensive talent last year he didn't replace it with equal or better talent. He also needs to replace his DC.

We're on track to have the single best season in Memphis Tiger football history and you're recommending that the coach fire a coordinator in the off season?

I think this is proof that some of you have completely lost perspective at this point.

Statistically, this is one of the worst defenses we've had in decades. The offense is just so good that they make up for it most of the time. Yes, a coordinator change needs to be made. And likely will.

JF may not agree with replacing the coordinator.

Find the best four juco dbacks in the nation and the defense coordinator will look like a genius. Speed kills.
11-17-2015 09:46 AM
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RE: Poor recruiting has caught up to fuente
(11-16-2015 09:59 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 01:11 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 12:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 12:36 PM)mewes Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 11:08 AM)mairving Wrote:  And pretty much every guy that made our offense as good as it is a Fuente guy.

Nobody is questioning his offense coaching ability. All I was saying is that he should try to recruit better defensive players. After we losses all of the defensive talent last year he didn't replace it with equal or better talent. He also needs to replace his DC.

We're on track to have the single best season in Memphis Tiger football history and you're recommending that the coach fire a coordinator in the off season?

I think this is proof that some of you have completely lost perspective at this point.

Statistically, this is one of the worst defenses we've had in decades. The offense is just so good that they make up for it most of the time. Yes, a coordinator change needs to be made. And likely will.

JF may not agree with replacing the coordinator.

No way he replaces Galen Scott after 1 season.
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RE: Poor recruiting has caught up to fuente
(11-17-2015 09:47 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 09:59 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 01:11 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 12:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 12:36 PM)mewes Wrote:  Nobody is questioning his offense coaching ability. All I was saying is that he should try to recruit better defensive players. After we losses all of the defensive talent last year he didn't replace it with equal or better talent. He also needs to replace his DC.

We're on track to have the single best season in Memphis Tiger football history and you're recommending that the coach fire a coordinator in the off season?

I think this is proof that some of you have completely lost perspective at this point.

Statistically, this is one of the worst defenses we've had in decades. The offense is just so good that they make up for it most of the time. Yes, a coordinator change needs to be made. And likely will.

JF may not agree with replacing the coordinator.

No way he replaces Galen Scott after 1 season.

If so, it apparently is an issue with some of our fans and their actions will be interesting to observe.
11-17-2015 09:53 AM
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