(11-16-2015 09:45 AM)BobL Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 02:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 10:59 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  So one (maybe two, three, a dozen) of hundreds of thousands of refugees was a terrorist, and the answer is to shut the borders and keep innocent men, women and children out?

So wait......now the lives of innocent people is our problem? So many on the left didn't feel that way when we wanted to remove Saddam after he gassed and tortured his own citizens.

Quote:Shut the borders. Then what?

Seal them with a no man's land in between fences and kill anybody who tries to cross it. Just like killing coyotes and other vermin you don't have to kill them all....just enough to make it clear they are better off not trying to enter.

Quote:And those who blame Islam for this ...

I don't know. I certainly don't judge all Baptists by the members of Westboro Baptist Church. Maybe I should.

You might have a point if the basic tenants of the Baptist church called for it's followers to do what Westboro does. They don't.

The Quran contains 109 verses that call for violence.

The Bible has its fair share as well.

Extremist Muslims are a tiny percentage of the whole, just as extremist Christian and Jews are a tiny percentage of the whole. I will grant you that the Muslim extremists are more organized and with a greater desire to shed blood.

There are 100,000 Lassana Bathily type of Muslims for every one extremist.

I'm fairly certain they got them from the same set of prophets....that old testament thingy just won't go away no matter how much the christians wish it would....

and people wonder why I'm an atheist.....

(11-16-2015 09:25 AM)BobL Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 01:44 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 10:59 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  So one (maybe two, three, a dozen) of hundreds of thousands of refugees was a terrorist, and the answer is to shut the borders and keep innocent men, women and children out?

Shut the borders. Then what?

And those who blame Islam for this ...

I don't know. I certainly don't judge all Baptists by the members of Westboro Baptist Church. Maybe I should.

Maybe you should educate yourself and not follow the DNC/Liberal talking points. Or, continue with your willfull ignorance. Your choice.

You are the one displaying ignorance...to blame an entire religion for the actions of a few.

The few are acting according to the commands of said religion. So yeah, it is quite appropriate to blame the religion.

(11-14-2015 08:13 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  So everyone is an individual.

Except Muslims.

They're the masters of group think.

Not all roaches are bad either, but i don't want them around my property either. It's just a matter of time before They can become bad.

(11-15-2015 02:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 10:59 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  So one (maybe two, three, a dozen) of hundreds of thousands of refugees was a terrorist, and the answer is to shut the borders and keep innocent men, women and children out?

So wait......now the lives of innocent people is our problem? So many on the left didn't feel that way when we wanted to remove Saddam after he gassed and tortured his own citizens.

Quote:Shut the borders. Then what?

Seal them with a no man's land in between fences and kill anybody who tries to cross it. Just like killing coyotes and other vermin you don't have to kill them all....just enough to make it clear they are better off not trying to enter.

Quote:And those who blame Islam for this ...

I don't know. I certainly don't judge all Baptists by the members of Westboro Baptist Church. Maybe I should.

You might have a point if the basic tenants of the Baptist church called for it's followers to do what Westboro does. They don't.

The Quran contains 109 verses that call for violence.

You know what happens when you try to cull a coyote population don't you? They biologically respond by reproducing earlier and having larger litters. Doesn't work.

(11-16-2015 09:45 AM)BobL Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 02:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 10:59 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  So one (maybe two, three, a dozen) of hundreds of thousands of refugees was a terrorist, and the answer is to shut the borders and keep innocent men, women and children out?

So wait......now the lives of innocent people is our problem? So many on the left didn't feel that way when we wanted to remove Saddam after he gassed and tortured his own citizens.

Quote:Shut the borders. Then what?

Seal them with a no man's land in between fences and kill anybody who tries to cross it. Just like killing coyotes and other vermin you don't have to kill them all....just enough to make it clear they are better off not trying to enter.

Quote:And those who blame Islam for this ...

I don't know. I certainly don't judge all Baptists by the members of Westboro Baptist Church. Maybe I should.

You might have a point if the basic tenants of the Baptist church called for it's followers to do what Westboro does. They don't.

The Quran contains 109 verses that call for violence.

The Bible has its fair share as well.

Extremist Muslims are a tiny percentage of the whole, just as extremist Christian and Jews are a tiny percentage of the whole. I will grant you that the Muslim extremists are more organized and with a greater desire to shed blood.

There are 100,000 Lassana Bathily type of Muslims for every one extremist.

There is violence in the Bible sure because there is violence in the world. Maybe you're unfamiliar with the teachings of a fellow named Jesus.

Apparently you are unfamiliar with the Quran as well. Instead of trending from the violent end towards peace, it goes the opposite way. Mohammad, piss be upon him, demanded more and more death and destruction the farther along his writings go.

And you are sorely mistaken in your numbers.

(11-16-2015 09:45 AM)BobL Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 02:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 10:59 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  So one (maybe two, three, a dozen) of hundreds of thousands of refugees was a terrorist, and the answer is to shut the borders and keep innocent men, women and children out?

So wait......now the lives of innocent people is our problem? So many on the left didn't feel that way when we wanted to remove Saddam after he gassed and tortured his own citizens.

Quote:Shut the borders. Then what?

Seal them with a no man's land in between fences and kill anybody who tries to cross it. Just like killing coyotes and other vermin you don't have to kill them all....just enough to make it clear they are better off not trying to enter.

Quote:And those who blame Islam for this ...

I don't know. I certainly don't judge all Baptists by the members of Westboro Baptist Church. Maybe I should.

You might have a point if the basic tenants of the Baptist church called for it's followers to do what Westboro does. They don't.

The Quran contains 109 verses that call for violence.

The Bible has its fair share as well.

Extremist Muslims are a tiny percentage of the whole, just as extremist Christian and Jews are a tiny percentage of the whole. I will grant you that the Muslim extremists are more organized and with a greater desire to shed blood.

There are 100,000 Lassana Bathily type of Muslims for every one extremist.

Was waiting on some goofball to say "OMG THE BIBLE"........

Well, guy.....the Christians aren't going around blowing themselves up and taking out hundreds at a time. They aren't burying women and homosexuals up to their necks and stoning them to death. They aren't throwing people off buildings. They aren't beheading "infidels."

You are simply refusing to acknowledge the reality of the situation. Islam is a world cancer. You know it.....but your "feels" won't let you say it publicly.

(11-16-2015 10:51 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 09:45 AM)BobL Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 02:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-15-2015 10:59 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  So one (maybe two, three, a dozen) of hundreds of thousands of refugees was a terrorist, and the answer is to shut the borders and keep innocent men, women and children out?

So wait......now the lives of innocent people is our problem? So many on the left didn't feel that way when we wanted to remove Saddam after he gassed and tortured his own citizens.

Quote:Shut the borders. Then what?

Seal them with a no man's land in between fences and kill anybody who tries to cross it. Just like killing coyotes and other vermin you don't have to kill them all....just enough to make it clear they are better off not trying to enter.

Quote:And those who blame Islam for this ...

I don't know. I certainly don't judge all Baptists by the members of Westboro Baptist Church. Maybe I should.

You might have a point if the basic tenants of the Baptist church called for it's followers to do what Westboro does. They don't.

The Quran contains 109 verses that call for violence.

The Bible has its fair share as well.

Extremist Muslims are a tiny percentage of the whole, just as extremist Christian and Jews are a tiny percentage of the whole. I will grant you that the Muslim extremists are more organized and with a greater desire to shed blood.

There are 100,000 Lassana Bathily type of Muslims for every one extremist.

Was waiting on some goofball to say "OMG THE BIBLE"........

Well, guy.....the Christians aren't going around blowing themselves up and taking out hundreds at a time. They aren't burying women and homosexuals up to their necks and stoning them to death. They aren't throwing people off buildings. They aren't beheading "infidels."

You are simply refusing to acknowledge the reality of the situation. Islam is a world cancer. You know it.....but your "feels" won't let you say it publicly.

You should have read my entire post...clearly you missed the statement "I will grant you that the Muslim extremists are more organized and with a greater desire to shed blood. "

Additionally You might want to educate yourself on Zionism...you may be surprised to find that modern day terrorism really began with the zionist movement pre WWII British occupied Palestine...largely against the British.

A few other items..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/afr...story.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/01/world/...ddler.html

Oh gosh you're one of those. When I the word "Zionist" I just start seeing:

(11-16-2015 12:24 PM)BobL Wrote:  You should have read my entire post...clearly you missed the statement "I will grant you that the Muslim extremists are more organized and with a greater desire to shed blood. "

Additionally You might want to educate yourself on Zionism...you may be surprised to find that modern day terrorism really began with the zionist movement pre WWII British occupied Palestine...largely against the British.

A few other items..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/afr...story.html

This article states the Christian militias are in response to the Muslim militias that starting oppressing the Christians after the overthrow of the government by minority Muslims.

(11-15-2015 10:59 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  So one (maybe two, three, a dozen) of hundreds of thousands of refugees was a terrorist, and the answer is to shut the borders and keep innocent men, women and children out?

Shut the borders. Then what?

And those who blame Islam for this ...

I don't know. I certainly don't judge all Baptists by the members of Westboro Baptist Church. Maybe I should.

There are a host of economically well off muslim nations that should be taking in refugees, most of which would not exist if not for how the Western Alliance put Hussein in his place with Desert Storm. The UAE, Oman, Dubai, Kuwait & Bahain have lots of petro $ to support thousands of refugees along with the Saudi's

The refugees would also be moving to a nation where their faith is the majority culture.

The Eastern European nations are turning away these people and with good reason. Way more headaches and problems that they do not need to deal with. They come to Poland or Slovakia and they will want Hallal meat, then they will be bitching to have mosques built then they will want government subsidies for muslim schools plus the strain they will put on what social services exist.

They should stay in the middle east

(11-16-2015 01:03 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 12:24 PM)BobL Wrote:  You should have read my entire post...clearly you missed the statement "I will grant you that the Muslim extremists are more organized and with a greater desire to shed blood. "

Additionally You might want to educate yourself on Zionism...you may be surprised to find that modern day terrorism really began with the zionist movement pre WWII British occupied Palestine...largely against the British.

A few other items..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/afr...story.html

This article states the Christian militias are in response to the Muslim militias that starting oppressing the Christians after the overthrow of the government by minority Muslims.

It does indeed, I wasn't clear in my post..the intent was to reference the brutality and lack of restraint once in control.

I certainly understand that there exists an extremist sect of Islam that wishes to see the death of Christians and Jews..but this is truly a very small number and their extremist interpretation of the Quran is not that which is held by 99 % of Muslims world wide.

I have no patience for those who judge an entire race, religion or ethnicity by the actions of a few.

(11-16-2015 02:03 PM)BobL Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 01:03 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 12:24 PM)BobL Wrote:  You should have read my entire post...clearly you missed the statement "I will grant you that the Muslim extremists are more organized and with a greater desire to shed blood. "

Additionally You might want to educate yourself on Zionism...you may be surprised to find that modern day terrorism really began with the zionist movement pre WWII British occupied Palestine...largely against the British.

A few other items..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/afr...story.html

This article states the Christian militias are in response to the Muslim militias that starting oppressing the Christians after the overthrow of the government by minority Muslims.

It does indeed, I wasn't clear in my post..the intent was to reference the brutality and lack of restraint once in control.

I certainly understand that there exists an extremist sect of Islam that wishes to see the death of Christians and Jews..but this is truly a very small number and their extremist interpretation of the Quran is not that which is held by 99 % of Muslims world wide.

I have no patience for those who judge an entire race, religion or ethnicity by the actions of a few.

Ok. Understood.

However, this isn't just a battle between the West (however one chooses to define it) and Wahabbism. And, even if I agree with your 99%, that 1% is still awfully effective in creating lost of life and general mayhem.

(11-16-2015 03:18 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 02:03 PM)BobL Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 01:03 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 12:24 PM)BobL Wrote:  You should have read my entire post...clearly you missed the statement "I will grant you that the Muslim extremists are more organized and with a greater desire to shed blood. "

Additionally You might want to educate yourself on Zionism...you may be surprised to find that modern day terrorism really began with the zionist movement pre WWII British occupied Palestine...largely against the British.

A few other items..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/afr...story.html

This article states the Christian militias are in response to the Muslim militias that starting oppressing the Christians after the overthrow of the government by minority Muslims.

It does indeed, I wasn't clear in my post..the intent was to reference the brutality and lack of restraint once in control.

I certainly understand that there exists an extremist sect of Islam that wishes to see the death of Christians and Jews..but this is truly a very small number and their extremist interpretation of the Quran is not that which is held by 99 % of Muslims world wide.

I have no patience for those who judge an entire race, religion or ethnicity by the actions of a few.

Ok. Understood.

However, this isn't just a battle between the West (however one chooses to define it) and Wahabbism. And, even if I agree with your 99%, that 1% is still awfully effective in creating lost of life and general mayhem.

Indeed

(11-16-2015 02:03 PM)BobL Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 01:03 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 12:24 PM)BobL Wrote:  You should have read my entire post...clearly you missed the statement "I will grant you that the Muslim extremists are more organized and with a greater desire to shed blood. "

Additionally You might want to educate yourself on Zionism...you may be surprised to find that modern day terrorism really began with the zionist movement pre WWII British occupied Palestine...largely against the British.

A few other items..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/afr...story.html

This article states the Christian militias are in response to the Muslim militias that starting oppressing the Christians after the overthrow of the government by minority Muslims.

It does indeed, I wasn't clear in my post..the intent was to reference the brutality and lack of restraint once in control.

I certainly understand that there exists an extremist sect of Islam that wishes to see the death of Christians and Jews..but this is truly a very small number and their extremist interpretation of the Quran is not that which is held by 99 % of Muslims world wide.

I have no patience for those who judge an entire race, religion or ethnicity by the actions of a few.

Again, you numbers are way the **** off. And they aren't interpreting the Quran, they are simply reading it. The actual words from Mohammad, piss be upon him.