Rockets just fired K. McHale as Head Coach of the Rockets. GM Daryl Morey had this to say which resonated with many of us...

Quotes from Rockets GM:
"We’re going to make changes until we win"
'We believe in this team, we know this team can win"
"I’m confident we can turn this around"
"We are not in a good place"
"We are losing in double digits at home"
"The team is not responding to the head coach"
"We cannot wait for a turnaround"

Refreshing to see someone in Houston with the guts to make change.

(11-18-2015 01:41 PM)KTOWL Wrote:  Rockets just fired K. McHale as Head Coach of the Rockets. GM Daryl Morey had this to say which resonated with many of us...

Quotes from Rockets GM:
"We’re going to make changes until we win"
'We believe in this team, we know this team can win"
"I’m confident we can turn this around"
"We are not in a good place"
"We are losing in double digits at home"
"The team is not responding to the head coach"
"We cannot wait for a turnaround"

Refreshing to see someone in Houston with the guts to make change.

Thank you for opening my eyes to the equivalency between NBA teams, and specifically a Houston Rockets team that upgraded its talent through FREE AGENCY and is under performing, and Rice Owl Football. What an astute observation.

Levine being fired is a much closer comparison, and even that comparison I have issues with because of the results of the coaches before Levine.

(11-18-2015 02:18 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-18-2015 01:41 PM)KTOWL Wrote:  Rockets just fired K. McHale as Head Coach of the Rockets. GM Daryl Morey had this to say which resonated with many of us...

Quotes from Rockets GM:
"We’re going to make changes until we win"
'We believe in this team, we know this team can win"
"I’m confident we can turn this around"
"We are not in a good place"
"We are losing in double digits at home"
"The team is not responding to the head coach"
"We cannot wait for a turnaround"

Refreshing to see someone in Houston with the guts to make change.

Thank you for opening my eyes to the equivalency between NBA teams, and specifically a Houston Rockets team that upgraded its talent through FREE AGENCY and is under performing, and Rice Owl Football. What an astute observation.

Levine being fired is a much closer comparison, and even that comparison I have issues with because of the results of the coaches before Levine.

Exactly. Stop trying to compare everything to Bailiff. Completely unrelated.

Wait, I've got more good sport analogies that are completely meaningless!

I'm sure the Cleveland Browns are THRILLED that they fired Bill Belichick in 1995.

Or the Steelers, for that matter, after Cowher went 7-9, 6-10, and 9-7 between '98 and '00, or after he went 6-10 in 2003.

Not in the pros, but I bet TCU is really pissed that they didn't fire Gary Patterson after going 7-6 and 4-8 in 2012 and 2013 (or 5-6 back in 2004).

I'm sure I could find plenty of other names that prove the point that this comparison is silly. Some teams have fired a coach too quickly, or held on to a coach after a few down years to see that coach turn it around and be hyper successful.

Unbelievable that this would come up in a Rice thread.

unequivocally the dumbest thing the Houston Rockets could do at this point...about the only thing right with the Rockets was Kevin McHale. Dwight Howard is a giant piece of turd that plays when he feels like it, and even then takes games off. James Harden is a one dimensional turnover machine who can't make enough points to compensate for his atrocious defense.

And you are lauding the fact that they have the "balls" to fire someone?!?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........

(11-18-2015 02:18 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-18-2015 01:41 PM)KTOWL Wrote:  Rockets just fired K. McHale as Head Coach of the Rockets. GM Daryl Morey had this to say which resonated with many of us...

Quotes from Rockets GM:
"We’re going to make changes until we win"
'We believe in this team, we know this team can win"
"I’m confident we can turn this around"
"We are not in a good place"
"We are losing in double digits at home"
"The team is not responding to the head coach"
"We cannot wait for a turnaround"

Refreshing to see someone in Houston with the guts to make change.

Thank you for opening my eyes to the equivalency between NBA teams, and specifically a Houston Rockets team that upgraded its talent through FREE AGENCY and is under performing, and Rice Owl Football. What an astute observation.

Levine being fired is a much closer comparison, and even that comparison I have issues with because of the results of the coaches before Levine.

I think you have issues with anything being compared with Bailiff. I found the quotes to be comments repeatedly stated on the board. My favorite one is "we are not in a good place". NBA or college football-it applies if you suck.

(11-18-2015 04:48 PM)SaintsOwl Wrote:  

(11-18-2015 02:18 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-18-2015 01:41 PM)KTOWL Wrote:  Rockets just fired K. McHale as Head Coach of the Rockets. GM Daryl Morey had this to say which resonated with many of us...

Quotes from Rockets GM:
"We’re going to make changes until we win"
'We believe in this team, we know this team can win"
"I’m confident we can turn this around"
"We are not in a good place"
"We are losing in double digits at home"
"The team is not responding to the head coach"
"We cannot wait for a turnaround"

Refreshing to see someone in Houston with the guts to make change.

Thank you for opening my eyes to the equivalency between NBA teams, and specifically a Houston Rockets team that upgraded its talent through FREE AGENCY and is under performing, and Rice Owl Football. What an astute observation.

Levine being fired is a much closer comparison, and even that comparison I have issues with because of the results of the coaches before Levine.

I think you have issues with anything being compared with Bailiff. I found the quotes to be comments repeatedly stated on the board. My favorite one is "we are not in a good place". NBA or college football-it applies if you suck.

No issues with applicable comparisons that are well thought out and articulated clearly. I don't think providing a really elementary comparison like this that is only superficial does anyone good. As I said, Levine is closer, but even there I do not think it is oranges to oranges, more like oranges to tangerines.

But do you care to tell me why we should be comparing NBA coaching decisions to Rice football? Or would you rather just continue to make baseless assumptions about my behavior that do not further the conversation?

(11-18-2015 04:23 PM)tramile12 Wrote:  Unbelievable that this would come up in a Rice thread.

unequivocally the dumbest thing the Houston Rockets could do at this point...about the only thing right with the Rockets was Kevin McHale. Dwight Howard is a giant piece of turd that plays when he feels like it, and even then takes games off. James Harden is a one dimensional turnover machine who can't make enough points to compensate for his atrocious defense.

And you are lauding the fact that they have the "balls" to fire someone?!?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........

Okay, so we know you don't actually watch the games. Good to know.

Harden has a horrible free shooting percentage so he gets intentionally fouled many times. If they could get Calvin Murphy out of his loud sportcoats and TV announcing to teach Hardin how to shoot free throws. Murphy set a NBA record by making 82 free throws in a row.

(11-18-2015 04:23 PM)tramile12 Wrote:  Unbelievable that this would come up in a Rice thread.

unequivocally the dumbest thing the Houston Rockets could do at this point...about the only thing right with the Rockets was Kevin McHale. Dwight Howard is a giant piece of turd that plays when he feels like it, and even then takes games off. James Harden is a one dimensional turnover machine who can't make enough points to compensate for his atrocious defense.

And you are lauding the fact that they have the "balls" to fire someone?!?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........

(11-18-2015 05:02 PM)BSWBRice Wrote:  

(11-18-2015 04:23 PM)tramile12 Wrote:  Unbelievable that this would come up in a Rice thread.

unequivocally the dumbest thing the Houston Rockets could do at this point...about the only thing right with the Rockets was Kevin McHale. Dwight Howard is a giant piece of turd that plays when he feels like it, and even then takes games off. James Harden is a one dimensional turnover machine who can't make enough points to compensate for his atrocious defense.

And you are lauding the fact that they have the "balls" to fire someone?!?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........

Okay, so we know you don't actually watch the games. Good to know.

hey whatever helps you feel better about things and get through the day! This team will NOT be better off without McHale, but oh Hooray for making a move, even if its a dumb one. Brilliant.

And the Rockets were in the Western Conference finals last year. McHale is the first coach to be fired this soon into a season following a conference finals appearance since 2005 (Stan Van Gundy, Miami). Now granted, the Heat made it into the NBA finals that year, but Van Gundy stepped down in order for Pat Riley (the GM) to resume coaching duties. Who does Morey have in mind to coach the team? Morey has always seemed very overrated to me.

The Rockets made the WCf in spite of McHale, not because of him. Add in a Clippers choke in Game 6 of their series and the Rockets were very fortunate to get as far as they could.

KM's wife blamed the Kardasians for getting her husband fired.

(11-19-2015 06:36 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  The Rockets made the WCf in spite of McHale, not because of him. Add in a Clippers choke in Game 6 of their series and the Rockets were very fortunate to get as far as they could.

Houston was the #2 seed in the Western Conference by virtue of the team's regular season record of 56-26. I don't see that as being "fortunate" because the Rockets EARNED the home court advantage over every team except for Golden State.

(11-19-2015 07:09 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  KM's wife blamed the Kardasians for getting her husband fired.

life in the nba

Since he has Minnesota roots, I always liked McHale. However, over the years I've heard the stories about how Larry Bird didn't like him - because Kevin supposedly had a terrible work ethic when he played for the Celtics. Last year it was often reported how he was popular with the players because he was a "players coach." Those two things kept bothering me about him being able to really take the Rockets to the next level (win a Championship). I just didn't see it happening. I was hopeful that we would start strong after last year's finish, but we have looked terrible. The players look lazy, unmotivated, and undisciplined. I've always complained to friends about the NBA, because I felt many of the players really only play at about 90% speed during the regular season. Only over the last 2 minutes does the game get really intense. Watching the Rockets early in the season, that's what I was seeing - and it was really ticking me off. Granted, the players are the ones mailing it in - but you don't see teams like the Spurs ever do that. I want a coach that's a lot more like Greg Popovich. With McHale I wasn't seeing anything close to that.

After stomaching the first 7 or 8 games, I'd already given up on the Rockets and the NBA for this season. Give me a team like the Owls that at least busts it for the entire game. Maybe the Rockets GM sensed that was happening with a lot of the fan base, and decided a change needed to be made. I'm glad he did it - to me, he was seeing the same lazy play that I was, and was also getting fed up.

(11-18-2015 04:23 PM)tramile12 Wrote:  Unbelievable that this would come up in a Rice thread.

unequivocally the dumbest thing the Houston Rockets could do at this point...about the only thing right with the Rockets was Kevin McHale. Dwight Howard is a giant piece of turd that plays when he feels like it, and even then takes games off. James Harden is a one dimensional turnover machine who can't make enough points to compensate for his atrocious defense.

And you are lauding the fact that they have the "balls" to fire someone?!?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........

Are you listening to Stephen A Smith seriously? Dwight Howard was about the only Rocket (apart from Ariza) who put in effort every single game this season. The reason he is missing so many games is because the doctors have not cleared him for back-to-backs yet.

McHale was the weakest part of the team for most of 2 years. The Portland series was lost because of his inability to make adjustments earlier than 4 games into the series. He was thoroughly outcoached by Terry Stotts.

Unlike other Western Conference contender coaches (Kerr, Popp, Doc) McHale is very, very poor strategically. It is clear the "free flowing" offensive system that he ran is not sustainable for a legitimate championship threat. Harden iso is not a sustainable play. I have watched every single game this season and I literally cannot remember one example of a well-designed play leading to an easy bucket.

The only value McHale brought was being a "player's coach". By all reports, his players were not listening to anymore. I think it was extremely logical that he was fired. JB is not the answer, but at least this opens the path for a coach that is actually a + sometime in the next few years.

(11-20-2015 02:09 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 06:36 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  The Rockets made the WCf in spite of McHale, not because of him. Add in a Clippers choke in Game 6 of their series and the Rockets were very fortunate to get as far as they could.

Houston was the #2 seed in the Western Conference by virtue of the team's regular season record of 56-26. I don't see that as being "fortunate" because the Rockets EARNED the home court advantage over every team except for Golden State.

It was fortunate because of the way NBA standings tie-breakers work. The Rockets got the 2 seed over the Clippers only because they were division champions (by 1 game, over the Spurs and Grizzlies). I believe that save for that fact, the Clippers would have won the tie-breaker and the Rockets would have been 3rd, having to face the Spurs instead of the Mavs in the first round (and very capable of losing to them).

On the flip side, it demonstrated to Poppovich why regular season wins matter since just one more victory would have got them the 2nd seed (since they won the season series vs. Houson 3-1).