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(01-23-2017 06:55 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

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(01-23-2017 02:30 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Well, if the Virginia Beach arena deal falls through, Norfolk is ready to step up and have an arena deal fall through!

http://pilotonline.com/news/government/l...08037.html

This is a little theory I've been mulling on since the VB deal went into question. I think that Norfolk would be less wishy-washy with the deal than VB, and it would be a real shot in the arm for Norfolk's dream of making the Military Circle area a more dense/urbanized area. Would also basically guarantee that the first expansion of the Tide would be the eastern Military Circle/Airport/Wards Corner route.

With the departure of Fraim, I am not sure the council/mayor are established enough, with enough political clout, to get something this big passed.

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If it ended up being a deal like VB is currently mulling it wouldn't be that huge. VB would only be committed to infrastructure portion.

I tend to agree with you that it isn't that big of a deal, but VB with a pretty strong Mayor (politically) still can't get it done. The whiners just don't like spending money to encourage development, and make it darn near impossible to get the best deals through. The current political climate is just nonsensical when it comes to trying to create progress at the city level. The left hates spending money that in any way might benefit a business and the right refuses to spend money on anything at all. It must be a frustrating time to run a city government.

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I think it has more to do with VB's constituents. The city of Virginia Beach is "Yuge", and is host to a wide variety of people. This is usually a great thing, but when it comes to these matters having people in Towne Center, the Boardwalk, Great Neck, and Pungo all under one city council has to be extremely difficult to balance. Norfolk is a little more homogenous.

Norfolk's Mayor Kenny Alexander was a Virginia State Senator, so I'm sure he has some political clout in Richmond at the very least. He's local (and an ODU grad!) so he probably has some connections here as well, though he hasn't had much time to establish himself yet.

It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out in the next few months.

(01-23-2017 06:37 PM)GhentFan Wrote:  I wonder how much the new outlets would impact this project.

As for VB being a better area due to hotels and restaurants being near by. I'm pretty sure that the surrounding area will quickly draw interest from those type of venues and will look to set up shop near by.

Completely agree, look what happened when they built the Nationals Stadium in DC, what was run down and ugly is not trendy and expensive realestate