Houston could. No 1 loss teams though.

NO.

No.

The cartel will not let that happen. G5 members are included and have as much of a chance as everyone else to be included in the playoff in the same way that bathroom facilities in Alabama were "separate but equal" in the 1950s. Separate is never equal.

If Houston magically runs to #4 the week before the playoff is set and win the AAC final by 40, they will fall to #6 on the last poll. It simply will not be allowed to happen. When G5 schools are given a shot in big bowls, they usually win. Lesson earn: keep them out.

And who votes for the final seat at the table? Who set up the system and who profits most from it? Oh that's right, the ACC, Big12, Big10, PAC12, SEC, and Notre Dame. For Houston to get in, at least three of those entities would have to be left out. Best resume' be damned. Show me the money!

From a sadly pragmatic standpoint - the athletes Notre Dame, LSU, and Bama can bring to bear are worlds ahead of Houston, or any AAC team. The size and speed is just crazy. That's not to say an AAC team couldn't win, as Temple showed against Notre Dame and Memphis against Ole Miss, better coaching, better schemes, better discipline and better team work can beat better recruits.

But will any G5 get a chance?

No.

(11-09-2015 09:29 AM)JesseTU Wrote:  No.

The cartel will not let that happen.

For a G5 to make the playoffs, they will have HAD to have done something against a P5 Power to make their case. So what made Memphis a special case, what gave them an outside shot at the playoffs, was their win over Ole Miss.

Now, let's consider for a moment the scenario that would have had to develop for Memphis to have a real shot:

1) LSU beats Alabama.

2) Ole Miss beats #2 LSU.

3) Ole Miss beats #20 Mississippi State.

4) Florida wins out and enters the SEC CCG at around #7.

5) Ole Miss beats #7 Florida to win SEC title.

After beating all those high-ranked SEC teams, this probably puts Ole Miss at about #4 in the CFP Rankings.

Memphis wins out, and the argument is: "How can Memphis be left out when we beat the #4 ranked SEC champion, and decisively"?

And that argument might have won the day.

NOW, does HOUSTON have anything like that going for them? Any wins over any P5 powers?

Nope, nothing.

So Houston has NO chance at the playoffs. No G5 will EVER make the playoffs by just beating other G5 teams, even if they are ranked in the 20s like some AAC teams are. Wins over teams like Navy and Memphis and Temple, all of whom will surely FALL OUT of the rankings when Houston beats them, mean nothing.

Never.

Memphis had a shot but even if they had beaten Navy and won out their win over Ole Miss took a shot when they lost to Arkansas so they would not have made it either. We are playing for NY6 which is still a great thing.

Navy, no. UH not likely but slim chance.

For Houston or Navy to make the CFP, all the P5 champs would need 2 or more losses - and each a bad loss. Like, Syracuse or Wake beats Clemson, Illinois beats Ohio St., Texas beats Baylor, South Carolina beats Florida (or Arkansas miraculously wins the SEC). Those types of upsets.

For Navy to get in, I'm thinking you would also need Notre Dame to win out big - just annihilate Stanford.

Not impossible; like a Lloyd Christmas' or a snow ball's chance....

(11-09-2015 03:35 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  The stars have to align just right imo. Other than figure skating, college football is about the only sport I can think of where a team doesn't control its own destiny for a championship. The only team sport for certain.

Indeed, the stars must align correctly.

This means ALL P5 teams must at least have one loss and ideally two...AND

Houston must whip MEMPHIS, Navy, and Temple in the AAC Championship game in convincing fashion. Remember how the sports media folks were going to extremes last week dissecting MEMPHIS' 8-0 record by saying how we were behind in 5 of the games, etc.

What hurts Houston is the win over Louisville has declining value since the Cards haven't made noise in the ACC. The same applies to MEMPHIS after Ole Miss choked against the Hogs.

Unfair? You betcha. But the P5 cartel fully intends on keeping that playoff in their neighborhood.

(11-09-2015 09:55 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-09-2015 09:29 AM)JesseTU Wrote:  No.

The cartel will not let that happen.

For a G5 to make the playoffs, they will have HAD to have done something against a P5 Power to make their case. So what made Memphis a special case, what gave them an outside shot at the playoffs, was their win over Ole Miss.

Now, let's consider for a moment the scenario that would have had to develop for Memphis to have a real shot:

1) LSU beats Alabama.

2) Ole Miss beats #2 LSU.

3) Ole Miss beats #20 Mississippi State.

4) Florida wins out and enters the SEC CCG at around #7.

5) Ole Miss beats #7 Florida to win SEC title.

After beating all those high-ranked SEC teams, this probably puts Ole Miss at about #4 in the CFP Rankings.

Memphis wins out, and the argument is: "How can Memphis be left out when we beat the #4 ranked SEC champion, and decisively"?

And that argument might have won the day.

NOW, does HOUSTON have anything like that going for them? Any wins over any P5 powers?

Nope, nothing.

So Houston has NO chance at the playoffs. No G5 will EVER make the playoffs by just beating other G5 teams, even if they are ranked in the 20s like some AAC teams are. Wins over teams like Navy and Memphis and Temple, all of whom will surely FALL OUT of the rankings when Houston beats them, mean nothing.

Never.

Key point in your argument. Right or wrong, Memphis drops out if Houston wins. Even if it is only one shabby point.

(11-08-2015 05:35 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  And what would it take to get there?

Let me also say that I do NOT have illusions of grandeur in regards to these teams. It is most likely they would be left out for arguably better teams.

However, their records and the demonstrated strength of the AAC did not leave Memphis out of the conversation, despite their recent history, pre-Fuente.

So what would it take?

no

a 1 loss Big10, ACC, Pac12, or SEC team would get in over an undefeated UH/Navy.

In fact so would a 1 loss B12 team....which would take a back seat to a 1loss Big10, ACC, Pac12, or SEC team that won it's CCG. That 1loss B12 team would still get in over UH/Navy.

(11-09-2015 08:20 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(11-09-2015 03:35 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  The stars have to align just right imo. Other than figure skating, college football is about the only sport I can think of where a team doesn't control its own destiny for a championship. The only team sport for certain.

Indeed, the stars must align correctly.

This means ALL P5 teams must at least have one loss and ideally two...AND

Houston must whip MEMPHIS, Navy, and Temple in the AAC Championship game in convincing fashion. Remember how the sports media folks were going to extremes last week dissecting MEMPHIS' 8-0 record by saying how we were behind in 5 of the games, etc.

What hurts Houston is the win over Louisville has declining value since the Cards haven't made noise in the ACC. The same applies to MEMPHIS after Ole Miss choked against the Hogs.

Unfair? You betcha. But the P5 cartel fully intends on keeping that playoff in their neighborhood.

Actually compared to a few weeks ago, the Louisville win is looking better and better.

There will be no G5 in the playoffs unless they expand to eight teams (and of course, each P5 would have their free ticket there first)

The fat cats and monopoly men who pull the string won't allow it, not until their precious P5 bias teams can casually stroll in. Then they might throw the G5 a bone... maybe

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Some clowns around here thought *Houston* would be ranked around #15 this week.

I tried to tell them they would be lucky to be in the top 25, and now that the official CFP rankings are out, we see they are #24.

Yeah, good luck climbing into the Top 4, LOL.

You have to beat a NAMED ranked team in order to be taken seriously at getting into the top 4.

That is what Temple had a chance to do against Notre Dame...What Memphis did against Ole Miss...

Houston Can Beat Memphis, Navy and Temple, but they will not get the respect they deserve as none of these teams are considered top teams.

(11-10-2015 07:43 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  You have to beat a NAMED ranked team in order to be taken seriously at getting into the top 4.

That is what Temple had a chance to do against Notre Dame...What Memphis did against Ole Miss...

Houston Can Beat Memphis, Navy and Temple, but they will not get the respect they deserve as none of these teams are considered top teams.

Yes, you do have to beat a highly-ranked team, "name" isn't enough. E.g., I would say that Temple is getting more respect right now for their close *loss* to highly-ranked Notre Dame than for their big win over unranked (but big name) Penn State.

Memphis got plenty of respect for beating Ole Miss. They were ranked #13 last week and had they beaten Navy would probably be #11 right now, in striking distance of the playoffs. You need to beat a high-ranked team and then hope they win out so you continue to get respect for that.

Memphis fell so far because they suffered a one-two punch, not only did they lose to Navy, Ole Miss lost again as well, taking the lustre off that win.