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@TroyTrojansFB: Troy’s turnaround in 3rd down defense is tops in the country; the Trojans have improved by 18.48 percent from a year ago #RTW
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And we rise again...let all Trojans unite! (Trojan drums in the background)

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Congrats to Troy def an improvement from last year

BUT

GS has given up 40 points in the 4th qtr in games we won by 20 points or more. Basically at best a series or two of some #1's a lot of 2 teamers and some third string guys in on D in the fourth. GS has the highest total D on ESPN. Not saying our first team would have pitched shutouts but definitely skewed.

Not sure if this is the same for App giving up points in garbage time.

Troy's run D is 93 in the country. I was shocked to see GS was 53 in passing yds per game though it was way worse than that. That is technically above average for the FBS....doesn't seem right though. So our achilles heal seems to be a little less weak than yours.
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(11-09-2015 10:45 AM)SBEagle Wrote:  I'm glad Troy is moving in the right direction. Troy was one of the programs that appealed to me when discussing joining the Belt. Our fans and other people in our state know who Troy is and know the history of good football. I grew tired of explaining to friends who Elon was.
Or that Wofford's mascot was really a Terrier, not The Terrors...
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(11-09-2015 01:36 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Troy's run D is 93 in the country. I was shocked to see GS was 53 in passing yds per game though it was way worse than that. That is technically above average for the FBS....doesn't seem right though. So our achilles heal seems to be a little less weak than yours.

We're 62rd in rush yards per play. We're 93rd in total rush yards given up. Teams have not passed nearly as much on Troy's defense as they have tried to run. Being only 0.01 behind GS in the conference rush defense is quite a feat since so many teams have tried to run on us. CSU ran 60 times on Troy, Wisconsin, NCSTATE, and Miss State relied heavily on their run game. We'll give up more vs GS than any, but we'll have at least some success stopping it I think.

We're 38th in rush yards per play if you hit the vs conference teams only button. I don't know if that's a meaningful stat or not, but it's worth looking at.

You're 86th in yards per attempt vs the pass.
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(11-09-2015 10:41 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 10:33 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  lol. I always laugh when people think that odds are based on how good Vegas thinks teams are.

I understand it to a certain degree. Lines are made to induce betting and ensure the house doesn't lose money. I could be wrong on that. That said, "vegas" is right more often than anyone in the country.

Vegas is just sitting there smiling with all those -6 bets rolling in on GS. They could slow it down at -7 but sometimes they take positions on games when they are confident they have an edge.

We'll see if Billy Walters or other syndicates step in an make them move it.

It is a market folks . . . and there is information to be gained from the number.

Go try to find a publicly available prediction maker or system that consistently beats the Vegas lines and you can move to Vegas and get filthy rich. You cannot.

The Vegas line is the single best indicator of probable outcome of games because there are smart people with deep pockets and quants and computers working for them trying to take Vegas's money all the time. Yet Vegas is still there, offering the same juice as they have for years.
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(11-09-2015 07:26 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  there are smart people with deep pockets and quants and computers working for them trying to take Vegas's money all the time.

Many relying on Seminole Indian's insight.
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(11-09-2015 07:57 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 07:26 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  there are smart people with deep pockets and quants and computers working for them trying to take Vegas's money all the time.

Many relying on Seminole Indian's insight.

Not Billy, he's way too smart for that blowhard Seminole.



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(11-09-2015 12:05 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(11-08-2015 11:25 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(11-08-2015 11:04 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  This is sooooo awesome. Troy fans finally returning to form just in time for the Georgia Southern fans.

All I see is Troy fans excited about the future.

Oh no, you are returning to form. Only Troy fans would turn a game featuring a 3-6 team and a 6-2 team into a game that is certain to be close and well played.

In fact, you've got the Georgia Southern fans confused. They don't quite know what they are witnessing here.

Count me in...No hate for Troy but lawd if they win I think this board is going to blow up something fierce with a lot of folks with Trojan in their usernames. One can almost feel them lurking as we speak, waiting patiently in the shadows..
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(11-09-2015 03:02 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 01:36 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Troy's run D is 93 in the country. I was shocked to see GS was 53 in passing yds per game though it was way worse than that. That is technically above average for the FBS....doesn't seem right though. So our achilles heal seems to be a little less weak than yours.

We're 62rd in rush yards per play. We're 93rd in total rush yards given up. Teams have not passed nearly as much on Troy's defense as they have tried to run. Being only 0.01 behind GS in the conference rush defense is quite a feat since so many teams have tried to run on us. CSU ran 60 times on Troy, Wisconsin, NCSTATE, and Miss State relied heavily on their run game. We'll give up more vs GS than any, but we'll have at least some success stopping it I think.

We're 38th in rush yards per play if you hit the vs conference teams only button. I don't know if that's a meaningful stat or not, but it's worth looking at.

You're 86th in yards per attempt vs the pass.

If App got 248 I dont see us getting less. Their run game is solid but not near ours. We will see, Troy certainly has gotten better since the beginning of the year. Our DB's have not made a lot of outstanding plays but they do not let bad decisions or bad throws go unpunished much. As much as y'all throw I would be shocked not to get at least two picks. Fritz is good with half time adjustments usually so the beginning of the third quarter will likely be the most telling if things do not go well in the first half.
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(11-10-2015 09:14 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 12:05 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(11-08-2015 11:25 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(11-08-2015 11:04 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  This is sooooo awesome. Troy fans finally returning to form just in time for the Georgia Southern fans.

All I see is Troy fans excited about the future.

Oh no, you are returning to form. Only Troy fans would turn a game featuring a 3-6 team and a 6-2 team into a game that is certain to be close and well played.

In fact, you've got the Georgia Southern fans confused. They don't quite know what they are witnessing here.

Count me in...No hate for Troy but lawd if they win I think this board is going to blow up something fierce with a lot of folks with Trojan in their usernames. One can almost feel them lurking as we speak, waiting patiently in the shadows..

We have been waiting long enough
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Welp.
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So...about that top ranked defense?
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Man... This is awkward...
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Sorry guys we have some fans that get consumed with numbers. Our defense is clearly better than they were last year, but it's not extremely talented. Recruiting will help that.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.
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Well, there's apparently a new team at the top in scoring defense for the conference.
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Unless I'm missing something, aren't we still at the top in total defense and scoring defense?

ESPN is showing us giving up 321 ypg and 18.5 ppg, while GS is at 342 ypg and 22.8 ppg.
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(11-15-2015 12:04 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  Unless I'm missing something, aren't we still at the top in total defense and scoring defense?

ESPN is showing us giving up 321 ypg and 18.5 ppg, while GS is at 342 ypg and 22.8 ppg.

that is correct
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(11-15-2015 12:04 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  Unless I'm missing something, aren't we still at the top in total defense and scoring defense?

ESPN is showing us giving up 321 ypg and 18.5 ppg, while GS is at 342 ypg and 22.8 ppg.

Don't assume he was referring to us.
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(11-15-2015 12:12 PM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  
(11-15-2015 12:04 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  Unless I'm missing something, aren't we still at the top in total defense and scoring defense?

ESPN is showing us giving up 321 ypg and 18.5 ppg, while GS is at 342 ypg and 22.8 ppg.

Don't assume he was referring to us.
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