Halftime: UMASS 13, Akron 7. Reminds me somewhat of our game with Akron last week. Defenses ruling the day so far.

I got the game on. Definitely not MACtion, as we know it and love it.

Akron needs Bowden to step in and take control of the offense from the OC.

I'd say having Woodson run it more was a good adjustment. UMASS D is thin, and they seem a little tired.

Akron pulls it out! And Miami may finallly win a game against EMU......Miami up 28-13 in 4Q with 270 yards rushing so far!

.....and Miami finally WINS 28-13! (I don't get to say that very often, guys, so forgive the CAPS!).

(11-07-2015 05:40 PM)exCincy Kid1 Wrote:  .....and Miami finally WINS 28-13! (I don't get to say that very often, guys, so forgive the CAPS!).

Gratz to Miami, and poor EMU. I thought their new coach would have made some progress this year.

NIUSox10: The EMU defense up front is pretty bad as evidenced by our 290 yards rushing..not something this Miami team has been doing too often (if ever!). Actually, we do have some talented underclassmen RB's, but our OL has been inconsistent to be sure. We had 9 sacks of EMU QB today, an all time record I think...that's what kept EMU mostly out of the endzone. Coming into the game EMU was in the top third of the MAC in offense stats.

(11-07-2015 06:15 PM)exCincy Kid1 Wrote:  NIUSox10: The EMU defense up front is pretty bad as evidenced by our 290 yards rushing..not something this Miami team has been doing too often (if ever!). Actually, we do have some talented underclassmen RB's, but our OL has been inconsistent to be sure. We had 9 sacks of EMU QB today, an all time record I think...that's what kept EMU mostly out of the endzone. Coming into the game EMU was in the top third of the MAC in offense stats.

Both of EMUs Starting OTs are injured and didn't play. No excuses.though. The OL struggled but the defense is horrendous. Only will lose about 4 starting seniors though so at least we can hope for better.

Over 12K reported in attendance for MIA. Looked more like 3k. Knock EMU all you want for poor attendance but the at least they don't over inflate with imaginary ticket sales. The reality is that most MAC teams are in the same boat (is there really a difference between 5k and 20k when the big boys are pulling in 80k?)

(11-07-2015 07:00 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(11-07-2015 06:15 PM)exCincy Kid1 Wrote:  NIUSox10: The EMU defense up front is pretty bad as evidenced by our 290 yards rushing..not something this Miami team has been doing too often (if ever!). Actually, we do have some talented underclassmen RB's, but our OL has been inconsistent to be sure. We had 9 sacks of EMU QB today, an all time record I think...that's what kept EMU mostly out of the endzone. Coming into the game EMU was in the top third of the MAC in offense stats.

Both of EMUs Starting OTs are injured and didn't play. No excuses.though. The OL struggled but the defense is horrendous. Only will lose about 4 starting seniors though so at least we can hope for better.

Over 12K reported in attendance for MIA. Looked more like 3k. Knock EMU all you want for poor attendance but the at least they don't over inflate with imaginary ticket sales. The reality is that most MAC teams are in the same boat (is there really a difference between 5k and 20k when the big boys are pulling in 80k?)

Yes, there is a difference. Any D1 college should be drawing more than local high schools (which in NEO is around 5,000 for the good bigger schools). While 20,000 doesn't seem like a lot compared to the P5 schools. It's at least the benchmark that you have a decent following.

BTW, Akron is also nowhere near that mark, either.

Wooden Nickle: Miami reports tickets sold plus students in attendance, not "butts in seats". So, they count season tix holders and probably got some corporate sponsor ticket blocks sold today. And I do not think you've seen any Miami fans on these boards lately knocking EMU for attendance...people who live in "glass" houses......well, you know the rest. Our attendance has been pathetic for years now.......to think we averaged 25K per game in Big Ben's last year in 2003, and that was a legit figure.

BTW, EMU's place-kicker is a beast! He can really kick.....two long FG's of 49 and 55 yards today. Your punter is good, too (44 yard avg).

(11-07-2015 07:10 PM)exCincy Kid1 Wrote:  Wooden Nickle: Miami reports tickets sold plus students in attendance, not "butts in seats". So, they count season tix holders and probably got some corporate sponsor ticket blocks sold today. And I do not think you've seen any Miami fans on these boards lately knocking EMU for attendance...people who live in "glass" houses......well, you know the rest.

BTW, EMU's place-kicker is a beast! He can really kick.....two long FG's today.

I'm guessing it is mainly corporate sponsor tickets to make an 8,000 difference.

Akron inflated their numbers for years by going that route. Last year, they went the EMU "butts in the seats reporting", which got them a bunch of " lowest attendance in the nation" negative PR.

This year, since they are going to have to buy back tickets anyway, decided to give out 8,000 tickets to each game to recent graduates. Not a bad strategy if you will have to buy back tickets at the end of the year anyway. Even if only 10 percent of those are used, its still better than 0 percent and you have to pay for them anyway. Plus, whatever are used helps in terms of concessions.

I'm sure somebody has the numbers, I haven't paid attention, but I'm guessing Akron's attendance will be about three times higher this year (after the Kent game) than what it was last year. Even if a bulk of that is bogus, beats having the lowest attendance in the country articles.

I guess bottom line, while EMU's reporting may be the noble thing to do. There isn't much incentive not to cook the books with attendance numbers if you are struggling.

Great to see Akron pull off the win to keep Umass winless in their final season of using the MAC. So long, you guys won't be missed.

(11-07-2015 07:00 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  ..... The reality is that most MAC teams are in the same boat (is there really a difference between 5k and 20k when the big boys are pulling in 80k?)

Bragging about having the largest attendance in the MAC is like bragging about being the tallest Munchen in Oz

(11-07-2015 08:19 PM)T-Town Wrote:  

(11-07-2015 07:00 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  ..... The reality is that most MAC teams are in the same boat (is there really a difference between 5k and 20k when the big boys are pulling in 80k?)

Bragging about having the largest attendance in the MAC is like bragging about being the tallest Munchen in Oz

Every fan base should try to have the best attendence in the league for bragging rights.... Just like every team should try to win the league to have bragging rights. By saying it doesnt matter takes away from the motivation to attain greater heights. We could also say the MACC is meaningless versus the big boy conf chamipnships.

You should see the AAC board, I think attendance means more than their teams record.

(11-07-2015 08:59 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  You should see the AAC board, I think attendance means more than their teams record.

That's because some of them will be going to the P5, based in part on their attendance figures.

(11-07-2015 09:05 PM)Zipfanatik Wrote:  

(11-07-2015 08:59 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  You should see the AAC board, I think attendance means more than their teams record.

That's because some of them will be going to the P5, based in part on their attendance figures.

Yep, good attendance and Big TV markets is a nice recipe of moving up, when a spot opens.

Surprised no one has mentioned Memphis losing to Navy today. Along with MSU falling to Nebraska, LSU about to lose to Alabama, and TCU losing, there's going to be some shakeup in the Top 25.

Almost forgot: Ole Miss fell to Arkansas in OT, 53-52.

Lets play what if for a second, fun fun.

1) CMU beats Cuse in OT (lost by 3) and goes 2-2 in OOC with their losses to undefeated oSu by 11 and undefeated MSU by 20.
2) Umass knocks off Temple early (lost by 2), eliminates them from rankings with 2 losses.
3) BGSU beats Memphis (lost by 3) to go 3-1 in OOC and eliminates them from rankings with 2 losses. Only loss to Tenn.
4) NIU beats BC (lost by 3) and goes 3-1 in OOC with only loss to OSU by 7.
5) Ohio beats Minn (lost by 3) and goes 4-0 in OOC.

This would have put:

NIU 3-1 win over BC
Ohio 4-0 win over Minn
Toledo 3-0 win over Ark and Iowa St
BGSU 3-1 win over Memphis, Purdue, Maryland
CMU 2-2 win over Cuse

Assume same in conf results, except we dont choke in the 3rd vs CMU:

Toledo 7-1 ranked
BGSU 8-1 ranked
NIU 7-1 ranked

Memphis and Temple not in picture due to losses noted above.

So close to a banner year.

(11-07-2015 11:41 PM)CMichFan Wrote:  Surprised no one has mentioned Memphis losing to Navy today. Along with MSU falling to Nebraska, LSU about to lose to Alabama, and TCU losing, there's going to be some shakeup in the Top 25.

Almost forgot: Ole Miss fell to Arkansas in OT, 53-52.

Need to check Houston's schedule on out but the Access Bowl is getting more interesting by the day (after Toledo's loss, Temple's loss, Memphis' loss).

If Houston loses, is it completely up for grabs?