Bottom line..we've had all types leave. I'm done thinking about it.

(11-06-2015 03:43 PM)cmt Wrote:  OMG how can you possibly think that Pastner is more powerful than the entire NBA draft system and can keep someone from being in the NBA? If Nichols or Thomas or Jackson or King or Crawford or on and on and on could play at that level, there is no doubt in my mind that they would be. Better players have had worse coaches than Pastner. Calipari, with all his amazing recruits, bombed out over and over before Rose showed up. And even then, he never did better than Dana Kirk or Gene Bartow. Washington, Wagner, Banks, etc, etc, etc. Calipari didn't miss those shots.

If you got it, you got it. Tyreke, Rose, Hardaway, Perry, Wright, McDowell, Finch etc, they had it. You could see it without even trying. Maybe one of these Lawsons or maybe Marshall or a surprise will be one of those that can play at the next level. We'll have a decent idea after tonight.

You can blame the coach for recruiting players, you can blame him for poor coaching, but the players have to play and the really good ones are good regardless of the coach.

NBA 1st round draft picks get paid based on a set salary scale. It makes sense to transfer if you think it is going to increase your draft spot. Yes, coaching, systems, and results all make a difference of where a player is drafted, outside of the elite 5-7 players every year. AN is not in that elite 5-7, so I do not blame him for leaving if he believes it puts him in a better position to get drafted higher, the difference between...

(11-06-2015 03:32 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 11:09 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 11:01 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  It hasn't dawned on me until I saw that projected lineup: this may be our shallowest roster in a decade. Woof.

Maybe a good thing.

In CBB, one really only needs 8 or 9 players max.

Pastner won't be able to try to play 11 people, change rotations constantly and not stick with something consistent.

He has his starting five, then can insert Markel, KJ, Kedren and Nick as needed.

Yeah, but we've only got 5-6 that belong in a high major rotation at this point.

There will be injuries, foul trouble, tendinitis, suspensions down the road this season, then we'll be extremely short handed.

C'mon...High level wise there Tarrant, Lawson (s), Shaq, Burrell, Markel and Kedren. Top 100 recruits coming in (almost by definition high-major) Martin and Marshall. Woodson is a fine shooter. That's 10.

(11-06-2015 03:43 PM)cmt Wrote:  OMG how can you possibly think that Pastner is more powerful than the entire NBA draft system and can keep someone from being in the NBA? If Nichols or Thomas or Jackson or King or Crawford or on and on and on could play at that level, there is no doubt in my mind that they would be. Better players have had worse coaches than Pastner. Calipari, with all his amazing recruits, bombed out over and over before Rose showed up. And even then, he never did better than Dana Kirk or Gene Bartow. Washington, Wagner, Banks, etc, etc, etc. Calipari didn't miss those shots.

If you got it, you got it. Tyreke, Rose, Hardaway, Perry, Wright, McDowell, Finch etc, they had it. You could see it without even trying. Maybe one of these Lawsons or maybe Marshall or a surprise will be one of those that can play at the next level. We'll have a decent idea after tonight.

You can blame the coach for recruiting players, you can blame him for poor coaching, but the players have to play and the really good ones are good regardless of the coach.

I agree with a lot of what you said, but if you're calling two straight Elite Eights bombing out, I'd like some of THAT bombing out for a change.

And making your opponent in the championship game hit an incredible 3-point shot to send it into overtime is a pretty good bit better than getting blown out in the second half or not even making it to the game in the first place in most people's opinion.

Shoulda stuck with "players gotta make shots."

(11-06-2015 05:45 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 03:43 PM)cmt Wrote:  OMG how can you possibly think that Pastner is more powerful than the entire NBA draft system and can keep someone from being in the NBA? If Nichols or Thomas or Jackson or King or Crawford or on and on and on could play at that level, there is no doubt in my mind that they would be. Better players have had worse coaches than Pastner. Calipari, with all his amazing recruits, bombed out over and over before Rose showed up. And even then, he never did better than Dana Kirk or Gene Bartow. Washington, Wagner, Banks, etc, etc, etc. Calipari didn't miss those shots.

If you got it, you got it. Tyreke, Rose, Hardaway, Perry, Wright, McDowell, Finch etc, they had it. You could see it without even trying. Maybe one of these Lawsons or maybe Marshall or a surprise will be one of those that can play at the next level. We'll have a decent idea after tonight.

You can blame the coach for recruiting players, you can blame him for poor coaching, but the players have to play and the really good ones are good regardless of the coach.

I agree with a lot of what you said, but if you're calling two straight Elite Eights bombing out, I'd like some of THAT bombing out for a change.

And making your opponent in the championship game hit an incredible 3-point shot to send it into overtime is a pretty good bit better than getting blown out in the second half or not even making it to the game in the first place in most people's opinion.

Shoulda stuck with "players gotta make shots."

First of all, I was talking about NBA when I said bombed out. Wagner, Washington and several others were considered NBA prospects when recruited. As for an incredible 3 point shot, the end result was the same as the 73 team.

Getting to the final four once is great! But my point was even the great and powerful Calipari could only do it with real live NBA players (Derrick Rose). With out a real NBA player, taking home a championship is impossible. Kansas had 2 and one on the bench.

And, Austin Nichols and Nick King are not NBA players. Both are too short and slow and can't dribble and just are not talented enough. So, going to Alabama and Virginia won't speed them up or grow them taller or make them more talented. Besides, the NBA will find you even at Murray State or Davidson. Wasting your college years wandering around because daddy thinks you are something you are not does not make the college basketball experience fun for the player, the family, the coaches or the fans.

(11-06-2015 06:06 PM)cmt Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 05:45 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 03:43 PM)cmt Wrote:  OMG how can you possibly think that Pastner is more powerful than the entire NBA draft system and can keep someone from being in the NBA? If Nichols or Thomas or Jackson or King or Crawford or on and on and on could play at that level, there is no doubt in my mind that they would be. Better players have had worse coaches than Pastner. Calipari, with all his amazing recruits, bombed out over and over before Rose showed up. And even then, he never did better than Dana Kirk or Gene Bartow. Washington, Wagner, Banks, etc, etc, etc. Calipari didn't miss those shots.

If you got it, you got it. Tyreke, Rose, Hardaway, Perry, Wright, McDowell, Finch etc, they had it. You could see it without even trying. Maybe one of these Lawsons or maybe Marshall or a surprise will be one of those that can play at the next level. We'll have a decent idea after tonight.

You can blame the coach for recruiting players, you can blame him for poor coaching, but the players have to play and the really good ones are good regardless of the coach.

I agree with a lot of what you said, but if you're calling two straight Elite Eights bombing out, I'd like some of THAT bombing out for a change.

And making your opponent in the championship game hit an incredible 3-point shot to send it into overtime is a pretty good bit better than getting blown out in the second half or not even making it to the game in the first place in most people's opinion.

Shoulda stuck with "players gotta make shots."

First of all, I was talking about NBA when I said bombed out. Wagner, Washington and several others were considered NBA prospects when recruited. As for an incredible 3 point shot, the end result was the same as the 73 team.

Getting to the final four once is great! But my point was even the great and powerful Calipari could only do it with real live NBA players (Derrick Rose). With out a real NBA player, taking home a championship is impossible. Kansas had 2 and one on the bench.

And, Austin Nichols and Nick King are not NBA players. Both are too short and slow and can't dribble and just are not talented enough. So, going to Alabama and Virginia won't speed them up or grow them taller or make them more talented. Besides, the NBA will find you even at Murray State or Davidson. Wasting your college years wandering around because daddy thinks you are something you are not does not make the college basketball experience fun for the player, the family, the coaches or the fans.

The cheap shots at Austin Nichols and his family are both crazy and complete fiction.

(11-06-2015 01:30 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 10:37 AM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 10:28 AM)Smith Wrote:  "Freshman PF Dedric Lawson: Lawson wouldn't have been the starter at power forward to begin the year if Austin Nichols hadn't transferred to Virginia. But he's more than capable of shining in the role now with Nichols gone."

This has got to hurt. Sitting out the year while another guy takes your place on your team and stars. Ouch!

I must have somehow missed it.. what was the reason Nichols actually transferred?

Some believe it is because his dad is a controlling A-hole who was not beyond taking advantage of his son during a period of strong emotional distress

The *rumor I heard* involved more moving pieces than that.

Everybody forgets there was a girl (cheerleader) involved in the equation.

Next was a certain player on the team not named Austin.

Upset Austin. Can't cope Austin.

(11-06-2015 06:32 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 01:30 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 10:37 AM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 10:28 AM)Smith Wrote:  "Freshman PF Dedric Lawson: Lawson wouldn't have been the starter at power forward to begin the year if Austin Nichols hadn't transferred to Virginia. But he's more than capable of shining in the role now with Nichols gone."

This has got to hurt. Sitting out the year while another guy takes your place on your team and stars. Ouch!

I must have somehow missed it.. what was the reason Nichols actually transferred?

Some believe it is because his dad is a controlling A-hole who was not beyond taking advantage of his son during a period of strong emotional distress

The *rumor I heard* involved more moving pieces than that.

Everybody forgets there was a girl (cheerleader) involved in the equation.

Next was a certain player on the team not named Austin.

Upset Austin. Can't cope Austin.

You have no clue. Key word *rumor*.

(11-06-2015 06:31 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 06:06 PM)cmt Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 05:45 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 03:43 PM)cmt Wrote:  OMG how can you possibly think that Pastner is more powerful than the entire NBA draft system and can keep someone from being in the NBA? If Nichols or Thomas or Jackson or King or Crawford or on and on and on could play at that level, there is no doubt in my mind that they would be. Better players have had worse coaches than Pastner. Calipari, with all his amazing recruits, bombed out over and over before Rose showed up. And even then, he never did better than Dana Kirk or Gene Bartow. Washington, Wagner, Banks, etc, etc, etc. Calipari didn't miss those shots.

If you got it, you got it. Tyreke, Rose, Hardaway, Perry, Wright, McDowell, Finch etc, they had it. You could see it without even trying. Maybe one of these Lawsons or maybe Marshall or a surprise will be one of those that can play at the next level. We'll have a decent idea after tonight.

You can blame the coach for recruiting players, you can blame him for poor coaching, but the players have to play and the really good ones are good regardless of the coach.

I agree with a lot of what you said, but if you're calling two straight Elite Eights bombing out, I'd like some of THAT bombing out for a change.

And making your opponent in the championship game hit an incredible 3-point shot to send it into overtime is a pretty good bit better than getting blown out in the second half or not even making it to the game in the first place in most people's opinion.

Shoulda stuck with "players gotta make shots."

First of all, I was talking about NBA when I said bombed out. Wagner, Washington and several others were considered NBA prospects when recruited. As for an incredible 3 point shot, the end result was the same as the 73 team.

Getting to the final four once is great! But my point was even the great and powerful Calipari could only do it with real live NBA players (Derrick Rose). With out a real NBA player, taking home a championship is impossible. Kansas had 2 and one on the bench.

And, Austin Nichols and Nick King are not NBA players. Both are too short and slow and can't dribble and just are not talented enough. So, going to Alabama and Virginia won't speed them up or grow them taller or make them more talented. Besides, the NBA will find you even at Murray State or Davidson. Wasting your college years wandering around because daddy thinks you are something you are not does not make the college basketball experience fun for the player, the family, the coaches or the fans.

The cheap shots at Austin Nichols and his family are both crazy and complete fiction.

I'm getting excited to see how this team plays together, GO!!! TIGERS !!!!

(11-06-2015 06:59 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 06:32 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 01:30 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 10:37 AM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 10:28 AM)Smith Wrote:  "Freshman PF Dedric Lawson: Lawson wouldn't have been the starter at power forward to begin the year if Austin Nichols hadn't transferred to Virginia. But he's more than capable of shining in the role now with Nichols gone."

This has got to hurt. Sitting out the year while another guy takes your place on your team and stars. Ouch!

I must have somehow missed it.. what was the reason Nichols actually transferred?

Some believe it is because his dad is a controlling A-hole who was not beyond taking advantage of his son during a period of strong emotional distress

The *rumor I heard* involved more moving pieces than that.

Everybody forgets there was a girl (cheerleader) involved in the equation.

Next was a certain player on the team not named Austin.

Upset Austin. Can't cope Austin.

You have no clue. Key word *rumor*.

Did I say I believed it or knew it to be true?

Hence the emphasis on rumor. Mad at me for hearing it. Sheesh

Expected line-up for our Tigers..

PG - Johnny Wang - Transfer - Little Rock Community College - 5'3"
SG - Stephen Smith - Walk On - Smyrna, Tennessee - 5'11"
SF - Cyrus Jones - Transfer - McKenzie State (Spent 1 year in Lewis County Correctional Facility) - 6'2"
PF - Jimmy Wang (Johnny's brother) - Walk On - Little Rock, Arkansas - 6'4"
C - Abul Abudobu - Freshman - Kenya - 8'2"

Expected attendance - 2,451

(11-06-2015 07:12 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  Expected line-up for our Tigers..

PG - Johnny Wang - Transfer - Little Rock Community College - 5'3"
SG - Stephen Smith - Walk On - Smyrna, Tennessee - 5'11"
SF - Cyrus Jones - Transfer - McKenzie State (Spent 1 year in Lewis County Correctional Facility) - 6'2"
PF - Jimmy Wang (Johnny's brother) - Walk On - Little Rock, Arkansas - 6'4"
C - Abul Abudobu - Freshman - Kenya - 8'2"

Expected attendance - 2,451

You can't teach 8 feet.

(11-06-2015 07:05 PM)MonsterTigerBlue Wrote:  I'm getting excited to see how this team plays together, GO!!! TIGERS !!!!

I was listening to Pastner in practice and he gave the analogy of an Energy Bus with every tire having the exact same amount of air pressure. I was inspired to say the least

(11-06-2015 07:24 PM)alcalde Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 07:05 PM)MonsterTigerBlue Wrote:  I'm getting excited to see how this team plays together, GO!!! TIGERS !!!!

I was listening to Pastner in practice and he gave the analogy of an Energy Bus with every tire having the exact same amount of air pressure. I was inspired to say the least

Did the bus have rocket boosters on the back JUST IN CASE it needs to launch and head towards space??

http://www.gotigersgo.com/watch/?Live=73

(11-06-2015 10:15 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  anywhere to watch the game?

And the fact that Avery Woodson is still starting is concerning.

Anybody else not able to get the site to work?

Yep. Won't work.

(11-06-2015 06:59 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 06:31 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 06:06 PM)cmt Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 05:45 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 03:43 PM)cmt Wrote:  OMG how can you possibly think that Pastner is more powerful than the entire NBA draft system and can keep someone from being in the NBA? If Nichols or Thomas or Jackson or King or Crawford or on and on and on could play at that level, there is no doubt in my mind that they would be. Better players have had worse coaches than Pastner. Calipari, with all his amazing recruits, bombed out over and over before Rose showed up. And even then, he never did better than Dana Kirk or Gene Bartow. Washington, Wagner, Banks, etc, etc, etc. Calipari didn't miss those shots.

If you got it, you got it. Tyreke, Rose, Hardaway, Perry, Wright, McDowell, Finch etc, they had it. You could see it without even trying. Maybe one of these Lawsons or maybe Marshall or a surprise will be one of those that can play at the next level. We'll have a decent idea after tonight.

You can blame the coach for recruiting players, you can blame him for poor coaching, but the players have to play and the really good ones are good regardless of the coach.

I agree with a lot of what you said, but if you're calling two straight Elite Eights bombing out, I'd like some of THAT bombing out for a change.

And making your opponent in the championship game hit an incredible 3-point shot to send it into overtime is a pretty good bit better than getting blown out in the second half or not even making it to the game in the first place in most people's opinion.

Shoulda stuck with "players gotta make shots."

First of all, I was talking about NBA when I said bombed out. Wagner, Washington and several others were considered NBA prospects when recruited. As for an incredible 3 point shot, the end result was the same as the 73 team.

Getting to the final four once is great! But my point was even the great and powerful Calipari could only do it with real live NBA players (Derrick Rose). With out a real NBA player, taking home a championship is impossible. Kansas had 2 and one on the bench.

And, Austin Nichols and Nick King are not NBA players. Both are too short and slow and can't dribble and just are not talented enough. So, going to Alabama and Virginia won't speed them up or grow them taller or make them more talented. Besides, the NBA will find you even at Murray State or Davidson. Wasting your college years wandering around because daddy thinks you are something you are not does not make the college basketball experience fun for the player, the family, the coaches or the fans.

The cheap shots at Austin Nichols and his family are both crazy and complete fiction.

It is sad how those who think Pastner is bigger than the University always slam our players.

I bought it too, on the first 10 Players

This should end the Austin leaving bs:

If Austin's first year would have been a final 8 appearance and his second year would have ended in a sweet 16 appearance, would Austin have transferred? (both of these were very realistic given the talent on the teams)

the Answer is, of course, NO!

At the end of the day Austin left because he realized JOSH CAN'T COACH ---

STOP the Slander on Memphis players! --it is sad, unproductive and untrue.

THE PROBLEM IS YOUR IDOL CAN'T COACH!

(11-06-2015 08:25 PM)Pastnerized Wrote:  Yep. Won't work.

Working now!