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RE: If Carey takes another HC position...
Agree that Canada would be plan A. Niemann would be your in-house candidate. Brock Spack is your Ron Swanson lookalike pick- so I'm definitely on that bandwagon.

Beyond that- guys from the Sumlin/Holgerson/Dykes school of offense don't really fit NIU's style, and are only a little preferable to pro style guys. And as we know from Doeren, when you're talking about a defensive coach, his offensive preferences may have nothing to do with the offense run at the place he works.
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RE: If Carey takes another HC position...
For the umpteenth time...you don't have to pay more for a coach here. Please stop with this madness. Guys will gladly take this job at a salary we can afford...it's a golden ticket so long as you don't completely bomb out. Sustainable, successful, system.

Another name to throw in the hat...Sam Pittman
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RE: If Carey takes another HC position...
Why not a Doeren assistant?
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RE: If Carey takes another HC position...
Hopefully someone takes him!

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RE: If Carey takes another HC position...
(11-06-2015 10:10 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  Why not a Doeren assistant?

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(11-06-2015 03:42 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 03:39 PM)7 Wrote:  If for some reason Canada didn't want the job (I don't think there's anyway he wouldn't), Thomas Hammock is another guy who I imagine would be high on the list. Coached at Wisconsin, in the NFL, NIU ties. I think Canada is the guy, though.

Wouldn't you think that he would change the Offensive system?
Probably, yes, but short of hiring Canada or promoting Niemann they likely don't have many options.

With how much Frazier has talked about "the system" at NIU, like I mentioned earlier, Canada will be the guy if he wants it.
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(11-06-2015 07:32 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 05:37 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  I know it has been mentioned, and would be a departure from the current system....but the Peej.

My Sarcasm Meter is off tonight. Can't believe you're serious about this.

First, he's not leaving WMU for NIU with the contract he has. Second, why would we want that Freak Show in DeKalb?
If it wasn't for the big contract extension he got, I honestly could see it.

Frazier has never been bashful about wanting to shoot for the downs. Fleck would seem to fit with that. It's an absolutely crazy thought, yes, and I'm not saying I would want it, but it wouldn't have totally shocked me.

The extension he got likely priced himself out of NIU. You're talking about having to pay Fleck 7 figures, which I just can't see NIU doing.
11-06-2015 11:31 PM
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RE: If Carey takes another HC position...
If we went with PJ I think you would see a year with no more than 6/7 wins wits the changing to prostyle offense. No thanks. Wouldn't mind seeing Chris Ash either as an option.
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If Carey takes another HC position...
(11-06-2015 11:31 PM)7 Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 07:32 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 05:37 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  I know it has been mentioned, and would be a departure from the current system....but the Peej.

My Sarcasm Meter is off tonight. Can't believe you're serious about this.

First, he's not leaving WMU for NIU with the contract he has. Second, why would we want that Freak Show in DeKalb?
If it wasn't for the big contract extension he got, I honestly could see it.

Frazier has never been bashful about wanting to shoot for the downs. Fleck would seem to fit with that. It's an absolutely crazy thought, yes, and I'm not saying I would want it, but it wouldn't have totally shocked me.

The extension he got likely priced himself out of NIU. You're talking about having to pay Fleck 7 figures, which I just can't see NIU doing.

Call me old-fashioned, but hasn't Peej become the opposite type of HC that NIU has succeeded with over the last 10+ years.

Novak, Kill, Doeren, Carey, Fleck.

One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong.....
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RE: If Carey takes another HC position...
Canada might get better offers depending on who takes what jobs..

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RE: If Carey takes another HC position...
(11-06-2015 07:32 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 05:37 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  I know it has been mentioned, and would be a departure from the current system....but the Peej.

My Sarcasm Meter is off tonight. Can't believe you're serious about this.

First, he's not leaving WMU for NIU with the contract he has. Second, why would we want that Freak Show in DeKalb?

Now PJ is a freak show? That's incredibly disrespectful to a guy who played his collegiate football in DeKalb and is one of the best players who ever graced a Huskie uniform.

PJ grew up in Kaneland and was one of the most devoted Huskies I have ever been around. He wasn't some guy who came in from Florida - he really cared about the program and loved being in DeKalb.

Fleck is a really good guy, and for those of you that don't know him, the mud you're slinging is very misplaced. PJ should be revered as a Huskie great, not loathed because he coaches an adversarial school.

What if Chandler Harnish were hired as the coach of Kent State? Do I need to start ridiculing him and make disrespectful posts towards him? Is that the understood way to treat former Huskie greats?

As to why you should want him in DeKalb; his enthusiasm, his recruiting skills, his NFL experience, his ties to the community, the corporate money he would bring in, his devotion to NIU, and his abilities as a football coach.

I know that last comment will bring ridicule - but wait and see. He took over a really bad program and his record thus far won't blow the dust off any record books, but he has a really sharp mind and he will be a great coach
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RE: If Carey takes another HC position...
(11-07-2015 12:47 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 07:32 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 05:37 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  I know it has been mentioned, and would be a departure from the current system....but the Peej.

My Sarcasm Meter is off tonight. Can't believe you're serious about this.

First, he's not leaving WMU for NIU with the contract he has. Second, why would we want that Freak Show in DeKalb?

Now PJ is a freak show? That's incredibly disrespectful to a guy who played his collegiate football in DeKalb and is one of the best players who ever graced a Huskie uniform.

PJ grew up in Kaneland and was one of the most devoted Huskies I have ever been around. He wasn't some guy who came in from Florida - he really cared about the program and loved being in DeKalb.

Fleck is a really good guy, and for those of you that don't know him, the mud you're slinging is very misplaced. PJ should be revered as a Huskie great, not loathed because he coaches an adversarial school.

What if Chandler Harnish were hired as the coach of Kent State? Do I need to start ridiculing him and make disrespectful posts towards him? Is that the understood way to treat former Huskie greats?

As to why you should want him in DeKalb; his enthusiasm, his recruiting skills, his NFL experience, his ties to the community, the corporate money he would bring in, his devotion to NIU, and his abilities as a football coach.

I know that last comment will bring ridicule - but wait and see. He took over a really bad program and his record thus far won't blow the dust off any record books, but he has a really sharp mind and he will be a great coach

PJ annoys the piss out of me. He's won recruiting wars and beaten nobody, one of your main criticisms of Carey.
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(11-06-2015 05:37 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  I know it has been mentioned, and would be a departure from the current system....but the Peej.

It makes no sense on many levels. PJ makes too much money and wants to advance.

I don't see him at NIU unless it's a retread hire (Say he flames out when he goes up to a bigger conference job....and it times well with NIU needing a coach and him needing a second chance).
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(11-07-2015 01:26 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 05:37 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  I know it has been mentioned, and would be a departure from the current system....but the Peej.

It makes no sense on many levels. PJ makes too much money and wants to advance.

I don't see him at NIU unless it's a retread hire (Say he flames out when he goes up to a bigger conference job....and it times well with NIU needing a coach and him needing a second chance).

I completely agree with what you wrote, Frisky. A lateral move would serve no purpose for Fleck or NIU right now. I do think he'll land a P5 job, and if I'm wrong about his ability and he flames out, as you suggest, then NIU might be a perfect landing spot for him - but that would be years down the road.

Good thoughts.
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(11-07-2015 01:23 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 12:47 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 07:32 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 05:37 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  I know it has been mentioned, and would be a departure from the current system....but the Peej.

My Sarcasm Meter is off tonight. Can't believe you're serious about this.

First, he's not leaving WMU for NIU with the contract he has. Second, why would we want that Freak Show in DeKalb?

Now PJ is a freak show? That's incredibly disrespectful to a guy who played his collegiate football in DeKalb and is one of the best players who ever graced a Huskie uniform.

PJ grew up in Kaneland and was one of the most devoted Huskies I have ever been around. He wasn't some guy who came in from Florida - he really cared about the program and loved being in DeKalb.

Fleck is a really good guy, and for those of you that don't know him, the mud you're slinging is very misplaced. PJ should be revered as a Huskie great, not loathed because he coaches an adversarial school.

What if Chandler Harnish were hired as the coach of Kent State? Do I need to start ridiculing him and make disrespectful posts towards him? Is that the understood way to treat former Huskie greats?

As to why you should want him in DeKalb; his enthusiasm, his recruiting skills, his NFL experience, his ties to the community, the corporate money he would bring in, his devotion to NIU, and his abilities as a football coach.

I know that last comment will bring ridicule - but wait and see. He took over a really bad program and his record thus far won't blow the dust off any record books, but he has a really sharp mind and he will be a great coach

PJ annoys the piss out of me. He's won recruiting wars and beaten nobody, one of your main criticisms of Carey.

True that WMU has beaten nobody, but PJ inherited a miserable team with an empty cupboard. Carey inherited a team playing in the Orange Bowl.
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(11-07-2015 02:18 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 01:23 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 12:47 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 07:32 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 05:37 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  I know it has been mentioned, and would be a departure from the current system....but the Peej.

My Sarcasm Meter is off tonight. Can't believe you're serious about this.

First, he's not leaving WMU for NIU with the contract he has. Second, why would we want that Freak Show in DeKalb?

Now PJ is a freak show? That's incredibly disrespectful to a guy who played his collegiate football in DeKalb and is one of the best players who ever graced a Huskie uniform.

PJ grew up in Kaneland and was one of the most devoted Huskies I have ever been around. He wasn't some guy who came in from Florida - he really cared about the program and loved being in DeKalb.

Fleck is a really good guy, and for those of you that don't know him, the mud you're slinging is very misplaced. PJ should be revered as a Huskie great, not loathed because he coaches an adversarial school.

What if Chandler Harnish were hired as the coach of Kent State? Do I need to start ridiculing him and make disrespectful posts towards him? Is that the understood way to treat former Huskie greats?

As to why you should want him in DeKalb; his enthusiasm, his recruiting skills, his NFL experience, his ties to the community, the corporate money he would bring in, his devotion to NIU, and his abilities as a football coach.

I know that last comment will bring ridicule - but wait and see. He took over a really bad program and his record thus far won't blow the dust off any record books, but he has a really sharp mind and he will be a great coach

PJ annoys the piss out of me. He's won recruiting wars and beaten nobody, one of your main criticisms of Carey.

True that WMU has beaten nobody, but PJ inherited a miserable team with an empty cupboard. Carey inherited a team playing in the Orange Bowl.

It's uncanny how you'll pick apart Carey and just overlook anything for your boy PJ.
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RE: If Carey takes another HC position...
He was also the same guy hyping up UNLV due to their experienced coaches.
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(11-07-2015 02:18 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 01:23 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 12:47 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 07:32 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 05:37 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  I know it has been mentioned, and would be a departure from the current system....but the Peej.

My Sarcasm Meter is off tonight. Can't believe you're serious about this.

First, he's not leaving WMU for NIU with the contract he has. Second, why would we want that Freak Show in DeKalb?

Now PJ is a freak show? That's incredibly disrespectful to a guy who played his collegiate football in DeKalb and is one of the best players who ever graced a Huskie uniform.

PJ grew up in Kaneland and was one of the most devoted Huskies I have ever been around. He wasn't some guy who came in from Florida - he really cared about the program and loved being in DeKalb.

Fleck is a really good guy, and for those of you that don't know him, the mud you're slinging is very misplaced. PJ should be revered as a Huskie great, not loathed because he coaches an adversarial school.

What if Chandler Harnish were hired as the coach of Kent State? Do I need to start ridiculing him and make disrespectful posts towards him? Is that the understood way to treat former Huskie greats?

As to why you should want him in DeKalb; his enthusiasm, his recruiting skills, his NFL experience, his ties to the community, the corporate money he would bring in, his devotion to NIU, and his abilities as a football coach.

I know that last comment will bring ridicule - but wait and see. He took over a really bad program and his record thus far won't blow the dust off any record books, but he has a really sharp mind and he will be a great coach

PJ annoys the piss out of me. He's won recruiting wars and beaten nobody, one of your main criticisms of Carey.

True that WMU has beaten nobody, but PJ inherited a miserable team with an empty cupboard. Carey inherited a team playing in the Orange Bowl.

Not true. WMU was typically a .500 team. Not an empty cupboard at all.
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RE: If Carey takes another HC position...
I was incredibly disappointed with how he handled the NIU OC/Tamapa WR coach situation. I believe he took the NIU job just in case he didn't get offered the Tampa job and then ditched us. He should not have made any decisions if Tampa was where he wanted to go. It showed immaturity on his part. Obviously I'm over it now and wish PJ all the success except against us. He gave his heart and soul to this program and loved this program more than any other player while he was in DeKalb. I would love to see him return some day to see the same passion for the Huskies...
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I will always root for NIU to destroy PJ's team(s). However I wish him tremendous success against other teams and in his coaching career. I always like to see NIU grads be successful.

At this point returning to NIU would make zero sense for his career path. He has recruited well and unless he gets a big offer at a destination job, it makes more sense for him to finish what he has started to build at WMU. PJ brings a side show with him that is not my style but he is young, he is learning and he has already dialed it back some. Beyond that he is a great recruiter, he is smart and he is improving as a coach.
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