Great article on not just Temple football,but how the sad state of affairs of pro sports in Philly is making Temple a hot commodity. David Jones is a central PA writer who covers Penn state.

http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootbal...e_owl.html

(11-05-2015 08:05 PM)taximan1 Wrote:  Great article on not just Temple football,but how the sad state of affairs of pro sports in Philly is making Temple a hot commodity. David Jones is a central PA writer who covers Penn state.

http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootbal...e_owl.html

Temple needs to establish metro Philly as it's base for recruiting. 4 & 5 star prospects from the area need to choose Temple over Pedophile U. Temple will continue to pick up recruits from NY, North Jersey, Central & Western PA and the South. But they need to lock down Southeastern PA & South Jersey as their recruiting area for sustained success.

(11-05-2015 09:15 PM)wave97 Wrote:  Temple needs to establish metro Philly as it's base for recruiting. 4 & 5 star prospects from the area need to choose Temple over Pedophile U. Temple will continue to pick up recruits from NY, North Jersey, Central & Western PA and the South. But they need to lock down Southeastern PA & South Jersey as their recruiting area for sustained success.

Unfortunately Temple will have difficulty out-recruiting PSU, and perhaps Rutgers, for the 4 star kids in the 7 county Philly metro area.

Most of the recruiting advantage PSU and other P5 schools have an advantage on is resources. It's a legal monopoly that G5 teams have to work harder to overcome. The P5 teams can afford to make mistakes on recruits where the G5 teams can't. G5 teams often have to mold the borderline 3 star kids into solid 4 star kids.

As for the 4 professional teams currently struggling, the base fans of the franchises are so entrenched, it's hard to imagine them ever failing to support the teams. I'm not sure where David Jones gets his information.

My neighbor back where I grew up in the Philly area was eventually buried in his Phillies uniform. My uncle was an Eagles season ticket holder for 65 years. My cousin, who moved away to Boston area over 25 years ago, continued buying Eagles season tickets even though he lives in New England Patriots territory.

Temple has to go on a sustained run of success. Look at UCF in Orlando now after the Fiesta Bowl a couple years back. And unlike them, they have to compete with all of the pro sports and even other colleges in the area.

This season's a nice story and I mean that with all sincerity but it will take years of sustained success and even that is no guarantee. It's just tough in pro sports markets or even college G5 ones for that matter (Boise State 4ex).

(11-05-2015 10:09 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(11-05-2015 09:15 PM)wave97 Wrote:  Temple needs to establish metro Philly as it's base for recruiting. 4 & 5 star prospects from the area need to choose Temple over Pedophile U. Temple will continue to pick up recruits from NY, North Jersey, Central & Western PA and the South. But they need to lock down Southeastern PA & South Jersey as their recruiting area for sustained success.

Unfortunately Temple will have difficulty out-recruiting PSU, and perhaps Rutgers, for the 4 star kids in the 7 county Philly metro area.

Most of the recruiting advantage PSU and other P5 schools have an advantage on is resources. It's a legal monopoly that G5 teams have to work harder to overcome. The P5 teams can afford to make mistakes on recruits where the G5 teams can't. G5 teams often have to mold the borderline 3 star kids into solid 4 star kids.

As for the 4 professional teams currently struggling, the base fans of the franchises are so entrenched, it's hard to imagine them ever failing to support the teams. I'm not sure where David Jones gets his information.

My neighbor back where I grew up in the Philly area was eventually buried in his Phillies uniform. My uncle was an Eagles season ticket holder for 65 years. My cousin, who moved away to Boston area over 25 years ago, continued buying Eagles season tickets even though he lives in New England Patriots territory.

As a general observation, NFL fans have to be some of the dumbest life forms on the planet. The game is catering to, and being consumed by wagering on irrelevant and marginally relevant statistics. Every putz watching thinks they are a Sunday afternoon Fantasy GM. It's sad to see the pandering on the part of the NFL when you have whole pregame broadcast segments dedicated to gambling on scattered statistics that have no relevance what so ever to what's happening within a particular match up.
We're watching the slow demise of football. In spite of it's current popularity, we will reflect on this period 80 years from now with the curiosity that we cast towards the former popularity of boxing & horse racing. The gig is in decline whether you want to realize it, or not.

That and the danger of playing American code football. It may be outlawed or become so dangerous fewer and fewer will play it.

Nothing like message board poster 60 years from now fiercely arguing over the NCAA LAX Tournament.

Good luck with that. The NFL is a monster. Even schools have had more sustained success over a longer period of time have failed to make their cities "CFB towns" (Miami, Georgia Tech, Pitt, Cincinnati, Houston).

The NFL casts a much wider audience of fan. For the most part fans of college football are students and alums. Schools in NFL cities can capture some t-shirt fans but they can't do it to the same level as schools like Alabama or Tennessee because they don't have to compete with an NFL franchise.

(11-05-2015 08:05 PM)taximan1 Wrote:  Great article on not just Temple football,but how the sad state of affairs of pro sports in Philly is making Temple a hot commodity. David Jones is a central PA writer who covers Penn state.

http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootbal...e_owl.html

I see you in FL now. I was born and raised in Philly. It will never be a college football town. Same for Boston, NY, DC, Pittsburgh and every other major city in the NE. The NorthEast is built on professional sports. Ain't changing.

(11-06-2015 05:30 AM)wave97 Wrote:  As a general observation, NFL fans have to be some of the dumbest life forms on the planet. The game is catering to, and being consumed by wagering on irrelevant and marginally relevant statistics. Every putz watching thinks they are a Sunday afternoon Fantasy GM. It's sad to see the pandering on the part of the NFL when you have whole pregame broadcast segments dedicated to gambling on scattered statistics that have no relevance what so ever to what's happening within a particular match up.
We're watching the slow demise of football. In spite of it's current popularity, we will reflect on this period 80 years from now with the curiosity that we cast towards the former popularity of boxing & horse racing. The gig is in decline whether you want to realize it, or not.

I understand what you are saying but have a different take on the NFL and it's popularity. IMO, the popularity comes from the so-called legal violence the game's reputation is built on.

In the past 10 to 20 years players have gotten a large percentage bigger, stronger, and faster. It's hard to find that fat, slow o-linemen, or space eating nose guard with gut hanging over gut anymore.

Whether it be steroids, HGH, or something else something has caused this rapid transition? The NFL players union has been fighting and delaying the testing of HGH, apparently for good reason. The agreed test is a facade.

The agreed testing is called "isoform test" designed to catch people if they took HGH a few hours ago, not if they took a day or two ago. The worlds anti-doping agency uses a test called "biomarkers test", a much more effective test. The NFL test caught no one while the WADA caught 15%.

All this result in "bigger and faster players also create the potential for more violent collisions and therefore more concussions, brain damage and injuries."

It is the quick change in the player makeup that has caused me to think I'm watch fake wrestling athletes then the great athletes in the past who did it on hard work alone. Look what happened in baseball once "steroids was taken out of the game". Players went from hitting 60 to 70 home runs to barely hitting 40 some years.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl.../22715375/