(11-16-2015 05:44 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 05:25 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 12:05 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  3 permanent teams.

Boston College Syracuse Louisville Wake Forest
Syracuse Boston College Pittsburgh Miami
Louisville Pittsburgh Boston College Florida State
Clemson Georgia Tech Florida State North Carolina State
Florida State Miami Clemson Louisville
Wake Forest Duke North Carolina State Boston College
North Carolina State North Carolina Wake Forest Clemson
Duke Wake Forest North Carolina Georgia Tech
North Carolina North Carolina State Duke Virginia
Virginia Tech Virginia Miami Pittsburgh
Virginia Virginia Tech Georgia Tech North Carolina
Georgia Tech Clemson Virginia Duke
Miami Florida State Virginia Tech Syracuse
Pittsburgh Louisville Syracuse Virginia Tech

Great work......I don't wish to throw in the proverbial monkey wrench into the process but..........If it were up to Carolina, our three games would be played against Dook, UVa and either Wake Forest or Georgia Tech.

Wake.

Definitely NC State for football, are you kidding?

That's why there needs to be 4 permanent rivals and an 8 game schedule.

We only play GT yearly because they joined the ACC. Before that, we had more history with Georgia and Tennessee.

(11-17-2015 09:55 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 05:44 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 05:25 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 12:05 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  3 permanent teams.

Boston College Syracuse Louisville Wake Forest
Syracuse Boston College Pittsburgh Miami
Louisville Pittsburgh Boston College Florida State
Clemson Georgia Tech Florida State North Carolina State
Florida State Miami Clemson Louisville
Wake Forest Duke North Carolina State Boston College
North Carolina State North Carolina Wake Forest Clemson
Duke Wake Forest North Carolina Georgia Tech
North Carolina North Carolina State Duke Virginia
Virginia Tech Virginia Miami Pittsburgh
Virginia Virginia Tech Georgia Tech North Carolina
Georgia Tech Clemson Virginia Duke
Miami Florida State Virginia Tech Syracuse
Pittsburgh Louisville Syracuse Virginia Tech

Great work......I don't wish to throw in the proverbial monkey wrench into the process but..........If it were up to Carolina, our three games would be played against Dook, UVa and either Wake Forest or Georgia Tech.

Wake.

Definitely NC State for football, are you kidding?

That's why there needs to be 4 permanent rivals and an 8 game schedule.

We only play GT yearly because they joined the ACC. Before that, we had more history with Georgia and Tennessee.

My bad. I thought he was asking to pick between Wake and GT. Yes, State would get that vote.

(11-16-2015 02:08 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:51 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  3-5-5

NCAA allow this to happen.

- Keep the divisions the same.
- Have 3 permanent rivals, 2 within the division, 1 cross division.
- Play 3 of 4 division members each year on a rotating basis.
- Play 2 of 6 cross division schools each year on a rotating basis.

Essentially, your cross division schedule mimics what it would be if there were 9 conference games each year. You achieve that by giving up one in division game each year.

This is a very reasonable compromise. You only miss one team/year from your own division, and two of them are guaranteed to be every year (plus your cross-over rival).

Ex. UNC would be guaranteed NC State and presumably Duke and UVa as well, and they would play Wake Forest 3 out of every 4 years. MO BETTA!

(11-16-2015 03:25 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 02:08 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 10:51 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  3-5-5

NCAA allow this to happen.

- Keep the divisions the same.
- Have 3 permanent rivals, 2 within the division, 1 cross division.
- Play 3 of 4 division members each year on a rotating basis.
- Play 2 of 6 cross division schools each year on a rotating basis.

Essentially, your cross division schedule mimics what it would be if there were 9 conference games each year. You achieve that by giving up one in division game each year.

I have no clue, but I'm thinking if anything this has the best chance.

If I'm reading this right, the permanent partners would look something like this:

Atlantic

Florida State...Clemson, Louisville, Miami
Clemson.........Florida State, NC State, Ga Tech
Louisville........Florida State, Syracuse, Va Tech
NC State........Clemson, Wake Forest, UNC
Syracuse........BC, Louisville, Pitt
BC.................Syracuse, Wake Forest, Virginia
Wake Forest....NC State, BC, Duke

Coastal

Va Tech..........Virginia, Miami, Louisville
Virginia.......... UNC, Va Tech, BC
UNC...............Virginia, Duke, NC State
Duke..............UNC, Ga Tech, Wake
Pitt................Miami, Ga Tech, Syracuse
Ga Tech..........Duke, Pitt, Clemson
Miami.............Va Tech, Pitt, Florida State

Still, not everyone will be happy, but happy isn't really possible for everybody. My concern would be how you would schedule the rotations so you don't have seasons in which a school winds up playing either all the strong opponents or all weaker ones, either virtually guaranteeing them a spot in a CCG or giving them no chance at all.

Trying to create schedules that avoid this is above my pay grade.

(11-17-2015 09:55 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 05:44 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 05:25 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 12:05 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  3 permanent teams.

Boston College Syracuse Louisville Wake Forest
Syracuse Boston College Pittsburgh Miami
Louisville Pittsburgh Boston College Florida State
Clemson Georgia Tech Florida State North Carolina State
Florida State Miami Clemson Louisville
Wake Forest Duke North Carolina State Boston College
North Carolina State North Carolina Wake Forest Clemson
Duke Wake Forest North Carolina Georgia Tech
North Carolina North Carolina State Duke Virginia
Virginia Tech Virginia Miami Pittsburgh
Virginia Virginia Tech Georgia Tech North Carolina
Georgia Tech Clemson Virginia Duke
Miami Florida State Virginia Tech Syracuse
Pittsburgh Louisville Syracuse Virginia Tech

Great work......I don't wish to throw in the proverbial monkey wrench into the process but..........If it were up to Carolina, our three games would be played against Dook, UVa and either Wake Forest or Georgia Tech.

Wake.

Definitely NC State for football, are you kidding?

That's why there needs to be 4 permanent rivals and an 8 game schedule.

We only play GT yearly because they joined the ACC. Before that, we had more history with Georgia and Tennessee.

No, I'm not kidding, you must be pretty young because NOBODY in my age bracket gives a rats rear end about playing those yokels in anything.

And the administration wants Georgia Tech on the schedule because Carolina now has more alumni in the Atlanta area than in any other place outside of the State of North Carolina (and they are well-to-do and make contributions individually and through corporations to the University as a whole, not just athletics).

(11-16-2015 06:32 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-12-2015 05:20 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  * - reserves the right to be wrong if Kaplony can publish official Clemson info stating they no longer want to play the Annual Textile Bowl.

You know full well there is no official release so you can stop with the asinine disclaimer.

But for such a "huge" rivalry game tickets for NC State last year cost the same as tickets for Syracuse. Other than the Thursday night game a few years back GT tickets have always been more expensive than any ACC game except FSU.

I see nothing asinine about the disclaimer.

(11-17-2015 12:40 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 09:55 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 05:44 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 05:25 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 12:05 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  3 permanent teams.

Boston College Syracuse Louisville Wake Forest
Syracuse Boston College Pittsburgh Miami
Louisville Pittsburgh Boston College Florida State
Clemson Georgia Tech Florida State North Carolina State
Florida State Miami Clemson Louisville
Wake Forest Duke North Carolina State Boston College
North Carolina State North Carolina Wake Forest Clemson
Duke Wake Forest North Carolina Georgia Tech
North Carolina North Carolina State Duke Virginia
Virginia Tech Virginia Miami Pittsburgh
Virginia Virginia Tech Georgia Tech North Carolina
Georgia Tech Clemson Virginia Duke
Miami Florida State Virginia Tech Syracuse
Pittsburgh Louisville Syracuse Virginia Tech

Great work......I don't wish to throw in the proverbial monkey wrench into the process but..........If it were up to Carolina, our three games would be played against Dook, UVa and either Wake Forest or Georgia Tech.

Wake.

Definitely NC State for football, are you kidding?

That's why there needs to be 4 permanent rivals and an 8 game schedule.

We only play GT yearly because they joined the ACC. Before that, we had more history with Georgia and Tennessee.

No, I'm not kidding, you must be pretty young because NOBODY in my age bracket gives a rats rear end about playing those yokels in anything.

And the administration wants Georgia Tech on the schedule because Carolina now has more alumni in the Atlanta area than in any other place outside of the State of North Carolina (and they are well-to-do and make contributions individually and through corporations to the University as a whole, not just athletics).

I'm in my early 30's and I don't know anybody that prefers playing GT over State (Wake, yes), especially the older generations. UNC scheduled State OOC in baseball, I can't see them doing that for GT.

(11-18-2015 10:50 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 12:40 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 09:55 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 05:44 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 05:25 PM)XLance Wrote:  Great work......I don't wish to throw in the proverbial monkey wrench into the process but..........If it were up to Carolina, our three games would be played against Dook, UVa and either Wake Forest or Georgia Tech.

Wake.

Definitely NC State for football, are you kidding?

That's why there needs to be 4 permanent rivals and an 8 game schedule.

We only play GT yearly because they joined the ACC. Before that, we had more history with Georgia and Tennessee.

No, I'm not kidding, you must be pretty young because NOBODY in my age bracket gives a rats rear end about playing those yokels in anything.

And the administration wants Georgia Tech on the schedule because Carolina now has more alumni in the Atlanta area than in any other place outside of the State of North Carolina (and they are well-to-do and make contributions individually and through corporations to the University as a whole, not just athletics).

I'm in my early 30's and I don't know anybody that prefers playing GT over State (Wake, yes), especially the older generations. UNC scheduled State OOC in baseball, I can't see them doing that for GT.

Like I said, nobody in my age bracket cares about playing State, we would much rather play Wake Forest or Georgia Tech along with UVa and Dook.

Well, point taken I guess. Still, the decision makers placed State as the cross-division over Wake.

BTW, in my last post I meant some people prefer to play Wake over State and GT.

How did the ACC decide who was in which division? Why not a north & south?

(11-23-2015 09:05 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  How did the ACC decide who was in which division? Why not a north & south?

well there was no real north to put in when the did the divisions since it was bc and then maryland and 2 virginia schools.

(11-23-2015 09:05 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  How did the ACC decide who was in which division? Why not a north & south?

North Carolina got to pick out the best recruiting areas and stuck Clemson and FSU with the dregs.

Divisions are only used for football and baseball. North-South divisions would have left the South top-heavy. With the 4 NC schools split plus BC and Miami (the 2 farthest schools) in opposite divisions, there may have be some effort to equalize travel. Or they may have picked names out of a hat.

(11-23-2015 09:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 09:05 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  How did the ACC decide who was in which division? Why not a north & south?

North Carolina got to pick out the best recruiting areas and stuck Clemson and FSU with the dregs.

Ha so true.

(11-23-2015 09:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 09:05 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  How did the ACC decide who was in which division? Why not a north & south?

North Carolina got to pick out the best recruiting areas and stuck Clemson and FSU with the dregs.

If it's any consolation, we have to deal with the ignorant and generally unwashed masses, so your life could be far worse. You could be in our position.

Costal:

UNC,Duke,UVA,GT/NCST,WF,Miami,VT

Atlantic:

FSU,Clemson,UofL,Cincy/Pitt,Cuse,WVU,BC


3 other teams play 16 games every 3 years:

ND 5/5/6
Texas 5/6/5
Penn St 6/5/5

7 conference games + either ND or Texas or Penn St every year.

Highest ranked team in each division play in Conference Championship game