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Could UCF be one of the worst teams of all time?
-Lost to an FCS team
-Winless
-Outscored by 184 points (23 ppg)

There's an argument UNT could be worse this year alone but even they won a game last week.

Hang in there UCF fans. Just remember the Fiesta Bowl years.
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RE: Could UCF be one of the worst teams of all time?
All the pieces are there for a quick turnaround.
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RE: Could UCF be one of the worst teams of all time?
(11-04-2015 03:42 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  -Lost to an FCS team
-Winless
-Outscored by 184 points (23 ppg)

There's an argument UNT could be worse this year alone but even they won a game last week.

Hang in there UCF fans. Just remember the Fiesta Bowl years.

No way they are worse than Memphis of 2010 and 2011.

We were getting thrashed by the likes of Arkansas State by like 62 to 7 or something like that. 5 wins in three years...........

Just goes to show what one great HC hire can do. Plus, so so much talent within walking distance.........

TM
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RE: Could UCF be one of the worst teams of all time?
(11-04-2015 03:42 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  -Lost to an FCS team
-Winless
-Outscored by 184 points (23 ppg)

There's an argument UNT could be worse this year alone but even they won a game last week.

Hang in there UCF fans. Just remember the Fiesta Bowl years.

there is an argument for this year and this year alone...there are horrific teams every year
11-04-2015 08:00 AM
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RE: Could UCF be one of the worst teams of all time?
(11-04-2015 03:42 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  -Lost to an FCS team
-Winless
-Outscored by 184 points (23 ppg)

There's an argument UNT could be worse this year alone but even they won a game last week.

Hang in there UCF fans. Just remember the Fiesta Bowl years.

I bet they have been many other teams that have been worse. UCF has led a couple of games into the 4th Q I think.

After Northwestern beat Wyoming on September 15, 1979, the Wildcats began a streak of notority, and lost their remaining games on the season.[21] Following a winless 1980 season, Northwestern president Robert Strotz dismissed athletic director John Pont and head coach Rick Venturi, who finished 1-31-1 in three seasons.[22]
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I really don't get it. I've tried to figure out the swan dive and I have nothing. Recruiting went up after their stellar season. Same basic staff. Same basic opposition.

Crazy.

The Bottom Ten is giving UCF lots of love:

Quote:1. UC(not S)F (0-9)

No athletic director? No head coach? No problem. And still no wins

North Texas grabbed a win over the weekend.

Hope Tulsa doesn't give UCF their first win.
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(11-04-2015 07:52 AM)Tigermemphis Wrote:  
(11-04-2015 03:42 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  -Lost to an FCS team
-Winless
-Outscored by 184 points (23 ppg)

There's an argument UNT could be worse this year alone but even they won a game last week.

Hang in there UCF fans. Just remember the Fiesta Bowl years.

No way they are worse than Memphis of 2010 and 2011.

We were getting thrashed by the likes of Arkansas State by like 62 to 7 or something like that. 5 wins in three years...........

Just goes to show what one great HC hire can do. Plus, so so much talent within walking distance.........

TM

I agree with this, but will add it is more than just the coaching hire. Commitment by the school admin and booster as well as fans to football has helped as well.
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RE: Could UCF be one of the worst teams of all time?
(11-04-2015 07:52 AM)Tigermemphis Wrote:  
(11-04-2015 03:42 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  -Lost to an FCS team
-Winless
-Outscored by 184 points (23 ppg)

There's an argument UNT could be worse this year alone but even they won a game last week.

Hang in there UCF fans. Just remember the Fiesta Bowl years.

No way they are worse than Memphis of 2010 and 2011.

We were getting thrashed by the likes of Arkansas State by like 62 to 7 or something like that. 5 wins in three years...........

Just goes to show what one great HC hire can do. Plus, so so much talent within walking distance.........

TM

Those teams were bad for sure and possibly as bad. They did win games however, so there could be an interesting discussion around which was worse.

I do think that as bad as Larry Porter was, OLeary has been worse this year (and only this year). He has taken a team that was decent and led them to a potential winless season. In my biased opinion, this is one of the poorest coaching performances of all time. I understand the loss of scholarships, completion of elgibility of great players, etc, but all of that happened under his watch. Larry had the combo of his shortcomings as a head coach coupled with Tommy West's cruising through recruiting his last couple of years. However, OLeary hand crafted his own mess.

....and, in full disclosure, I've never seen OLeary as a high character, quality individual, so my opinion is biased. I see him and Cal as being pretty equal on the sleeze scale.
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RE: Could UCF be one of the worst teams of all time?
(11-04-2015 08:50 AM)JesseTU Wrote:  I really don't get it. I've tried to figure out the swan dive and I have nothing. Recruiting went up after their stellar season. Same basic staff. Same basic opposition.

Crazy.

The Bottom Ten is giving UCF lots of love:

Quote:1. UC(not S)F (0-9)

No athletic director? No head coach? No problem. And still no wins

North Texas grabbed a win over the weekend.

Hope Tulsa doesn't give UCF their first win.

What is not to get? We had ncaa sanctions and down 15 scholarship players. That isn't including the perfect storm of tons of injuries. Then we lost nearly every assistant coach last season.

We will be back. We get 25 scholarships per year for a few years to get back to normal levels.
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RE: Could UCF be one of the worst teams of all time?
(11-04-2015 09:26 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(11-04-2015 08:50 AM)JesseTU Wrote:  I really don't get it. I've tried to figure out the swan dive and I have nothing. Recruiting went up after their stellar season. Same basic staff. Same basic opposition.

Crazy.

The Bottom Ten is giving UCF lots of love:

Quote:1. UC(not S)F (0-9)

No athletic director? No head coach? No problem. And still no wins

North Texas grabbed a win over the weekend.

Hope Tulsa doesn't give UCF their first win.

What is not to get? We had ncaa sanctions and down 15 scholarship players. That isn't including the perfect storm of tons of injuries. Then we lost nearly every assistant coach last season.

We will be back. We get 25 scholarships per year for a few years to get back to normal levels.

2 years of 25 scholarships, a coach who can recruit, and a high powered offense; we'll be better than any of GOL years.
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RE: Could UCF be one of the worst teams of all time?
(11-04-2015 08:50 AM)JesseTU Wrote:  I really don't get it. I've tried to figure out the swan dive and I have nothing. Recruiting went up after their stellar season. Same basic staff. Same basic opposition.

Crazy.

The Bottom Ten is giving UCF lots of love:

Quote:1. UC(not S)F (0-9)

No athletic director? No head coach? No problem. And still no wins

North Texas grabbed a win over the weekend.

Hope Tulsa doesn't give UCF their first win.

We're #1! We're #1!
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RE: Could UCF be one of the worst teams of all time?
(11-04-2015 08:50 AM)JesseTU Wrote:  I really don't get it. I've tried to figure out the swan dive and I have nothing. Recruiting went up after their stellar season. Same basic staff. Same basic opposition.

Crazy.

The Bottom Ten is giving UCF lots of love:

Quote:1. UC(not S)F (0-9)

No athletic director? No head coach? No problem. And still no wins

North Texas grabbed a win over the weekend.

Hope Tulsa doesn't give UCF their first win.

Perfect **** storm, 2 new coordinators, the youngest roster in the fbs, rampant injuries, and a HC with one foot out the door. My personal theory is these kids didn't do squat in the offseason because their fundamentals suck and their S&C is way off and it shows.
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(11-04-2015 07:52 AM)Tigermemphis Wrote:  
(11-04-2015 03:42 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  -Lost to an FCS team
-Winless
-Outscored by 184 points (23 ppg)

There's an argument UNT could be worse this year alone but even they won a game last week.

Hang in there UCF fans. Just remember the Fiesta Bowl years.

No way they are worse than Memphis of 2010 and 2011.

We were getting thrashed by the likes of Arkansas State by like 62 to 7 or something like that. 5 wins in three years...........

Just goes to show what one great HC hire can do. Plus, so so much talent within walking distance.........

TM

Thank you. They can't steal that distinction from us
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Worst coaching job of all time. It's not WOAT talent

Is the talent depleted? Yes but not this bad.
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I forgot you guys got nailed for NCAA violations. That explains some. But I wouldn't have expected such a crash.

Did O'Leery get a golden parachute?If the violations are so much to blame, that's on his watch.
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(11-04-2015 12:14 PM)JesseTU Wrote:  I forgot you guys got nailed for NCAA violations. That explains some. But I wouldn't have expected such a crash.

Did O'Leery get a golden parachute?If the violations are so much to blame, that's on his watch.

The story is that the money GOL will get for the next 3-4 years is actually a bonus he was awarded for the Fiesta bowl win. UCF couldn't afford to pay it all up front. So he agreed to break it up and pay it out over the next 5 years.
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(11-04-2015 12:14 PM)JesseTU Wrote:  I forgot you guys got nailed for NCAA violations. That explains some. But I wouldn't have expected such a crash.

Did O'Leery get a golden parachute?If the violations are so much to blame, that's on his watch.

We lost 5 scholarships per year and some visits but the problem is that we never filled up our remaining 20 slots. Recruiting only 17-19 players each year. Only 2 of those players came from the Orlando area. O'Leary has been pissing of local recruits and coaches for years. Then all of the assistants coaches left. Finally injuries and youth did us in. We have good players, just not enough of them.
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(11-04-2015 11:45 AM)knightastic Wrote:  Worst coaching job of all time. It's not WOAT talent

Is the talent depleted? Yes but not this bad.

It was pretty bad. George piddled while Rome burned.
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I don't know about all time, but they were horrible against Cincy last Saturday. Not just two missed field goals, but two missed field goals that bounced off the uprights. Couldn't do that again if they tried.
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UNT and Kansas are worse this year than UCF
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