hey, it's a slow day at work. So here's how I see each teams (each team that is still alive) needs in getting to the playoff:

SEC
LSU - MUST win 3 of their last 4 games; if they lose, MUST need PAC 12 Champ and Big XII Champ or ACC Champ to be eliminated
Alabama - MUST win out, MIGHT need PAC 12 Champ eliminated, MIGHT need Ole Miss to win SEC Championship if they win the SEC WEST
Florida - MUST win out, and win SEC Championship

Big 10
Ohio State - MUST beat Michigan State, MUST win 3 of last 4 games, MUST win Big 10 Championship
Michigan State - MUST beat Ohio State, MUST win 3 of last 4 games, MUST win Big 10 Championship
Iowa - MUST win 3 of last 4 games, MUST win Big 10 Championship

ACC
Clemson - MUST win out
Florida State - MUST win out
North Carolina - MUST win out, needs PAC 12 Champ to be eliminated, needs Notre Dame to lose again, needs Ohio State to win Big 10, needs to beat an undefeated Clemson ACC Atlantic opponent, needs Alabama and LSU to be eliminated

Big XII
TCU - MUST win 3 of last 4, MUST beat Baylor and Oklahoma State, MUST win Big XII, might need help if they drop the Oklahoma game
Baylor - MUST win out
Oklahoma State - MUST win out
Oklahoma - MUST win out, needs PAC 12 champ to be eliminated, needs Notre Dame to lose again, needs FSU to be eliminated

PAC 12
Stanford - MUST win out, MUST win the PAC 12 Championship, needs Clemson to lose to FSU or be eliminated
Utah - MUST win out, MUST win the PAC 12 Championship, needs ACC Champion to be eliminated, needs Notre Dame to lose again, needs Ohio State to win the Big 10, needs LSU and Alabama eliminated

Notre Dame - MUST win out, needs Clemson to win the ACC and go undefeated, needs either Big XII champ or SEC Champ to be eliminated

Memphis - MUST win out, needs Notre Dame to be eliminated, needs Ole Miss to win the SEC, needs PAC 12 Champ to be eliminated, needs Clemson to win the ACC, MIGHT need FSU to beat Florida.
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Also, just looking at all of this, I think LSU, Alabama, and possibly Ohio State and Michigan State, are the only non-champion teams I could see having a chance getting in. For example, if Alabama wins out, but doesn't go to the SEC Championship, I could see them having a case for #4. For everyone else, a loss is probably death

Sorry- but FSU needs to do more than just win out. No guarantee at all to get in even if they win out(Notre Dame, Stanford could EASILY be in ahead of them).

(11-03-2015 03:09 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  hey, it's a slow day at work. So here's how I see each teams (each team that is still alive) needs in getting to the playoff:

SEC
LSU - MUST win 3 of their last 4 games; if they lose, MUST need PAC 12 Champ and Big XII Champ or ACC Champ to be eliminated
Alabama - MUST win out, MIGHT need PAC 12 Champ eliminated, MIGHT need Ole Miss to win SEC Championship if they win the SEC WEST
Florida - MUST win out, and win SEC Championship

Big 10
Ohio State - MUST beat Michigan State, MUST win 3 of last 4 games, MUST win Big 10 Championship
Michigan State - MUST beat Michigan State, MUST win 3 of last 4 games, MUST win Big 10 Championship
Iowa - MUST win 3 of last 4 games, MUST win Big 10 Championship

ACC
Clemson - MUST win out
Florida State - MUST win out
North Carolina - MUST win out, needs PAC 12 Champ to be eliminated, needs Notre Dame to lose again, needs Ohio State to win Big 10, needs to beat an undefeated Clemson ACC Atlantic opponent, needs Alabama and LSU to be eliminated

Big XII
TCU - MUST win 3 of last 4, MUST beat Baylor and Oklahoma State, MUST win Big XII, might need help if they drop the Oklahoma game
Baylor - MUST win out
Oklahoma State - MUST win out
Oklahoma - MUST win out, needs PAC 12 champ to be eliminated, needs Notre Dame to lose again, needs FSU to be eliminated

PAC 12
Stanford - MUST win out, MUST win the PAC 12 Championship, needs Clemson to lose to FSU or be eliminated
Utah - MUST win out, MUST win the PAC 12 Championship, needs ACC Champion to be eliminated, needs Notre Dame to lose again, needs Ohio State to win the Big 10, needs LSU and Alabama eliminated

Notre Dame - MUST win out, needs Clemson to win the ACC and go undefeated, needs either Big XII champ or SEC Champ to be eliminated

Memphis - MUST win out, needs Notre Dame to be eliminated, needs Ole Miss to win the SEC, needs PAC 12 Champ to be eliminated, needs Clemson to win the ACC, MIGHT need FSU to beat Florida.
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Also, just looking at all of this, I think LSU, Alabama, and possibly Ohio State and Michigan State, are the only non-champion teams I could see having a chance getting in. For example, if Alabama wins out, but doesn't go to the SEC Championship, I could see them having a case for #4. For everyone else, a loss is probably death

One thing I definitely don't see happening is Michigan State beating Michigan State...

(11-03-2015 03:23 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:09 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  hey, it's a slow day at work. So here's how I see each teams (each team that is still alive) needs in getting to the playoff:

SEC
LSU - MUST win 3 of their last 4 games; if they lose, MUST need PAC 12 Champ and Big XII Champ or ACC Champ to be eliminated
Alabama - MUST win out, MIGHT need PAC 12 Champ eliminated, MIGHT need Ole Miss to win SEC Championship if they win the SEC WEST
Florida - MUST win out, and win SEC Championship

Big 10
Ohio State - MUST beat Michigan State, MUST win 3 of last 4 games, MUST win Big 10 Championship
Michigan State - MUST beat Michigan State, MUST win 3 of last 4 games, MUST win Big 10 Championship
Iowa - MUST win 3 of last 4 games, MUST win Big 10 Championship

ACC
Clemson - MUST win out
Florida State - MUST win out
North Carolina - MUST win out, needs PAC 12 Champ to be eliminated, needs Notre Dame to lose again, needs Ohio State to win Big 10, needs to beat an undefeated Clemson ACC Atlantic opponent, needs Alabama and LSU to be eliminated

Big XII
TCU - MUST win 3 of last 4, MUST beat Baylor and Oklahoma State, MUST win Big XII, might need help if they drop the Oklahoma game
Baylor - MUST win out
Oklahoma State - MUST win out
Oklahoma - MUST win out, needs PAC 12 champ to be eliminated, needs Notre Dame to lose again, needs FSU to be eliminated

PAC 12
Stanford - MUST win out, MUST win the PAC 12 Championship, needs Clemson to lose to FSU or be eliminated
Utah - MUST win out, MUST win the PAC 12 Championship, needs ACC Champion to be eliminated, needs Notre Dame to lose again, needs Ohio State to win the Big 10, needs LSU and Alabama eliminated

Notre Dame - MUST win out, needs Clemson to win the ACC and go undefeated, needs either Big XII champ or SEC Champ to be eliminated

Memphis - MUST win out, needs Notre Dame to be eliminated, needs Ole Miss to win the SEC, needs PAC 12 Champ to be eliminated, needs Clemson to win the ACC, MIGHT need FSU to beat Florida.
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Also, just looking at all of this, I think LSU, Alabama, and possibly Ohio State and Michigan State, are the only non-champion teams I could see having a chance getting in. For example, if Alabama wins out, but doesn't go to the SEC Championship, I could see them having a case for #4. For everyone else, a loss is probably death

One thing I definitely don't see happening is Michigan State beating Michigan State...

Hey, Michigan beat Michigan once this season ...

(11-03-2015 03:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Sorry- but FSU needs to do more than just win out. No guarantee at all to get in even if they win out(Notre Dame, Stanford could EASILY be in ahead of them).

well, if FSU wins out, they will have beaten Florida and Clemson. Florida has pretty much locked up the SEC East...

Their resume will look better than Stanford, and they'll have a championship game and an actual conference championship (as opposed to ND)

it would be close, but I definitely don't think they're light years behind ND or Stanford. Stanford has the most ground to cover IMO...not only do they have to compensate for the ugly Northwestern loss, but they have to make up ground for an downtrodden PAC 12. For all the ACC criticism, the PAC 12 has looked atrocious this year....

(11-03-2015 03:24 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:23 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:09 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  hey, it's a slow day at work. So here's how I see each teams (each team that is still alive) needs in getting to the playoff:

SEC
LSU - MUST win 3 of their last 4 games; if they lose, MUST need PAC 12 Champ and Big XII Champ or ACC Champ to be eliminated
Alabama - MUST win out, MIGHT need PAC 12 Champ eliminated, MIGHT need Ole Miss to win SEC Championship if they win the SEC WEST
Florida - MUST win out, and win SEC Championship

Big 10
Ohio State - MUST beat Michigan State, MUST win 3 of last 4 games, MUST win Big 10 Championship
Michigan State - MUST beat Michigan State, MUST win 3 of last 4 games, MUST win Big 10 Championship
Iowa - MUST win 3 of last 4 games, MUST win Big 10 Championship

ACC
Clemson - MUST win out
Florida State - MUST win out
North Carolina - MUST win out, needs PAC 12 Champ to be eliminated, needs Notre Dame to lose again, needs Ohio State to win Big 10, needs to beat an undefeated Clemson ACC Atlantic opponent, needs Alabama and LSU to be eliminated

Big XII
TCU - MUST win 3 of last 4, MUST beat Baylor and Oklahoma State, MUST win Big XII, might need help if they drop the Oklahoma game
Baylor - MUST win out
Oklahoma State - MUST win out
Oklahoma - MUST win out, needs PAC 12 champ to be eliminated, needs Notre Dame to lose again, needs FSU to be eliminated

PAC 12
Stanford - MUST win out, MUST win the PAC 12 Championship, needs Clemson to lose to FSU or be eliminated
Utah - MUST win out, MUST win the PAC 12 Championship, needs ACC Champion to be eliminated, needs Notre Dame to lose again, needs Ohio State to win the Big 10, needs LSU and Alabama eliminated

Notre Dame - MUST win out, needs Clemson to win the ACC and go undefeated, needs either Big XII champ or SEC Champ to be eliminated

Memphis - MUST win out, needs Notre Dame to be eliminated, needs Ole Miss to win the SEC, needs PAC 12 Champ to be eliminated, needs Clemson to win the ACC, MIGHT need FSU to beat Florida.
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Also, just looking at all of this, I think LSU, Alabama, and possibly Ohio State and Michigan State, are the only non-champion teams I could see having a chance getting in. For example, if Alabama wins out, but doesn't go to the SEC Championship, I could see them having a case for #4. For everyone else, a loss is probably death

One thing I definitely don't see happening is Michigan State beating Michigan State...

Hey, Michigan beat Michigan once this season ...

lol

(11-03-2015 03:26 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Sorry- but FSU needs to do more than just win out. No guarantee at all to get in even if they win out(Notre Dame, Stanford could EASILY be in ahead of them).

well, if FSU wins out, they will have beaten Florida and Clemson. Florida has pretty much locked up the SEC East...

Their resume will look better than Stanford, and they'll have a championship game and an actual conference championship (as opposed to ND)

it would be close, but I definitely don't think they're light years behind ND or Stanford. Stanford has the most ground to cover IMO...not only do they have to compensate for the ugly Northwestern loss, but they have to make up ground for an downtrodden PAC 12. For all the ACC criticism, the PAC 12 has looked atrocious this year....

Pac 12 is pretty far ahead of the ACC though...

Also Northwestern loss for Stanford would be way better than FSU's loss to Georgia Tech.

It's DEFINITELY no lock at all that FSU gets in if they win out. No way in hell.

(11-03-2015 03:34 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:26 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Sorry- but FSU needs to do more than just win out. No guarantee at all to get in even if they win out(Notre Dame, Stanford could EASILY be in ahead of them).

well, if FSU wins out, they will have beaten Florida and Clemson. Florida has pretty much locked up the SEC East...

Their resume will look better than Stanford, and they'll have a championship game and an actual conference championship (as opposed to ND)

it would be close, but I definitely don't think they're light years behind ND or Stanford. Stanford has the most ground to cover IMO...not only do they have to compensate for the ugly Northwestern loss, but they have to make up ground for an downtrodden PAC 12. For all the ACC criticism, the PAC 12 has looked atrocious this year....

Pac 12 is pretty far ahead of the ACC though...

Also Northwestern loss for Stanford would be way better than FSU's loss to Georgia Tech.

It's DEFINITELY no lock at all that FSU gets in if they win out. No way in hell.

I think the committee would weigh a fluke loss against an outright loss...

Also, you don't think the committee would find wins vs. Clemson and Florida impressing? I don't see Clemson losing again....the Noles would have the best win of the bunch. Right now FSU doesn't look up to par because they haven't been playing the best, and the media is on the Stanford bandwagon. The committee will see past this and see the actual resumes. The PAC 12 is largely mediocre this year

I'm really curious to see where they put Memphis and Ole Miss.

The media does not want to admit it but Ole Miss is in a great position to Win the SEC. They get LSU at home and just have to survive Miss State and Arkansas.

(11-03-2015 03:51 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I'm really curious to see where they put Memphis and Ole Miss.

The media does not want to admit it but Ole Miss is in a great position to Win the SEC. They get LSU at home and just have to survive Miss State and Arkansas.

well, Ole Miss has got to beat Florida as well...a team that stomped them.

I don't think Ole Miss has any shot at a playoff...I also think Memphis could ride the Ole Miss wave pretty high

I do think a 1-loss Alabama or LSU get in ahead of Memphis though...LSU has one of the hardest remaining schedules, but they've also got the best odds at getting in the playoff.

(11-03-2015 03:45 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:34 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:26 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Sorry- but FSU needs to do more than just win out. No guarantee at all to get in even if they win out(Notre Dame, Stanford could EASILY be in ahead of them).

well, if FSU wins out, they will have beaten Florida and Clemson. Florida has pretty much locked up the SEC East...

Their resume will look better than Stanford, and they'll have a championship game and an actual conference championship (as opposed to ND)

it would be close, but I definitely don't think they're light years behind ND or Stanford. Stanford has the most ground to cover IMO...not only do they have to compensate for the ugly Northwestern loss, but they have to make up ground for an downtrodden PAC 12. For all the ACC criticism, the PAC 12 has looked atrocious this year....

Pac 12 is pretty far ahead of the ACC though...

Also Northwestern loss for Stanford would be way better than FSU's loss to Georgia Tech.

It's DEFINITELY no lock at all that FSU gets in if they win out. No way in hell.

I think the committee would weigh a fluke loss against an outright loss...

Also, you don't think the committee would find wins vs. Clemson and Florida impressing? I don't see Clemson losing again....the Noles would have the best win of the bunch. Right now FSU doesn't look up to par because they haven't been playing the best, and the media is on the Stanford bandwagon. The committee will see past this and see the actual resumes. The PAC 12 is largely mediocre this year

And the ACC is worse. Sorry but FSU in no shape or form controls their own destiny right now. I think FSU would have a shot, but that's it.

(11-03-2015 04:03 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:45 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:34 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:26 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Sorry- but FSU needs to do more than just win out. No guarantee at all to get in even if they win out(Notre Dame, Stanford could EASILY be in ahead of them).

well, if FSU wins out, they will have beaten Florida and Clemson. Florida has pretty much locked up the SEC East...

Their resume will look better than Stanford, and they'll have a championship game and an actual conference championship (as opposed to ND)

it would be close, but I definitely don't think they're light years behind ND or Stanford. Stanford has the most ground to cover IMO...not only do they have to compensate for the ugly Northwestern loss, but they have to make up ground for an downtrodden PAC 12. For all the ACC criticism, the PAC 12 has looked atrocious this year....

Pac 12 is pretty far ahead of the ACC though...

Also Northwestern loss for Stanford would be way better than FSU's loss to Georgia Tech.

It's DEFINITELY no lock at all that FSU gets in if they win out. No way in hell.

I think the committee would weigh a fluke loss against an outright loss...

Also, you don't think the committee would find wins vs. Clemson and Florida impressing? I don't see Clemson losing again....the Noles would have the best win of the bunch. Right now FSU doesn't look up to par because they haven't been playing the best, and the media is on the Stanford bandwagon. The committee will see past this and see the actual resumes. The PAC 12 is largely mediocre this year

And the ACC is worse. Sorry but FSU in no shape or form controls their own destiny right now. I think FSU would have a shot, but that's it.

The difference is, Stanford has no one on the PAC 12 slate that represents a Clemson. Clemson will most likely be in the playoff rankings tonight...the only way they get bumped out is with an FSU loss.

Also, FSU is playing one of the teams in the SEC Championship....

we'll see

(11-03-2015 04:00 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:51 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I'm really curious to see where they put Memphis and Ole Miss.

The media does not want to admit it but Ole Miss is in a great position to Win the SEC. They get LSU at home and just have to survive Miss State and Arkansas.

well, Ole Miss has got to beat Florida as well...a team that stomped them.

I don't think Ole Miss has any shot at a playoff...I also think Memphis could ride the Ole Miss wave pretty high

I do think a 1-loss Alabama or LSU get in ahead of Memphis though...LSU has one of the hardest remaining schedules, but they've also got the best odds at getting in the playoff.

I agree that a 1 loss UA or LSU would get in over Memphis. But I would not say no chance for Ole Miss. All of these 1 loss and undefeated teams in other conferences will start playing each other soon.

(11-03-2015 04:16 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 04:03 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:45 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:34 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:26 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  well, if FSU wins out, they will have beaten Florida and Clemson. Florida has pretty much locked up the SEC East...

Their resume will look better than Stanford, and they'll have a championship game and an actual conference championship (as opposed to ND)

it would be close, but I definitely don't think they're light years behind ND or Stanford. Stanford has the most ground to cover IMO...not only do they have to compensate for the ugly Northwestern loss, but they have to make up ground for an downtrodden PAC 12. For all the ACC criticism, the PAC 12 has looked atrocious this year....

Pac 12 is pretty far ahead of the ACC though...

Also Northwestern loss for Stanford would be way better than FSU's loss to Georgia Tech.

It's DEFINITELY no lock at all that FSU gets in if they win out. No way in hell.

I think the committee would weigh a fluke loss against an outright loss...

Also, you don't think the committee would find wins vs. Clemson and Florida impressing? I don't see Clemson losing again....the Noles would have the best win of the bunch. Right now FSU doesn't look up to par because they haven't been playing the best, and the media is on the Stanford bandwagon. The committee will see past this and see the actual resumes. The PAC 12 is largely mediocre this year

And the ACC is worse. Sorry but FSU in no shape or form controls their own destiny right now. I think FSU would have a shot, but that's it.

The difference is, Stanford has no one on the PAC 12 slate that represents a Clemson. Clemson will most likely be in the playoff rankings tonight...the only way they get bumped out is with an FSU loss.

Also, FSU is playing one of the teams in the SEC Championship....

we'll see

Remember that Stanford is also playing Notre Dame, though. All things being equal and assuming that Stanford beats ND, I think Stanford would be ahead of FSU.

If Ole Miss wins out, they'd be the SEC champion and will have more Top 30 wins than any other conference champion. They are in, hands down, IMO.

That being said, I doubt they win out, in which case they aren't even in the conversation.

In fact, if any of the four SEC contenders wins out they will have more T30 wins than any other conference champ. Alabama would have 7, LSU 6, Florida 5 and Ole Miss 5. Only Stanford and Oklahoma have a chance at getting 4 Top 30 wins. Notre Dame is the longest shot on the board, with only 2 potential Top 30 wins if they beat Stanford. Baylor and TCU must win out to reach 3 Top 30's, as neither of them has one yet.

My guess is that the committee will give more weight to how many good teams you beat than just who you lost to.

(11-03-2015 04:54 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 04:16 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 04:03 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:45 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 03:34 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Pac 12 is pretty far ahead of the ACC though...

Also Northwestern loss for Stanford would be way better than FSU's loss to Georgia Tech.

It's DEFINITELY no lock at all that FSU gets in if they win out. No way in hell.

I think the committee would weigh a fluke loss against an outright loss...

Also, you don't think the committee would find wins vs. Clemson and Florida impressing? I don't see Clemson losing again....the Noles would have the best win of the bunch. Right now FSU doesn't look up to par because they haven't been playing the best, and the media is on the Stanford bandwagon. The committee will see past this and see the actual resumes. The PAC 12 is largely mediocre this year

And the ACC is worse. Sorry but FSU in no shape or form controls their own destiny right now. I think FSU would have a shot, but that's it.

The difference is, Stanford has no one on the PAC 12 slate that represents a Clemson. Clemson will most likely be in the playoff rankings tonight...the only way they get bumped out is with an FSU loss.

Also, FSU is playing one of the teams in the SEC Championship....

we'll see

Remember that Stanford is also playing Notre Dame, though. All things being equal and assuming that Stanford beats ND, I think Stanford would be ahead of FSU.

Well, you've got to remember, an ND loss to Stanford actually diminishes Notre Dame...

Clemson could lose to FSU and win out, still being ranked in the top 10. Also, if Florida loses to FSU, they're still likely in the SEC Championship.

FSU has a lot of ground to gain...this whole conversation could be moot very soon though lol

right. I have NO problem saying that FSU would have a shot. What I do have a problem with is you saying they would control their own destiny- that all they have to do is win out. Nothing is further from the truth than that.