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RE: Dow 20,000 in 2016.
(11-03-2015 12:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  But, but Obama is the devil.

I thought he was for Main Street, not Wall Street?
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(11-03-2015 12:11 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Guy from the Wharton School of Business just on CNBC. It's amazing to think about.

Obama or not...

The market is overvalued.

What is happening is that the US, being the best run economy, is attracting excess capitol from outside the US.

And the equity markets are attracting more capitol than they should, as interest rate products don't provide much of a return.

Combine that with the threat of deflation, and it looks like the danger of an oversold market is going to get ugly.

Eventually, gravity will work its magic and, barring some economic expansion that is unlikely to occur, the real value of stocks will revert to its PE mean.

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So what to do about it? I have no idea.

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Invest in Gold/Commodities? Nope. They'll probably fall more than equities in a bubble situation and they're more volatile.

Overseas investments? Probably not the answer. Certainly there are going to be regional differences...but on the whole....Not the answer.

Real Estate? Maybe, but those can be illiquid and much of that is overpriced anyway.

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Are we looking at a crash? Not necessarily, but I'd be more comfortable with the Dow in the 13,500-15,000 range. At least that's my, non-expert view.
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RE: Dow 20,000 in 2016.
Market will lose a lot when rates are raised. Why? Because the market is stupid sometimes. BTW, some folks have been claiming DOW 20000 for years so nothing new there.
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Well if the Dow goes to 20,000, it shows how stupid the Democrats are in not privatizing Social security for individuals that want it. They could easily have made a lot more money with that increase . But We all know the Government loves to take a lot of money from Social security to fund welfare and other instant gratification things instead.
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(11-03-2015 02:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-03-2015 12:11 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Guy from the Wharton School of Business just on CNBC. It's amazing to think about.

Obama or not...

The market is overvalued.

What is happening is that the US, being the best run economy, is attracting excess capitol from outside the US.

And the equity markets are attracting more capitol than they should, as interest rate products don't provide much of a return.

Combine that with the threat of deflation, and it looks like the danger of an oversold market is going to get ugly.

Eventually, gravity will work its magic and, barring some economic expansion that is unlikely to occur, the real value of stocks will revert to its PE mean.

---

So what to do about it? I have no idea.

---

Invest in Gold/Commodities? Nope. They'll probably fall more than equities in a bubble situation and they're more volatile.

Overseas investments? Probably not the answer. Certainly there are going to be regional differences...but on the whole....Not the answer.

Real Estate? Maybe, but those can be illiquid and much of that is overpriced anyway.

----

Are we looking at a crash? Not necessarily, but I'd be more comfortable with the Dow in the 13,500-15,000 range. At least that's my, non-expert view.

+1.

Can't believe I'm agree with Tom!!
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RE: Dow 20,000 in 2016.
How about 21,650 in 2017.
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bwahahahahhaahahahahahahahaha
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To me this still looks like over inflated garbage. Luckily for Uncle Sam fracking is now so huge it just may bail his sorry *** out.
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(07-14-2017 02:56 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  To me this still looks like over inflated garbage. Luckily for Uncle Sam fracking is now so huge it just may bail his sorry *** out.

Could be. But if you weren't in, you missed a hell of a run.

It's reason/example #46329 why Market timing, or trying to guess Bulls and Bears, highs and lows, whatever is not a good idea IF you're a long term investor.

Yes, you got hammered in '08, and it certainly made a LOT of people plenty gun shy and with good reason. But, if you pulled out then and parked it all on the sideline?

Ruh roh.
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(07-14-2017 03:08 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 02:56 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  To me this still looks like over inflated garbage. Luckily for Uncle Sam fracking is now so huge it just may bail his sorry *** out.

Could be. But if you weren't in, you missed a hell of a run.

It's reason/example #46329 why Market timing, or trying to guess Bulls and Bears, highs and lows, whatever is not a good idea IF you're a long term investor.

Yes, you got hammered in '08, and it certainly made a LOT of people plenty gun shy and with good reason. But, if you pulled out then and parked it all on the sideline?

Ruh roh.

I'll just say it IS like I have too many times.....that 401k/roth/wtfe has to man(ure)euver somehow ;O

like tulips it is.....

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