(11-01-2015 05:09 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Tulane already has a beautiful new football stadium, already in a good league, hire Bowling Green head coach and you in business.

Lots potential at Tulane they'll get it figured out.

Why on God's Green Earth would anyone go from Bowling Green to Tulane? Perhaps because you don't like living in BG or prefer New Orleans but's that's about it.

That's comes off as a slight but BG is in better shape and Tulane is a lateral move at best, a lower program in a tougher conference.

(11-03-2015 09:53 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 05:09 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Tulane already has a beautiful new football stadium, already in a good league, hire Bowling Green head coach and you in business.

Lots potential at Tulane they'll get it figured out.

Why on God's Green Earth would anyone go from Bowling Green to Tulane? Perhaps because you don't like living in BG or prefer New Orleans but's that's about it.

That's comes off as a slight but BG is in better shape and Tulane is a lateral move at best, a lower program in a tougher conference.

Same reason people take jobs at places like Wake and Vandy. It's more money and an opportunity to make an impact on a bigger stage. You win at Tulane then get to choose your P5 job.

Tulane has some nice pieces in place. Your team needs better conditioning. As someone else mentioned...your team runs out of gas in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Conditioning will go a long way to resolve that.

Because winning isn't as easy as it looks

1. Tulane has a level of academic arrogance about them. They will not approach kids that everyone else in the AAC will. They will not look at most JUCO prospects. The result is that a new coach will have handicaps applied to their recruiting efforts.

2. Tulane hires really bad coordinators and coaches. This is attributed to the lousy work of our AD.

3. LSU isn't just a P5 program, they're a national title contender. (Memphis has benefited from the fall of the Vols.)

A different AD will likely result in some better coaches being hired.

Tulane doesn't play football like Baylor because Baylor prioritizes winning. Tulane doesn't, they have this internal "image" of what their program should look like.

So if this is happening the student should all get together and demand the athletic director be fired and if that's not the problem then the the president should be forced to stay out of athletic and have no say in anything that has to do with athletics

Baylor and Tulane are actually a very good comparison.

Both schools academically-inclined southern private schools that do not have a good history in football.

Baylor figured out that you can separate the academic side of the university and the athletic side. Classes can be taught to the players (of course!), but you run both ends differently. Tulane, on the other hand, still tries to hold on the 1920's model where the two branches were more intertwined. Some of the restrictions have been relaxed, but it's still above and beyond what other academically good schools do with their athletic programs.

(11-03-2015 01:23 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  So if this is happening the student should all get together and demand the athletic director be fired and if that's not the problem then the the president should be forced to stay out of athletic and have no say in anything that has to do with athletics

The president is brand new and is paying a little bit more attention - although he is an Ivy League type.

The AD is out after this football season. We're currently searching for a new one.

Who we hire as our new AD will determine whether we're going to be a high-end AAC member, or a program that needs to be kicked out to the curb.

(11-01-2015 12:25 PM)Savacool Wrote:  I am a major Tulane fan and not a troll but have been upset for decades other than our 12- 0 season,seventh in the Nation under Head Coach Tommy Bowden and Rich Rodirique in the direction of the program. Our current AD Rick Dickson is a loser hiring the worst football and basketball coaches in the nation,current losers are CJ Johnson, Bob Toledo and Chris Scelfo,football.. Add Shawn Finney and Dickerson for basketball. You have at max 25 supporters on each of the two Tulane fan forums supporting this crappy team. They need to see a head doctor for staying with this bottom program and posting. Most are retired and have nothing better to do with their time.

Its your colors. They just scream wimpy.

(11-03-2015 03:57 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 12:25 PM)Savacool Wrote:  I am a major Tulane fan and not a troll but have been upset for decades other than our 12- 0 season,seventh in the Nation under Head Coach Tommy Bowden and Rich Rodirique in the direction of the program. Our current AD Rick Dickson is a loser hiring the worst football and basketball coaches in the nation,current losers are CJ Johnson, Bob Toledo and Chris Scelfo,football.. Add Shawn Finney and Dickerson for basketball. You have at max 25 supporters on each of the two Tulane fan forums supporting this crappy team. They need to see a head doctor for staying with this bottom program and posting. Most are retired and have nothing better to do with their time.

Its your colors. They just scream wimpy.

Hey, at least they're unique. How many teams in our conference have red as a main color?

(11-01-2015 12:25 PM)Savacool Wrote:  I am a major Tulane fan and not a troll but have been upset for decades other than our 12- 0 season,seventh in the Nation under Head Coach Tommy Bowden and Rich Rodirique in the direction of the program. Our current AD Rick Dickson is a loser hiring the worst football and basketball coaches in the nation,current losers are CJ Johnson, Bob Toledo and Chris Scelfo,football.. Add Shawn Finney and Dickerson for basketball. You have at max 25 supporters on each of the two Tulane fan forums supporting this crappy team. They need to see a head doctor for staying with this bottom program and posting. Most are retired and have nothing better to do with their time.

2 really good reasons: New Orleans residents who follow football support LSU and the Saints. It would have been great for you guys if the Saints had left New Orleans after the 2005 season. But they didn't, and the NFL rigged it so they'd win a Super Bowl ensuring that the Saints will be around a long time. Even that wouldn't cause the LSU t-shirt fans to suddenly drop LSU allegiances but it sure would help you guys. It's too bad, because Tulane is a rich AAU school like Rice that ordinarily would be in a P5 conference. Tulane is kind of like Northwestern, Wake,Stanford, Vandy, Duke type as being very selective on the players they recruit as another poster mentioned. Cheers!

(11-01-2015 01:49 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 12:36 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 12:25 PM)Savacool Wrote:  I am a major Tulane fan and not a troll but have been upset for decades other than our 12- 0 season,seventh in the Nation under Head Coach Tommy Bowden and Rich Rodirique in the direction of the program. Our current AD Rick Dickson is a loser hiring the worst football and basketball coaches in the nation,current losers are CJ Johnson, Bob Toledo and Chris Scelfo,football.. Add Shawn Finney and Dickerson for basketball. You have at max 25 supporters on each of the two Tulane fan forums supporting this crappy team. They need to see a head doctor for staying with this bottom program and posting. Most are retired and have nothing better to do with their time.

Because you are a fan

That's very debatable.

The most amazing part of this whole thread is that Savacool really is a fan of the Green Wave. I think that he's very serious about everything he posts.

(11-03-2015 01:33 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 01:23 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  So if this is happening the student should all get together and demand the athletic director be fired and if that's not the problem then the the president should be forced to stay out of athletic and have no say in anything that has to do with athletics

The president is brand new and is paying a little bit more attention - although he is an Ivy League type.

The AD is out after this football season. We're currently searching for a new one.

Who we hire as our new AD will determine whether we're going to be a high-end AAC member, or a program that needs to be kicked out to the curb.

I live about an hour from NO and have children and grandchildren there so I get to NO a lot. NO media also innudates the area where we live. As a result, I have observed Tulane athletics for over fifty years. Throughout the 50s and early 60s Tulane struggled in the SEC. During that time they tried to utilize the Ivy League model. They even tried to get Rice, SMU, Vandy, GaTech, Wake and Duke to form a southern private university conference. (I know GaTech is public, but it's admission standards then were tough) For a lot of reasons no one else was interested. They then withdrew from the SEC, became and independent (when you could actually succeed as an independent) and decided to de-emphasize athletics. Since then they have continued to struggle with how to balance academics and athletics. They even considered dropping from FBS (then D1) a few years ago. Until they settle on a true identity they are going to continue to struggle.

Another thing. I don't think people realize just how small their fan base is in NO. The USM alumni association records show almost as many USM alumni in NO/SE La as there are Tulane Alums. I have visited relatives who live near Yulman on a game day/weekend and have not had any problem with traffic. Nearly everyone in her neighborhood is home or out and about running errands or going out to eat and not at the game. You can go to any neighborhood bar and it is full of people drinking and watching LSU or any one of several SEC schools on TV instead of being at the Tulane game. It has been that way for years.

Until they can settle on their identity and get the people in their own city interested, they are going to continue to struggle. It's not impossible, but they just haven't seemed to have any real interest in doing either for the past 50 years.

(11-01-2015 12:25 PM)Savacool Wrote:  I am a major Tulane fan and not a troll but have been upset for decades other than our 12- 0 season,seventh in the Nation under Head Coach Tommy Bowden and Rich Rodirique in the direction of the program. Our current AD Rick Dickson is a loser hiring the worst football and basketball coaches in the nation,current losers are CJ Johnson, Bob Toledo and Chris Scelfo,football.. Add Shawn Finney and Dickerson for basketball. You have at max 25 supporters on each of the two Tulane fan forums supporting this crappy team. They need to see a head doctor for staying with this bottom program and posting. Most are retired and have nothing better to do with their time.

This fact alone is both sad and yet comical all at the same time.

(11-03-2015 05:25 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 12:25 PM)Savacool Wrote:  I am a major Tulane fan and not a troll but have been upset for decades other than our 12- 0 season,seventh in the Nation under Head Coach Tommy Bowden and Rich Rodirique in the direction of the program. Our current AD Rick Dickson is a loser hiring the worst football and basketball coaches in the nation,current losers are CJ Johnson, Bob Toledo and Chris Scelfo,football.. Add Shawn Finney and Dickerson for basketball. You have at max 25 supporters on each of the two Tulane fan forums supporting this crappy team. They need to see a head doctor for staying with this bottom program and posting. Most are retired and have nothing better to do with their time.

2 really good reasons: New Orleans residents who follow football support LSU and the Saints. It would have been great for you guys if the Saints had left New Orleans after the 2005 season. But they didn't, and the NFL rigged it so they'd win a Super Bowl ensuring that the Saints will be around a long time. Even that wouldn't cause the LSU t-shirt fans to suddenly drop LSU allegiances but it sure would help you guys. It's too bad, because Tulane is a rich AAU school like Rice that ordinarily would be in a P5 conference. Tulane is kind of like Northwestern, Wake,Stanford, Vandy, Duke type as being very selective on the players they recruit as another poster mentioned. Cheers!

That 2009 NFC Championship game was the most rigged football contest in the history of the world.

I am glad to see someone else thought so too.

(11-03-2015 06:28 PM)PaulDel2 Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 01:33 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 01:23 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  So if this is happening the student should all get together and demand the athletic director be fired and if that's not the problem then the the president should be forced to stay out of athletic and have no say in anything that has to do with athletics

The president is brand new and is paying a little bit more attention - although he is an Ivy League type.

The AD is out after this football season. We're currently searching for a new one.

Who we hire as our new AD will determine whether we're going to be a high-end AAC member, or a program that needs to be kicked out to the curb.

I live about an hour from NO and have children and grandchildren there so I get to NO a lot. NO media also innudates the area where we live. As a result, I have observed Tulane athletics for over fifty years. Throughout the 50s and early 60s Tulane struggled in the SEC. During that time they tried to utilize the Ivy League model. They even tried to get Rice, SMU, Vandy, GaTech, Wake and Duke to form a southern private university conference. (I know GaTech is public, but it's admission standards then were tough) For a lot of reasons no one else was interested. They then withdrew from the SEC, became and independent (when you could actually succeed as an independent) and decided to de-emphasize athletics. Since then they have continued to struggle with how to balance academics and athletics. They even considered dropping from FBS (then D1) a few years ago. Until they settle on a true identity they are going to continue to struggle.

Another thing. I don't think people realize just how small their fan base is in NO. The USM alumni association records show almost as many USM alumni in NO/SE La as there are Tulane Alums. I have visited relatives who live near Yulman on a game day/weekend and have not had any problem with traffic. Nearly everyone in her neighborhood is home or out and about running errands or going out to eat and not at the game. You can go to any neighborhood bar and it is full of people drinking and watching LSU or any one of several SEC schools on TV instead of being at the Tulane game. It has been that way for years.

Until they can settle on their identity and get the people in their own city interested, they are going to continue to struggle. It's not impossible, but they just haven't seemed to have any real interest in doing either for the past 50 years.

If we put out a compelling product and schedule one and one traditional SEC OOC games (State, Ole Miss, Vandy ect) we'll attract enough people to warrant an expansion of the West side of the Stadium. If the right coaching staff is hired and supported by the admin Tulane can turn this thing around quickly.
It's a critical time for Tulane Football. We have a Board that has been stacked with anti-athletics Scott Cowen appointees & we have a brand new President from the Ivy League who has to make a decision on a new AD ASAP. Whomever is hired within the next few weeks will speak volumes as to where Tulane Football will be in the next five years.

(11-03-2015 09:54 PM)wave97 Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 06:28 PM)PaulDel2 Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 01:33 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 01:23 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  So if this is happening the student should all get together and demand the athletic director be fired and if that's not the problem then the the president should be forced to stay out of athletic and have no say in anything that has to do with athletics

The president is brand new and is paying a little bit more attention - although he is an Ivy League type.

The AD is out after this football season. We're currently searching for a new one.

Who we hire as our new AD will determine whether we're going to be a high-end AAC member, or a program that needs to be kicked out to the curb.

I live about an hour from NO and have children and grandchildren there so I get to NO a lot. NO media also innudates the area where we live. As a result, I have observed Tulane athletics for over fifty years. Throughout the 50s and early 60s Tulane struggled in the SEC. During that time they tried to utilize the Ivy League model. They even tried to get Rice, SMU, Vandy, GaTech, Wake and Duke to form a southern private university conference. (I know GaTech is public, but it's admission standards then were tough) For a lot of reasons no one else was interested. They then withdrew from the SEC, became and independent (when you could actually succeed as an independent) and decided to de-emphasize athletics. Since then they have continued to struggle with how to balance academics and athletics. They even considered dropping from FBS (then D1) a few years ago. Until they settle on a true identity they are going to continue to struggle.

Another thing. I don't think people realize just how small their fan base is in NO. The USM alumni association records show almost as many USM alumni in NO/SE La as there are Tulane Alums. I have visited relatives who live near Yulman on a game day/weekend and have not had any problem with traffic. Nearly everyone in her neighborhood is home or out and about running errands or going out to eat and not at the game. You can go to any neighborhood bar and it is full of people drinking and watching LSU or any one of several SEC schools on TV instead of being at the Tulane game. It has been that way for years.

Until they can settle on their identity and get the people in their own city interested, they are going to continue to struggle. It's not impossible, but they just haven't seemed to have any real interest in doing either for the past 50 years.

If we put out a compelling product and schedule one and one traditional SEC OOC games (State, Ole Miss, Vandy ect) we'll attract enough people to warrant an expansion of the West side of the Stadium. If the right coaching staff is hired and supported by the admin Tulane can turn this thing around quickly.
It's a critical time for Tulane Football. We have a Board that has been stacked with anti-athletics Scott Cowen appointees & we have a brand new President from the Ivy League who has to make a decision on a new AD ASAP. Whomever is hired within the next few weeks will speak volumes as to where Tulane Football will be in the next five years.

Because SEC teams like to play in NO, you have a good chance for home and home with some of them. If its at Yulman probably would have to be one of the lower end teams like Vandy, Ky or MSU. OM thinks they are too good to play in any stadium less than 40,000 and the same is true of the rest of the SEC. Of course you could always go back to the Dome for that one game.

(11-03-2015 05:58 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 01:49 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 12:36 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 12:25 PM)Savacool Wrote:  I am a major Tulane fan and not a troll but have been upset for decades other than our 12- 0 season,seventh in the Nation under Head Coach Tommy Bowden and Rich Rodirique in the direction of the program. Our current AD Rick Dickson is a loser hiring the worst football and basketball coaches in the nation,current losers are CJ Johnson, Bob Toledo and Chris Scelfo,football.. Add Shawn Finney and Dickerson for basketball. You have at max 25 supporters on each of the two Tulane fan forums supporting this crappy team. They need to see a head doctor for staying with this bottom program and posting. Most are retired and have nothing better to do with their time.

Because you are a fan

That's very debatable.

The most amazing part of this whole thread is that Savacool really is a fan of the Green Wave. I think that he's very serious about everything he posts.

Again...that's very debatable.

Nerds typically weren't as good at sports.

(11-03-2015 11:02 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Nerds typically weren't as good at sports.

That's true. But it's the nerds who effect advances in the sciences, technology & arts.
That's the rub that Tulane has been struggling with for the past 60 years.
Is sports entertainment really something that matters in the end?