(10-31-2015 08:49 PM)atljmualum Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 08:39 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Agreed on the part about not calling out specific players. I think most people on here have avoided mentioning players (at least by name/#, but sometimes referring to the position) but unfortunately some people will do that. Is been more appropriately in my opinion calling out the coaches

Yep. Not sure what the poster is referring to about calling out players.

I have no issue with it if the players put it on film in a nationally televised game. Just no personal jabs.

(10-31-2015 08:37 PM)5JMU1 Wrote:  Also, we are better than WM and Richmond. Both games, we are 2 plays away from a W.

Yeah, better talent than UR & W&M. Inferior coaching.

Maybe vs W&M, but not just 2 plays away from a win vs RU. Using that logic you could say if a team lost by 4-5 scores they were only 4-5 plays away from a win..

(10-31-2015 08:49 PM)atljmualum Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 08:39 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Agreed on the part about not calling out specific players. I think most people on here have avoided mentioning players (at least by name/#, but sometimes referring to the position) but unfortunately some people will do that. Is been more appropriately in my opinion calling out the coaches

Yep. Not sure what the poster is referring to about calling out players.

I said social media and message boards. I saw at least two tweets calling out our center by name.

I don't think the coaching is to blame, fully at least. We are soft up the middle and can't cover man to man; AT ALL.

(10-31-2015 08:57 PM)watchngars Wrote:  I don't think the coaching is to blame, fully at least. We are soft up the middle and can't cover man to man; AT ALL.

Its either lack of talent or lack of coaching. I don't think its lack of talent..

Not sure why people get bent when players' names are mentioned.

Ish Hyman dropped a touchdown that turned momentum. He knows it.

Bryan Schor threw a lame int. He knows it.

Dom Richards struggles with the high snap. He knows it.

Hart didn't root hard enough. I know it.

PurpleWave cost us the Richmond game by refusing to pen another edition of his world renowned blog. He knows it.

(10-31-2015 06:54 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Don't want to criticize players, but those 2 coaches..

One thing that annoys me about withers is he frequently blames players and not himself or coaches. He'll reference 18 and 20 year olds get coaches fired.

(10-31-2015 09:07 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 06:54 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Don't want to criticize players, but those 2 coaches..

One thing that annoys me about withers is he frequently blames players and not himself or coaches. He'll reference 18 and 20 year olds get coaches fired.

Yeah, Mickey did this as well. It's their insecurity coming out. We all do it, but it is refreshing when you meet someone who genuinely carries the load.

(10-31-2015 09:07 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 06:54 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Don't want to criticize players, but those 2 coaches..

One thing that annoys me about withers is he frequently blames players and not himself or coaches. He'll reference 18 and 20 year olds get coaches fired.

Eventually everybody sees through that.

(10-31-2015 09:07 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 06:54 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Don't want to criticize players, but those 2 coaches..

One thing that annoys me about withers is he frequently blames players and not himself or coaches. He'll reference 18 and 20 year olds get coaches fired.

They can also keep you employed.......

(10-31-2015 10:12 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:07 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 06:54 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Don't want to criticize players, but those 2 coaches..

One thing that annoys me about withers is he frequently blames players and not himself or coaches. He'll reference 18 and 20 year olds get coaches fired.

They can also keep you employed.......

I'm sick of what we have become. We would have never sought, much less fight, to separate from the British if we had to rely on attitudes of the 21st century American.

(10-31-2015 10:26 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 10:12 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:07 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 06:54 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Don't want to criticize players, but those 2 coaches..

One thing that annoys me about withers is he frequently blames players and not himself or coaches. He'll reference 18 and 20 year olds get coaches fired.

They can also keep you employed.......

I'm sick of what we have become. We would have never sought, much less fight, to separate from the British if we had to rely on attitudes of the 21st century American.

Please transfer that to the LOL thread.

Coaches can't do much when your D-Line gets pushed back 3 yards on every play.

(10-31-2015 09:01 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 08:57 PM)watchngars Wrote:  I don't think the coaching is to blame, fully at least. We are soft up the middle and can't cover man to man; AT ALL.

Its either lack of talent or lack of coaching. I don't think its lack of talent..

Looking at the 2 deeps for defense for yesterday's game. 13 of the 22 were here before Withers and were not recruited by him. None of the 6 listed down linemen are his recruits. We need him to continue to recruit guys that are better than what we currently have. We really need the recruiting process to find bigger and better for the D line and LB. I would like our NG to weigh 325 not 275. and our stud LB to weigh 245 not 230.

Regarding Gage Steele, he looked like he has a bad hamstring as he spent most of the first half on the stationary bike, or gimping flexing his left leg as he stood on the sidelines talking with the trainer.

(11-01-2015 07:10 PM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote:  Looking at the 2 deeps for defense for yesterday's game. 13 of the 22 were here before Withers and were not recruited by him. None of the 6 listed down linemen are his recruits. We need him to continue to recruit guys that are better than what we currently have. We really need the recruiting process to find bigger and better for the D line and LB. I would like our NG to weigh 325 not 275. and our stud LB to weigh 245 not 230.

Regarding Gage Steele, he looked like he has a bad hamstring as he spent most of the first half on the stationary bike, or gimping flexing his left leg as he stood on the sidelines talking with the trainer.

As I said in another thread - 19 of the 22 listed starters yesterday were redshirt Sophs or older. From a coach that believes in playing freshman that surprised me a bit. Now the two QBs that have started for us this year were two great recruits, but the rest of the remaining recruits on the team have not been overly impressive. Tutt should also be included in his solid recruits, but he started only one game this year.

The ACC suspended the officiating crew along with the replay officials for two games for their obvious missed call at the end of the Duke/Miami game. I still don't understand why they did not reverse the call post-mortem since there was no time remaining. Let's see the CAA commish put the big boy pants on and do the same this week for the obvious blown call in our game. Some accountability, please!

(11-01-2015 08:18 PM)jmutley83 Wrote:  The ACC suspended the officiating crew along with the replay officials for two games for their obvious missed call at the end of the Duke/Miami game. I still don't understand why they did not reverse the call post-mortem since there was no time remaining. Let's see the CAA commish put the big boy pants on and do the same this week for the obvious blown call in our game. Some accountability, please!

I'd like the ACC to reverse a couple of Duke's basketball national championships they never would have won without help from the officials. Irony is rich with them crying about a single football loss.

(11-01-2015 07:10 PM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote:  Looking at the 2 deeps for defense for yesterday's game. 13 of the 22 were here before Withers and were not recruited by him. None of the 6 listed down linemen are his recruits. We need him to continue to recruit guys that are better than what we currently have. We really need the recruiting process to find bigger and better for the D line and LB. I would like our NG to weigh 325 not 275. and our stud LB to weigh 245 not 230.

Regarding Gage Steele, he looked like he has a bad hamstring as he spent most of the first half on the stationary bike, or gimping flexing his left leg as he stood on the sidelines talking with the trainer.

Well any DL who are 280-300+ coming out of HS & can grow into 325, aren't lard buckets, can throw some steel around and can really move without tripping over themselves are going to be gobbled up by P5s. And any LBs who are or can grow into 245 LBs who have the quicks and can fly like a LB needs to are also likely going to be mostly gobbled up by P5s. I'd rather have smaller and fast/quick than big and slow..

And I'd rather just see a return to the 4-3..

3 Blocked PATs, (-3 pts from our possible score) PAT returned for safety (+2 for W&M) total swing of 5pts.......And How much did we lose by? You know the answer thats the game.....
You would have thought we learned after the first PAT block. - and just gone for 2 every time...OUR offense Is GOOD..even missing VAD, Schorr did a good job!
Bad calls hell yes there was many by the ZEBRAs they need to study the rule books more and open thier freaking eyes...but that doesnt negate our defense from being able to get us a few stops .....when it matters.

This was a magical season shaping up....Vad went down and it lost some of it luster but we can still make significant run at a title but the offense is not our problem. The center snapping the ball over Schorrs head well tbh he been snapping it high all night was bound to happen. (matter of practice and getting used to his new QB)
But Its the defense and special teams that can make the magic happen now . There's a bye week and lets use to to get the defense better. (firing anyone at this point wont make the difference it will just cause confusion and lack of confidence. These guys were hired for a reason...time for them to do their jobs.
Remember going 100 mph on offense only leads to the defense being on the field more often.....and they need to come up with some stops...Which means its time to step it up...ITS a TEAM GAME, and right now the Defensive and Special Teams coaching staff and teams are not pulling their share... There is talent on the defensive side of the ball. Now if ever is their time to shine...its after these two losses, lets look at taking those two losses as a learning experience and correct it. TIME FOR everyone to step up and show why your a D and Special Teams coach and why your a defensive player.
Lets make it happen!



Go DUKES!

(11-01-2015 09:31 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 07:10 PM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote:  Looking at the 2 deeps for defense for yesterday's game. 13 of the 22 were here before Withers and were not recruited by him. None of the 6 listed down linemen are his recruits. We need him to continue to recruit guys that are better than what we currently have. We really need the recruiting process to find bigger and better for the D line and LB. I would like our NG to weigh 325 not 275. and our stud LB to weigh 245 not 230.

Regarding Gage Steele, he looked like he has a bad hamstring as he spent most of the first half on the stationary bike, or gimping flexing his left leg as he stood on the sidelines talking with the trainer.

Well any DL who are 280-300+ coming out of HS & can grow into 325, aren't lard buckets, can throw some steel around and can really move without tripping over themselves are going to be gobbled up by P5s. And any LBs who are or can grow into 245 LBs who have the quicks and can fly like a LB needs to are also likely going to be mostly gobbled up by P5s. I'd rather have smaller and fast/quick than big and slow..

And I'd rather just see a return to the 4-3..

Yea he really needs to look up FCS recruiting. At those weights , if then can run they will have 20 FBS offers. And 325 nose tackles that can move are very rare, most Dline coaches like their lineman 270-310 so they can play run and pass.