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RE: Scott Shafer isn't a head coach
(11-21-2015 05:45 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
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(11-21-2015 05:01 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  03-banghead Can anyone still be behind this buffoon? 01-wingedeagle

don't think so

The problem is finding an alternative who will be better. This is a terrible year to hire a HC. And to be fair to him, the talent level is improving and the team is young. If the defense was average for a SU team under HC/DCSS, we would be WAY better.

Our assistant coaches are just a train wreck, but I've been saying that since HCDM left. It's not a surprise and it was 100% preventable. The program has just been mismanaged.
dauost and acosta are good
11-21-2015 06:54 PM
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Hearing he is gone....
11-21-2015 10:12 PM
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It has to be tough to look at Pitt and see what a good coaching hire can do...
11-22-2015 07:31 AM
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RE: Scott Shafer isn't a head coach
(11-21-2015 06:54 PM)Chris02M Wrote:  
(11-21-2015 05:45 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(11-21-2015 05:13 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(11-21-2015 05:01 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  03-banghead Can anyone still be behind this buffoon? 01-wingedeagle

don't think so

The problem is finding an alternative who will be better. This is a terrible year to hire a HC. And to be fair to him, the talent level is improving and the team is young. If the defense was average for a SU team under HC/DCSS, we would be WAY better.

Our assistant coaches are just a train wreck, but I've been saying that since HCDM left. It's not a surprise and it was 100% preventable. The program has just been mismanaged.
dauost and acosta are good

What has Acosta done?* I'll give you Dauost, and, honestly, Lester has been pretty decent. Aside from letting our QB's take an absurd number of hits, he has been a pleasant surprise. The problem is that Dauot is a single position coach, and Lester is very clearly not anywhere close to being ready to be be a HC of a P5 program.

We can't promote internally, and almost nobody on the staff would survive a coaching change. Additionally, the AD let/forced HCSS set himself up to fail. Look at the assistant coach's resumes. They pretty much all stink. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for giving people a shot and having a mix of experience and new blood. But, we have no relevant experience, as defined by experience successfully doing a similar (or the same) job at a similar level. And, without a competent staff, who HC would succeed? For no clearly apparent reason, we inexplicably painted ourselves into a corner - despite the fact that is was very obvious that we were screwing ourselves over from the get go.

The problem is that I genuinely don't know how to fix the situation. There aren't really any not terrible options. IMHO, the best option is to give HCSS an extension and the money for a real staff, and MAKE him use it.

*This is an actual, non-rhetorical question.
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11-22-2015 09:06 AM
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RE: Scott Shafer isn't a head coach
(11-22-2015 09:06 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(11-21-2015 06:54 PM)Chris02M Wrote:  
(11-21-2015 05:45 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(11-21-2015 05:13 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(11-21-2015 05:01 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  03-banghead Can anyone still be behind this buffoon? 01-wingedeagle

don't think so

The problem is finding an alternative who will be better. This is a terrible year to hire a HC. And to be fair to him, the talent level is improving and the team is young. If the defense was average for a SU team under HC/DCSS, we would be WAY better.

Our assistant coaches are just a train wreck, but I've been saying that since HCDM left. It's not a surprise and it was 100% preventable. The program has just been mismanaged.
dauost and acosta are good

What has Acosta done?* I'll give you Dauost, and, honestly, Lester has been pretty decent. Aside from letting our QB's take an absurd number of hits, he has been a pleasant surprise. The problem is that Dauot is a single position coach, and Lester is very clearly not anywhere close to being ready to be be a HC of a P5 program.

We can't promote internally, and almost nobody on the staff would survive a coaching change. Additionally, the AD let/forced HCSS set himself up to fail. Look at the assistant coach's resumes. They pretty much all stink. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for giving people a shot and having a mix of experience and new blood. But, we have no relevant experience, as defined by experience successfully doing a similar (or the same) job at a similar level. And, without a competent staff, who HC would succeed? For no clearly apparent reason, we inexplicably painted ourselves into a corner - despite the fact that is was very obvious that we were screwing ourselves over from the get go.

The problem is that I genuinely don't know how to fix the situation. There aren't really any not terrible options. IMHO, the best option is to give HCSS an extension and the money for a real staff, and MAKE him use it.

*This is an actual, non-rhetorical question.

acosta is our best recruiter in nj and florida specifically
11-22-2015 01:08 PM
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Appears Syracuse is not prepared with appropriate level of resources to sustain a top 25 program. If they want to be transformative, they need someone and staff and support facilities. Do they want to be the level of clemson, FSU????? much less UNC and VT???? Are they prepared with capital to modernize the dome???? and hire top 25 assistant coaches and aggressive recruit if need nationally….

A assistant coach or a head coach from a div 1AA just doesn't make it…..Pony up the big salaries…….[/u]
11-22-2015 02:57 PM
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(11-22-2015 02:57 PM)Fburghokie Wrote:  Appears Syracuse is not prepared with appropriate level of resources to sustain a top 25 program. If they want to be transformative, they need someone and staff and support facilities. Do they want to be the level of clemson, FSU????? much less UNC and VT???? Are they prepared with capital to modernize the dome???? and hire top 25 assistant coaches and aggressive recruit if need nationally….

A assistant coach or a head coach from a div 1AA just doesn't make it…..Pony up the big salaries…….[/u]

The irony is you're completely wrong. There's talk of drinking half a billion into the Dome and SU just modernized all the practice facilities. It's literally just bad management. The last AD's conpensation was based off of performance as a whole, not revenue sports (hence the NC's that SU is winning in things like XC)
11-22-2015 03:11 PM
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(11-22-2015 03:11 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(11-22-2015 02:57 PM)Fburghokie Wrote:  Appears Syracuse is not prepared with appropriate level of resources to sustain a top 25 program. If they want to be transformative, they need someone and staff and support facilities. Do they want to be the level of clemson, FSU????? much less UNC and VT???? Are they prepared with capital to modernize the dome???? and hire top 25 assistant coaches and aggressive recruit if need nationally….

A assistant coach or a head coach from a div 1AA just doesn't make it…..Pony up the big salaries…….[/u]

The irony is you're completely wrong. There's talk of drinking half a billion into the Dome and SU just modernized all the practice facilities. It's literally just bad management. The last AD's conpensation was based off of performance as a whole, not revenue sports (hence the NC's that SU is winning in things like XC)

Anyone who thinks Syracuse can't be a top program or can't afford too, just doesn't Know New York.
11-23-2015 02:01 PM
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RE: Scott Shafer isn't a head coach
...any more.
11-23-2015 08:02 PM
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