If it's what it takes, Withers needs to just say to the offensive staff "You got that, I need to go try to save this defense". It's that bad. He has to at least take a shot at it. The offensive staff seems to know what they're doing. On defense, we are lost.

(10-31-2015 10:08 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:24 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:20 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  757, even with the TV for us to see replay after replay, everyone on here seemed to have a different opinion of what happened and how it should have been called. About the only way for you to get any satisfaction is to watch the game replay and form your own conclusion.

Either his knee was down or not on the one call- no stadium replay. I didn't see 44 touch him on the last PI but had no replay . PI on 22 looked phantom to me too. One thing they didn't call was the WMGT left tackle holding all night

I was sitting in that end zone corner, horrendous call. They called holding... Definitely no holding, there was a hand check, but I didn't think nba touch fouls got called in tackle football

Hand check? Try a grab that turned Devonte shoulders just as he was making his break. Without the grab it's a TD.

On the fumble at the 1, second WM receiver attempted to advance the ball into the end zone, but his knee was down when he grabbed the ball. Could argue that he never had possession. Tough one to call.

I'll admit the 44 PI call on the last WM TD was a mystery. He cleanly broke up the pass, unless he did something on the WRs break? On the plus side, WM was likely to score on that drive anyway, so us scoring fast gave JMU time to respond.

No denying CAA refs are bad, just didn't see any obvious bias.

Fo those complaining about Zable, perhaps you noticed the huge addition going up. But, if Zable is so offensive to your senses please don't come back next time.

(10-31-2015 08:41 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  What did the replay show on the last PI against Brown? Was it legit? Also, what was the deal with the end zone fumble? Couldn't see it from where I was and they show few replays and have poor video quality anyway

In my opinion the coverage on the PI was pretty good. He had his back to the QB but was not touching the receiver. He put his arms out, again with his back to the QB, and deflected the ball away. I did not see any contact. It is possible it happened very early in the play but then it would have been holding and not PI.

The fumble has been covered a few times but from my various replays of the play, the original WM player fumbled the ball (his knee was not down when the ball came out) the second WM player then attempted to grab the ball. In his attempt, he pushed the ball into the end zone, around the pylon and out of the side of the end zone. He never had possession of the ball. As has been noted, if you believe that the first runner was down it should have been WM ball on the one. If you believe that the second player had possession, it should have been a touchdown.

No way it should have been ball on the one because the first guy fumbled and the second guy never had control of the ball. I have no idea what they ended up concluding by spotting it on the one.

(11-01-2015 11:11 AM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 10:08 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:24 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:20 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  757, even with the TV for us to see replay after replay, everyone on here seemed to have a different opinion of what happened and how it should have been called. About the only way for you to get any satisfaction is to watch the game replay and form your own conclusion.

Either his knee was down or not on the one call- no stadium replay. I didn't see 44 touch him on the last PI but had no replay . PI on 22 looked phantom to me too. One thing they didn't call was the WMGT left tackle holding all night

I was sitting in that end zone corner, horrendous call. They called holding... Definitely no holding, there was a hand check, but I didn't think nba touch fouls got called in tackle football

On the fumble at the 1, second WM receiver attempted to advance the ball into the end zone, but his knee was down when he grabbed the ball. Could argue that he never had possession. Tough one to call.

It really wasn't. The CAA refs this year at JMU games have made the NFL replacement refs from a few years back look like professionals in comparison.

(11-01-2015 11:56 AM)bridgeforthduke Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:11 AM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 10:08 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:24 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:20 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  757, even with the TV for us to see replay after replay, everyone on here seemed to have a different opinion of what happened and how it should have been called. About the only way for you to get any satisfaction is to watch the game replay and form your own conclusion.

Either his knee was down or not on the one call- no stadium replay. I didn't see 44 touch him on the last PI but had no replay . PI on 22 looked phantom to me too. One thing they didn't call was the WMGT left tackle holding all night

I was sitting in that end zone corner, horrendous call. They called holding... Definitely no holding, there was a hand check, but I didn't think nba touch fouls got called in tackle football

On the fumble at the 1, second WM receiver attempted to advance the ball into the end zone, but his knee was down when he grabbed the ball. Could argue that he never had possession. Tough one to call.

It really wasn't. The CAA refs this year at JMU games have made the NFL replacement refs from a few years back look like professionals in comparison.

It was a grab and reach , and it probably looked liked even more of a possession grab in slow motion. He lost control of the ball when he was trying to cross the GL.

(11-01-2015 11:11 AM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 10:08 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:24 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:20 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  757, even with the TV for us to see replay after replay, everyone on here seemed to have a different opinion of what happened and how it should have been called. About the only way for you to get any satisfaction is to watch the game replay and form your own conclusion.

Either his knee was down or not on the one call- no stadium replay. I didn't see 44 touch him on the last PI but had no replay . PI on 22 looked phantom to me too. One thing they didn't call was the WMGT left tackle holding all night

I was sitting in that end zone corner, horrendous call. They called holding... Definitely no holding, there was a hand check, but I didn't think nba touch fouls got called in tackle football

Hand check? Try a grab that turned Devonte shoulders just as he was making his break. Without the grab it's a TD.

No way. I was surrounded by tribe fans. Yes, they were elated, but all chuckled knowing it was incidental.. Even on the tv replay, there was some contact, but the defender did not impede and dedmon turned his shoulders to go up for the catch, not because of an egregious hold/grab. Ball was overthrown.

Also, you don't need a stadium reni to fix your bathroom situation.

(11-01-2015 12:17 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:56 AM)bridgeforthduke Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:11 AM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 10:08 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:24 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  Either his knee was down or not on the one call- no stadium replay. I didn't see 44 touch him on the last PI but had no replay . PI on 22 looked phantom to me too. One thing they didn't call was the WMGT left tackle holding all night

I was sitting in that end zone corner, horrendous call. They called holding... Definitely no holding, there was a hand check, but I didn't think nba touch fouls got called in tackle football

On the fumble at the 1, second WM receiver attempted to advance the ball into the end zone, but his knee was down when he grabbed the ball. Could argue that he never had possession. Tough one to call.

It really wasn't. The CAA refs this year at JMU games have made the NFL replacement refs from a few years back look like professionals in comparison.

It was a grab and reach , and it probably looked liked even more of a possession grab in slow motion. He lost control of the ball when he was trying to cross the GL.

I'm sure it did. They showed enough replays during the game. He never had possession. He grabbed it and turned but I don't see how anyone can argue he ever had control of the ball.

I also think the O under achieved in the second half. Only 14 points. One more score and we'd all be happy with the W and saying the D did enough.... Just food for thought

The dropped td, and ensuing int was a 14 pt swing that crushed our lead.

Bingo that dropped TD was huge too. That may have been the best ball Schor threw all game.

(11-01-2015 02:34 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  Bingo that dropped TD was huge too. That may have been the best ball Schor threw all game.

Yeah, that was the Ish of last year, w/ the dropped passes tendency. He's done much better this year, but that one was a big momentum changer.

(11-01-2015 11:11 AM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 10:08 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:24 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:20 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  757, even with the TV for us to see replay after replay, everyone on here seemed to have a different opinion of what happened and how it should have been called. About the only way for you to get any satisfaction is to watch the game replay and form your own conclusion.

Either his knee was down or not on the one call- no stadium replay. I didn't see 44 touch him on the last PI but had no replay . PI on 22 looked phantom to me too. One thing they didn't call was the WMGT left tackle holding all night

I was sitting in that end zone corner, horrendous call. They called holding... Definitely no holding, there was a hand check, but I didn't think nba touch fouls got called in tackle football

Hand check? Try a grab that turned Devonte shoulders just as he was making his break. Without the grab it's a TD.

On the fumble at the 1, second WM receiver attempted to advance the ball into the end zone, but his knee was down when he grabbed the ball. Could argue that he never had possession. Tough one to call.

I'll admit the 44 PI call on the last WM TD was a mystery. He cleanly broke up the pass, unless he did something on the WRs break? On the plus side, WM was likely to score on that drive anyway, so us scoring fast gave JMU time to respond.

No denying CAA refs are bad, just didn't see any obvious bias.

Fo those complaining about Zable, perhaps you noticed the huge addition going up. But, if Zable is so offensive to your senses please don't come back next time.

Okay? A renovation to make your sh!tty stadium look a little less sh!tty? The bathrooms were ridiculous. I don't care what renovation you are doing... I don't even care about the bath tubs you have to piss in, but have some damn will and have someone clean up the bathroom throughout the game.

(11-01-2015 03:27 PM)5JMU1 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:11 AM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 10:08 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:24 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:20 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  757, even with the TV for us to see replay after replay, everyone on here seemed to have a different opinion of what happened and how it should have been called. About the only way for you to get any satisfaction is to watch the game replay and form your own conclusion.

Either his knee was down or not on the one call- no stadium replay. I didn't see 44 touch him on the last PI but had no replay . PI on 22 looked phantom to me too. One thing they didn't call was the WMGT left tackle holding all night

I was sitting in that end zone corner, horrendous call. They called holding... Definitely no holding, there was a hand check, but I didn't think nba touch fouls got called in tackle football

Hand check? Try a grab that turned Devonte shoulders just as he was making his break. Without the grab it's a TD.

On the fumble at the 1, second WM receiver attempted to advance the ball into the end zone, but his knee was down when he grabbed the ball. Could argue that he never had possession. Tough one to call.

I'll admit the 44 PI call on the last WM TD was a mystery. He cleanly broke up the pass, unless he did something on the WRs break? On the plus side, WM was likely to score on that drive anyway, so us scoring fast gave JMU time to respond.

No denying CAA refs are bad, just didn't see any obvious bias.

Fo those complaining about Zable, perhaps you noticed the huge addition going up. But, if Zable is so offensive to your senses please don't come back next time.

Okay? A renovation to make your sh!tty stadium look a little less sh!tty? The bathrooms were ridiculous. I don't care what renovation you are doing... I don't even care about the bath tubs you have to piss in, but have some damn will and have someone clean up the bathroom throughout the game.

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Sorry about the Rest Room facilities at Zable Stadium - for many years we have hired JMU Grads to keep them clean, but unfortunately they don't always show up on game day.

(11-01-2015 03:27 PM)5JMU1 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:11 AM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 10:08 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:24 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:20 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  757, even with the TV for us to see replay after replay, everyone on here seemed to have a different opinion of what happened and how it should have been called. About the only way for you to get any satisfaction is to watch the game replay and form your own conclusion.

Either his knee was down or not on the one call- no stadium replay. I didn't see 44 touch him on the last PI but had no replay . PI on 22 looked phantom to me too. One thing they didn't call was the WMGT left tackle holding all night

I was sitting in that end zone corner, horrendous call. They called holding... Definitely no holding, there was a hand check, but I didn't think nba touch fouls got called in tackle football

Hand check? Try a grab that turned Devonte shoulders just as he was making his break. Without the grab it's a TD.

On the fumble at the 1, second WM receiver attempted to advance the ball into the end zone, but his knee was down when he grabbed the ball. Could argue that he never had possession. Tough one to call.

I'll admit the 44 PI call on the last WM TD was a mystery. He cleanly broke up the pass, unless he did something on the WRs break? On the plus side, WM was likely to score on that drive anyway, so us scoring fast gave JMU time to respond.

No denying CAA refs are bad, just didn't see any obvious bias.

Fo those complaining about Zable, perhaps you noticed the huge addition going up. But, if Zable is so offensive to your senses please don't come back next time.

Okay? A renovation to make your sh!tty stadium look a little less sh!tty? The bathrooms were ridiculous. I don't care what renovation you are doing... I don't even care about the bath tubs you have to piss in, but have some damn will and have someone clean up the bathroom throughout the game.

You volunteering? Otherwise, I could care less about your Zable bathroom experience and what you think of our stadium.

(11-01-2015 04:46 PM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 03:27 PM)5JMU1 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:11 AM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 10:08 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:24 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  Either his knee was down or not on the one call- no stadium replay. I didn't see 44 touch him on the last PI but had no replay . PI on 22 looked phantom to me too. One thing they didn't call was the WMGT left tackle holding all night

I was sitting in that end zone corner, horrendous call. They called holding... Definitely no holding, there was a hand check, but I didn't think nba touch fouls got called in tackle football

Hand check? Try a grab that turned Devonte shoulders just as he was making his break. Without the grab it's a TD.

On the fumble at the 1, second WM receiver attempted to advance the ball into the end zone, but his knee was down when he grabbed the ball. Could argue that he never had possession. Tough one to call.

I'll admit the 44 PI call on the last WM TD was a mystery. He cleanly broke up the pass, unless he did something on the WRs break? On the plus side, WM was likely to score on that drive anyway, so us scoring fast gave JMU time to respond.

No denying CAA refs are bad, just didn't see any obvious bias.

Fo those complaining about Zable, perhaps you noticed the huge addition going up. But, if Zable is so offensive to your senses please don't come back next time.

Okay? A renovation to make your sh!tty stadium look a little less sh!tty? The bathrooms were ridiculous. I don't care what renovation you are doing... I don't even care about the bath tubs you have to piss in, but have some damn will and have someone clean up the bathroom throughout the game.

You volunteering? Otherwise, I could care less about your Zable bathroom experience and what you think of our stadium.

(11-01-2015 03:55 PM)62Indian Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 03:27 PM)5JMU1 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:11 AM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 10:08 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:24 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  Either his knee was down or not on the one call- no stadium replay. I didn't see 44 touch him on the last PI but had no replay . PI on 22 looked phantom to me too. One thing they didn't call was the WMGT left tackle holding all night

I was sitting in that end zone corner, horrendous call. They called holding... Definitely no holding, there was a hand check, but I didn't think nba touch fouls got called in tackle football

Hand check? Try a grab that turned Devonte shoulders just as he was making his break. Without the grab it's a TD.

On the fumble at the 1, second WM receiver attempted to advance the ball into the end zone, but his knee was down when he grabbed the ball. Could argue that he never had possession. Tough one to call.

I'll admit the 44 PI call on the last WM TD was a mystery. He cleanly broke up the pass, unless he did something on the WRs break? On the plus side, WM was likely to score on that drive anyway, so us scoring fast gave JMU time to respond.

No denying CAA refs are bad, just didn't see any obvious bias.

Fo those complaining about Zable, perhaps you noticed the huge addition going up. But, if Zable is so offensive to your senses please don't come back next time.

Okay? A renovation to make your sh!tty stadium look a little less sh!tty? The bathrooms were ridiculous. I don't care what renovation you are doing... I don't even care about the bath tubs you have to piss in, but have some damn will and have someone clean up the bathroom throughout the game.

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Sorry about the Rest Room facilities at Zable Stadium - for many years we have hired JMU Grads to keep them clean, but unfortunately they don't always show up on game day.

This is spot on.

(10-31-2015 08:46 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 08:41 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  What did the replay show on the last PI against Brown? Was it legit? Also, what was the deal with the end zone fumble? Couldn't see it from where I was and they show few replays and have poor video quality anyway

I'm going to tell you the truth on the PI. He played it perfectly but he's a white DB. They stood around for several seconds and said "That guy's white, he must have done something". I still can't tell if the guy's knee was down near the end zone. That wasn't even a question on the broadcast. Have to watch it again.

I know your joking (if Not I want off this planet)

The guy recovering the fumble had his knee down, not the one who originally fumbled.

(11-01-2015 06:32 PM)Paulbintheburg Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 03:55 PM)62Indian Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 03:27 PM)5JMU1 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:11 AM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 10:08 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  I was sitting in that end zone corner, horrendous call. They called holding... Definitely no holding, there was a hand check, but I didn't think nba touch fouls got called in tackle football

Hand check? Try a grab that turned Devonte shoulders just as he was making his break. Without the grab it's a TD.

On the fumble at the 1, second WM receiver attempted to advance the ball into the end zone, but his knee was down when he grabbed the ball. Could argue that he never had possession. Tough one to call.

I'll admit the 44 PI call on the last WM TD was a mystery. He cleanly broke up the pass, unless he did something on the WRs break? On the plus side, WM was likely to score on that drive anyway, so us scoring fast gave JMU time to respond.

No denying CAA refs are bad, just didn't see any obvious bias.

Fo those complaining about Zable, perhaps you noticed the huge addition going up. But, if Zable is so offensive to your senses please don't come back next time.

Okay? A renovation to make your sh!tty stadium look a little less sh!tty? The bathrooms were ridiculous. I don't care what renovation you are doing... I don't even care about the bath tubs you have to piss in, but have some damn will and have someone clean up the bathroom throughout the game.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry about the Rest Room facilities at Zable Stadium - for many years we have hired JMU Grads to keep them clean, but unfortunately they don't always show up on game day.

This is spot on.

Good thing the JMU fans showed up to walk thru the piss in your bathroom since that Geritol fanbase of yours can't pack the place. Guess all of the Nerds are in your library.

Like I told the arse on Row R of Section B who was crowing amongst a sea of purple after the game, enjoy it now because that porous D of yours will get your arses kicked by Richmond.

(11-01-2015 06:43 PM)JMU1987UVA1998 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 06:32 PM)Paulbintheburg Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 03:55 PM)62Indian Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 03:27 PM)5JMU1 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:11 AM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  Hand check? Try a grab that turned Devonte shoulders just as he was making his break. Without the grab it's a TD.

On the fumble at the 1, second WM receiver attempted to advance the ball into the end zone, but his knee was down when he grabbed the ball. Could argue that he never had possession. Tough one to call.

I'll admit the 44 PI call on the last WM TD was a mystery. He cleanly broke up the pass, unless he did something on the WRs break? On the plus side, WM was likely to score on that drive anyway, so us scoring fast gave JMU time to respond.

No denying CAA refs are bad, just didn't see any obvious bias.

Fo those complaining about Zable, perhaps you noticed the huge addition going up. But, if Zable is so offensive to your senses please don't come back next time.

Okay? A renovation to make your sh!tty stadium look a little less sh!tty? The bathrooms were ridiculous. I don't care what renovation you are doing... I don't even care about the bath tubs you have to piss in, but have some damn will and have someone clean up the bathroom throughout the game.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry about the Rest Room facilities at Zable Stadium - for many years we have hired JMU Grads to keep them clean, but unfortunately they don't always show up on game day.

This is spot on.

Good thing the JMU fans showed up to walk thru the piss in your bathroom since that Geritol fanbase of yours can't pack the place. Guess all of the Nerds are in your library.

Like I told the arse on Row R of Section B who was crowing amongst a sea of purple after the game, enjoy it now because that porous D of yours will get your arses kicked by Richmond.

Richmond may indeed defend your virtue, only time will tell, meanwhile enjoy the loss and thank you for visiting Williamsburg.