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Have 1 senior starting on "O" that is amazing. Just think of possibilities in the next year or two...and next years recruiting class is another best in the MAC...
at this point in the recruiting cycle..
Apparently, the parents of all Fleck's recruits aren't bothered by his alleged moral turpitude...
People have affairs, people divorce at a 50% rate, and most people get over it. Some on this board remind me of that great movie about a fake evangelist, Elmer Gantry...Oh how pious can we be...

Oh great. This thread sure is going to go in a great direction. You easily could have posted the same thing without added the last 2/3s of your message. Let me get the popcorn for this one.

To keep things in perspective, our four opponents have won a total of 8 division 1 games this year. Four of those wins courtesy of Ohio.

Let's not get too carried away because we put up big numbers against Miami and Eastern - a combined 2 and 16 with their wins being Presbyterian and Wyoming.

Yeah - we are the tallest midget!!

Ya, and I'm sick to death of those other two being incessantly negative over an issue that really doesn't belong on this board... I'm simply adding my two bits on the subject.....

You must be big fan of Petrino and Pitino too.

As long as we win - right, boys?!

(10-30-2015 10:09 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  You must be big fan of Petrino and Pitino too.

As long as we win - right, boys?!

Where does one draw the line on the so-called character issue? Is it lying to recruits? Warning recruits about the health frailties of another coach? Having relations in the bathroom of a restaurant? Crashing your motorcycle with a woman who's not your wife? Infidelity?

Gossiping and character assignation like a little b!tch on a message board until one gets banned or threatened by attorneys? Is that good character or not?

I'm very confused, cuz some folks seem to have a variable definition of character depending upon their agenda and their own sense of self righteousness.

BC Bronco - Amen!

I believe you meant "assassination," o righteous one (to borrow a term).

None of us on here is a highly-paid employee publicly representing our university.

Apparently the line is drawn at - win more than you lose.

(10-30-2015 12:12 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  I believe you meant "assassination," o righteous one (to borrow a term).

None of us on here is a highly-paid employee publicly representing our university.

Apparently the line is drawn at - win more than you lose.

not being righteous, just asking questions o dense one.

Quote:None of us on here is a highly-paid employee publicly representing our university.

So that gives you the platform to judge? That's your standard?

Quote:Apparently the line is drawn at - win more than you lose.

DING,DING,DING,DING........

Not to add fuel to the fire, but Fleck may trending upwards, but his overall record is still in the red.

Message boards are gossip by their nature. You too BC, gossip queen of eloquent words and postures.

(10-30-2015 12:23 PM)wmutkelaw Wrote:  Not to add fuel to the fire, but Fleck may trending upwards, but his overall record is still in the red.

First year will be an outlier. He's gone after Dec 1.

(10-30-2015 12:23 PM)wmutkelaw Wrote:  Not to add fuel to the fire, but Fleck may trending upwards, but his overall record is still in the red.

If we win out, as is possible, he will be 20-19 (including MACC and bowl games), 19-8 last two seasons with two trophies and a post-season win. As rtl said, Year 1 will be viewed as the "outlier," and he may well be high on lists of ADs with HFC openings.

All he has to do then is win the interview, and we all know how good he is at selling himself.

(10-30-2015 12:18 PM)ESSSS Wrote:  

Quote:Apparently the line is drawn at - win more than you lose.

DING,DING,DING,DING........

That's not new, just new for us.

Quote:Where does one draw the line on the so-called character issue? Is it lying to recruits?

Depends on the lie. If it's a lie that most people don't call "lies" that one would tell the media and such, to a recruit, like "I'm going to be here for years!" when he's on the docket to be hired the following year and does, then that's not crossing the line.

Quote:Warning recruits about the health frailties of another coach?

Or how another coach will be leaving to another school, "so don't listen to what he says"? Yeah, that's not crossing the line. Nobody did the health-frality thing did they? I can only imagine that for competing against an old coach like Paterno or Jerry Kill in the recent past. I don't think that's crossing the line. It IS a legitimate thing to consider. If bashing another potential school is kosher, then that certainly is.

Quote:Having relations in the bathroom of a restaurant?

By oneself? Yeah, that's crossing the line. I learned never to do that. And if so, wash your hands before leaving. Especially when you were one of the wait staff on break. With someone else? I guess if it's with your GF or wife, and you didn't get in trouble for it or anything, but chuckles from people at the bar/restaurant that went thru the rumor mill -- naw. But if actually Caught, or being a single HC doing so with some gal he picked up at said place? Yeah, that's crossing the line.

Quote:Crashing your motorcycle with a woman who's not your wife?

If you're going to crash your motorcycle with someone, make sure it's your wife. That's totally cool to crash and injure her. Someone else? Oh hell no! Even if it's your DC who's making your team slip, that's still not cool! Well, unless he's giving up over 40pts a game. Then it might not be crossing the line.

Quote:Infidelity?

Sure, it's crossing the line in general for anyone if it's beyond a technicality (like spouse left them over 6 months ago with someone else; can't get paperwork really going for whatever reason, etc). Crossing the line in terms of staying as a HC and not having to reboot to start from scratch in the industry? Not necessarily to that extent, but it is crossing a line, yeah. But whether it's to that extent depends on the situation & conditions, I would imagine. If obvious and causing scandal in the papers, then yeah. I think THAT is the real line when it comes to anything -- did the press (or university) have a field day with it or not? If not, then it's not a line being crossed, really -- no more than a no-name art teacher in Iowa crashing his motorcycle or fooling around when he's off the clock ... regardless of the situation.

(10-30-2015 09:47 AM)Nacho Wrote:  Oh great. This thread sure is going to go in a great direction. You easily could have posted the same thing without added the last 2/3s of our message. Let me get the popcorn for this one.

Yeah that last paragraph was money.

Johnny can open a can of worms like nobodies business

(10-30-2015 10:05 AM)broncojohnny Wrote:  Ya, and I'm sick to death of those other two being incessantly negative over an issue that really doesn't belong on this board... I'm simply adding my two bits on the subject.....

Yet here you are talking about it. BRILLIANT!

"Ignore" is your friend, bj.

Ask any teenager you're around how to do it.

Unless you have a reason not to?