(11-01-2015 11:16 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Maybe Nebraska was falling way short of expectation but hell, Bo never won fewer than 9 games.

Texas has only won 9 games once since 09.

9 wins is pretty meaningless today.

Also- from 2008-14- Nebraska went 66-28. But they were 26-26 vs FBS winning teams for the season. 21-0 vs G5 and FCS teams. So only 45-28 vs P5 teams.

Nine wins is meaningless.

Just give up.

(11-01-2015 11:32 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Nine wins is meaningless.

Just give up.

With 13 games- yes. 9-4 barely gets you in the top 25- and no good bowl game.

It's like you just keep recreating a new argument every time you lose one.

(11-01-2015 11:26 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:16 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Maybe Nebraska was falling way short of expectation but hell, Bo never won fewer than 9 games.

Texas has only won 9 games once since 09.

9 wins is pretty meaningless today.

Also- from 2008-14- Nebraska went 66-28. But they were 26-26 vs FBS winning teams for the season. 21-0 vs G5 and FCS teams. So only 45-28 vs P5 teams.

I can see what you mean sort of.

Did they fall well below expectations? Of course! Were there some embarrassing losses in there? Yes.

And, if you look at Nebraska v. Texas since 2000 then yes Texas has been much better even though they have been much worse since 09.

I'm not seeing how that is connected to the Big10 though.

HeartofDixie, his "big point" is that Nebraska is having a bad year. I don't know why he is so angry but he is.

(11-01-2015 11:37 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:26 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:16 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Maybe Nebraska was falling way short of expectation but hell, Bo never won fewer than 9 games.

Texas has only won 9 games once since 09.

9 wins is pretty meaningless today.

Also- from 2008-14- Nebraska went 66-28. But they were 26-26 vs FBS winning teams for the season. 21-0 vs G5 and FCS teams. So only 45-28 vs P5 teams.

I can see what you mean sort of.

Did they fall well below expectations? Of course! Were there some embarrassing losses in there? Yes.

And, if you look at Nebraska v. Texas since 2000 then yes Texas has been much better even though they have been much worse since 09.

I'm not seeing how that is connected to the Big10 though.

my point is that Nebraska has been pretty darn mediocre since 2001. That it was like that even before Nebraska went to the Big Ten. This is an historically bad year though for Nebraska- which is what was said on here early in the thread that h1 took exception to for some reason- trying to say that Auburn is having as bad of a year(they aren't- Auburn will still go bowling- and also, it's not like Auburns worst team in 50+ years). H1 wants to deflect all criticism of the Big Ten- and that's a joke and not happening.

(11-01-2015 11:44 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:37 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:26 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:16 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Maybe Nebraska was falling way short of expectation but hell, Bo never won fewer than 9 games.

Texas has only won 9 games once since 09.

9 wins is pretty meaningless today.

Also- from 2008-14- Nebraska went 66-28. But they were 26-26 vs FBS winning teams for the season. 21-0 vs G5 and FCS teams. So only 45-28 vs P5 teams.

I can see what you mean sort of.

Did they fall well below expectations? Of course! Were there some embarrassing losses in there? Yes.

And, if you look at Nebraska v. Texas since 2000 then yes Texas has been much better even though they have been much worse since 09.

I'm not seeing how that is connected to the Big10 though.

my point is that Nebraska has been pretty darn mediocre since 2001. That it was like that even before Nebraska went to the Big Ten. This is an historically bad year though for Nebraska- which is what was said on here early in the thread that h1 took exception to for some reason- trying to say that Auburn is having as bad of a year(they aren't- Auburn will still go bowling- and also, it's not like Auburns worst team in 50+ years). H1 wants to deflect all criticism of the Big Ten- and that's a joke and not happening.

Ah ha! So, as I said, its not just about Nebraska it is about The Big Ten for you.

I knew that you would give that up in your anger addled tantrum.

Most schools would love 10 win seasons and births in their conference championship game.

Your attempt to downplay that fully shows your agenda as does your attempt to direct this at The Big Ten.

Poor little SEC boy. On one hand you attack 10 win seasons for Nebraska and then say that its ok that Auburn is simply going to a bowl. Such an SEC hypocrite you are.

you were the one that brought up the Big Ten in your first post on this matter...
Come on, take your anti Big Ten rhetoric to your own hate fest thread.

Sorry but 9-10 win seasons today just don't mean what they used to with only 11 game regular seasons.

I brought up The Big Ten because that was JR's agenda, as he showed with his comment directed at me about Oklahoma. That showed what was on his mind. Oklahoma was not on my mind nor was expansion. That is not what this thread is about and I was calling him out on taking the thread in that direction.

Now I am going to use another stat to further bury you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Au...ll_seasons

In 2012 Auburn went 3-9 after having a history not as good as Nebraska's previous to this year. After that? They went to the National Championship game. The point? You and your agenda are making a bigger deal out of a bad season for Nebraska because your agenda is to attack anything connected to The Big Ten. I am not defending The Big Ten. I am just calling you out and pointing out what you are doing and just how pathetic and hypocritical it is.

(11-01-2015 11:44 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:37 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:26 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:16 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Maybe Nebraska was falling way short of expectation but hell, Bo never won fewer than 9 games.

Texas has only won 9 games once since 09.

9 wins is pretty meaningless today.

Also- from 2008-14- Nebraska went 66-28. But they were 26-26 vs FBS winning teams for the season. 21-0 vs G5 and FCS teams. So only 45-28 vs P5 teams.

I can see what you mean sort of.

Did they fall well below expectations? Of course! Were there some embarrassing losses in there? Yes.

And, if you look at Nebraska v. Texas since 2000 then yes Texas has been much better even though they have been much worse since 09.

I'm not seeing how that is connected to the Big10 though.

my point is that Nebraska has been pretty darn mediocre since 2001. That it was like that even before Nebraska went to the Big Ten. This is an historically bad year though for Nebraska- which is what was said on here early in the thread that h1 took exception to for some reason- trying to say that Auburn is having as bad of a year(they aren't- Auburn will still go bowling- and also, it's not like Auburns worst team in 50+ years). H1 wants to deflect all criticism of the Big Ten- and that's a joke and not happening.

I think mediocre by Nebraska standards, as one of the premier teams in the country, is fair. They have won a lot of games, 6 10 or more win seasons and 5 9 win seasons, but have little to show for it on a national stage.

If you compare that to say, Auburn, then in terms of sheer wins they are a lot better. In that same stretch Auburn only won 10 or more games 4 times and had 3 9 win seasons. But, they won a NC and played for another.

Still, I can name a lot of teams that would love to be sitting here with 6 10 win seasons in the last 14 years. That said, I can name a lot more teams that would rather have won a NC in that same stretch.

I do remember a lot of Nebraska fans saying they were going to tear into the weak Big10 though and that didn't exactly pan out.

you aren't burying me....

I'm bringing historical perspective to this. You say Auburn 2012. They had a 3 win season back in 1998. So 17 years ago.

Nebraska's season is it's worst since at least 1961. Sorry- but that IS a big deal. If someone else, regardless of conference, was having that bad of a year- I'd be saying it. You are just acting like it's just a bad season. Sorry- but Nebraska is having an historically bad season for their program. Big difference there.

(11-01-2015 11:57 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:44 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:37 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:26 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 11:16 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Maybe Nebraska was falling way short of expectation but hell, Bo never won fewer than 9 games.

Texas has only won 9 games once since 09.

9 wins is pretty meaningless today.

Also- from 2008-14- Nebraska went 66-28. But they were 26-26 vs FBS winning teams for the season. 21-0 vs G5 and FCS teams. So only 45-28 vs P5 teams.

I can see what you mean sort of.

Did they fall well below expectations? Of course! Were there some embarrassing losses in there? Yes.

And, if you look at Nebraska v. Texas since 2000 then yes Texas has been much better even though they have been much worse since 09.

I'm not seeing how that is connected to the Big10 though.

my point is that Nebraska has been pretty darn mediocre since 2001. That it was like that even before Nebraska went to the Big Ten. This is an historically bad year though for Nebraska- which is what was said on here early in the thread that h1 took exception to for some reason- trying to say that Auburn is having as bad of a year(they aren't- Auburn will still go bowling- and also, it's not like Auburns worst team in 50+ years). H1 wants to deflect all criticism of the Big Ten- and that's a joke and not happening.

I think mediocre by Nebraska standards, as one of the premier teams in the country, is fair. They have won a lot of games, 6 10 or more win seasons and 5 9 win seasons, but have little to show for it on a national stage.

If you compare that to say, Auburn, then in terms of sheer wins they are a lot better. In that same stretch Auburn only won 10 or more games 4 times and had 3 9 win seasons. But, they won a NC and played for another.

Still, I can name a lot of teams that would love to be sitting here with 6 10 win seasons in the last 14 years. That said, I can name a lot more teams that would rather have won a NC in that same stretch.

I do remember a lot of Nebraska fans saying they were going to tear into the weak Big10 though and that didn't exactly pan out.

GREAT post.

I would say as well- last 14 years....
Nebraska 113-66 43-59 vs winning teams
Auburn 122-54 64-51 vs winning teams

sorry but what Nebraska has been last 14 years like you said is definitely mediocre by Nebraska standards.

(11-01-2015 12:00 PM)stever20 Wrote:  you aren't burying me....

I'm bringing historical perspective to this. You say Auburn 2012. They had a 3 win season back in 1998. So 17 years ago.

Nebraska's season is it's worst since at least 1961. Sorry- but that IS a big deal. If someone else, regardless of conference, was having that bad of a year- I'd be saying it. You are just acting like it's just a bad season. Sorry- but Nebraska is having an historically bad season for their program. Big difference there.

No, actually its not that big of a difference. It is a bad season. Your attempt to aggrandize that with the "historical" nonsense is just amusing.

It's a bad season, that is what I have been saying. What I have argued is you and JR trying to make it into something bigger than it is.

It is a bad season during which they have had some terrible luck at the end of their games.

Yes, you are buried as are your pills it seems.

(11-01-2015 12:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 12:00 PM)stever20 Wrote:  you aren't burying me....

I'm bringing historical perspective to this. You say Auburn 2012. They had a 3 win season back in 1998. So 17 years ago.

Nebraska's season is it's worst since at least 1961. Sorry- but that IS a big deal. If someone else, regardless of conference, was having that bad of a year- I'd be saying it. You are just acting like it's just a bad season. Sorry- but Nebraska is having an historically bad season for their program. Big difference there.

No, actually its not that big of a difference. It is a bad season. Your attempt to aggrandize that with the "historical" nonsense is just amusing.

It's a bad season, that is what I have been saying. What I have argued is you and JR trying to make it into something bigger than it is.

It is a bad season during which they have had some terrible luck at the end of their games.

Yes, you are buried as are your pills it seems.

So this year isn't Nebraska's worst since 1961? Are you ******* serious? Sorry- but that is big.

Also, if they lose out- going 3-9- they would be the worst since 1957, and tied for the most losses ever in program history. If that's not historical, what the **** is?

The fact that they haven't had a season like that since 1961 where as illustrious programs like Auburn have had such as recently as....2012, well now that IS big. Rather impressive actually on Nebraska's part.

Yet here you are SEC boy, trying to make that out to be a bad thing instead of a good thing. Of course....