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With the current NCAA climate of non-punishment, who really cares if it goes bust in a couple years. You have built up a team full of solid player by then, and if you get the right guy, you have a chance to sustain the improved recruiting. Its a sad situation, but that is the game you are playing in NCAA sports these days.

He's certainly earned the moniker Slick Rick.

(05-24-2017 12:24 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  With the current NCAA climate of non-punishment, who really cares if it goes bust in a couple years. You have built up a team full of solid player by then, and if you get the right guy, you have a chance to sustain the improved recruiting. Its a sad situation, but that is the game you are playing in NCAA sports these days.

Sad but true. If cheating in recruiting builds the program up and you get a few top 25 rankings and a string of 4 or 5 NCAA tournaments that is what the public, fans and recruits will remember. Then IF you get busted the NCAA slaps you on the wrist for a season or two, unless you're UNC, then nothing happens at all. The benefits far exceed the punishment in the off chance you get caught. Thats part of the problem.

I would really like to know what he is telling these kids on the recruiting visits.

(05-24-2017 12:41 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  I would really like to know what he is telling these kids on the recruiting visits.

He'$ probably $tre$$ing how important $tudy hall i$

He's brought SEC bag men to CUSA.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...-interview

(05-24-2017 12:31 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 12:24 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  With the current NCAA climate of non-punishment, who really cares if it goes bust in a couple years. You have built up a team full of solid player by then, and if you get the right guy, you have a chance to sustain the improved recruiting. Its a sad situation, but that is the game you are playing in NCAA sports these days.

Sad but true. If cheating in recruiting builds the program up and you get a few top 25 rankings and a string of 4 or 5 NCAA tournaments that is what the public, fans and recruits will remember. Then IF you get busted the NCAA slaps you on the wrist for a season or two, unless you're UNC, then nothing happens at all. The benefits far exceed the punishment in the off chance you get caught. Thats part of the problem.

Not to mention, the punishment that they typically dole out is the loss of 2 scholarships, which in the age of transfers means almost nothing since many teams don't ever use all of their scholarships due to guys leaving and not being able to add a late commit or teams holding one back in case a really good transfer in option pops up.

(05-24-2017 01:12 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 12:31 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 12:24 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  With the current NCAA climate of non-punishment, who really cares if it goes bust in a couple years. You have built up a team full of solid player by then, and if you get the right guy, you have a chance to sustain the improved recruiting. Its a sad situation, but that is the game you are playing in NCAA sports these days.

Sad but true. If cheating in recruiting builds the program up and you get a few top 25 rankings and a string of 4 or 5 NCAA tournaments that is what the public, fans and recruits will remember. Then IF you get busted the NCAA slaps you on the wrist for a season or two, unless you're UNC, then nothing happens at all. The benefits far exceed the punishment in the off chance you get caught. Thats part of the problem.

Not to mention, the punishment that they typically dole out is the loss of 2 scholarships, which in the age of transfers means almost nothing since many teams don't ever use all of their scholarships due to guys leaving and not being able to add a late commit or teams holding one back in case a really good transfer in option pops up.

Hell, if they get slapped with the pulling of 2 scholarships, they can hire Jeff Jones and they won't need the scholarships anyway.

(05-24-2017 01:54 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 01:12 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 12:31 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 12:24 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  With the current NCAA climate of non-punishment, who really cares if it goes bust in a couple years. You have built up a team full of solid player by then, and if you get the right guy, you have a chance to sustain the improved recruiting. Its a sad situation, but that is the game you are playing in NCAA sports these days.

Sad but true. If cheating in recruiting builds the program up and you get a few top 25 rankings and a string of 4 or 5 NCAA tournaments that is what the public, fans and recruits will remember. Then IF you get busted the NCAA slaps you on the wrist for a season or two, unless you're UNC, then nothing happens at all. The benefits far exceed the punishment in the off chance you get caught. Thats part of the problem.

Not to mention, the punishment that they typically dole out is the loss of 2 scholarships, which in the age of transfers means almost nothing since many teams don't ever use all of their scholarships due to guys leaving and not being able to add a late commit or teams holding one back in case a really good transfer in option pops up.

Hell, if they get slapped with the pulling of 2 scholarships, they can hire Jeff Jones and they won't need the scholarships anyway.

Oh, they'd need the scholarships alright. Most of the 4 and 5 star recruits would be transferring out when they learned of the slow paced, slug-it-out rock fights they had in their immediate future if Jones became their coach. Players that talented are used to scoring a lot and typically want to run and gun in a fast paced system.

(05-24-2017 03:29 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 01:54 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 01:12 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 12:31 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 12:24 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  With the current NCAA climate of non-punishment, who really cares if it goes bust in a couple years. You have built up a team full of solid player by then, and if you get the right guy, you have a chance to sustain the improved recruiting. Its a sad situation, but that is the game you are playing in NCAA sports these days.

Sad but true. If cheating in recruiting builds the program up and you get a few top 25 rankings and a string of 4 or 5 NCAA tournaments that is what the public, fans and recruits will remember. Then IF you get busted the NCAA slaps you on the wrist for a season or two, unless you're UNC, then nothing happens at all. The benefits far exceed the punishment in the off chance you get caught. Thats part of the problem.

Not to mention, the punishment that they typically dole out is the loss of 2 scholarships, which in the age of transfers means almost nothing since many teams don't ever use all of their scholarships due to guys leaving and not being able to add a late commit or teams holding one back in case a really good transfer in option pops up.

Hell, if they get slapped with the pulling of 2 scholarships, they can hire Jeff Jones and they won't need the scholarships anyway.

Oh, they'd need the scholarships alright. Most of the 4 and 5 star recruits would be transferring out when they learned of the slow paced, slug-it-out rock fights they had in their immediate future if Jones became their coach. Players that talented are used to scoring a lot and typically want to run and gun in a fast paced system.

You mean like the ones Wood and Jones promised?

I'd trade Jones for Stansbury in a heartbeat.

The dirty rumors are nothing more than rumors.

Meanwhile JJ was shady at UVA and Blaine was an alky and some of the same fans trashing Stansbury did nothing but defend the both of them.

Ahhhh hypocrites, you make the world a much more entertaining place.

(05-24-2017 09:38 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  I'd trade Jones for Stansbury in a heartbeat.

The dirty rumors are nothing more than rumors.

Meanwhile JJ was shady at UVA and Blaine was an alky and some of the same fans trashing Stansbury did nothing but defend the both of them.

Ahhhh hypocrites, you make the world a much more entertaining place.

Stansbury is a joke of a coach.

And stansbury has been caught and punished in the past for cheating. Lets try to separate fact from fiction.

(05-24-2017 09:38 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  I'd trade Jones for Stansbury in a heartbeat.

Of course you would, but I dont think you needed to verbally say it because this is something that we all could've assumed from you...

@ Monarx. Except one thing. Jeff Jones never said he was gonna install a run and gun offense. People keep saying that, just nottrue.

http://www.maceandcrown.com/2013/04/24/t...eff-jones/

A wise man once said that “patience is a virtue,” and it is essential to the process that Old Dominion is going through. “Hopefully we’ll be able to accomplish those goals and people will give us a chance to get there and we’ll see that the things work out.” It has been awhile since we last saw the run and gun style of basketball that season ticket fans yearn for, but Jones feels like what they will install will be effective and win games. “When I was at American we had at different times, different styles. There were certainly years where we were more individually talented and we played a more fast pace style and there were times when we were still successful but maybe we had some really good pieces but maybe we didn’t have the ability to create offensive opportunities,” Jones said.

(05-25-2017 07:39 AM)mac Wrote:  @ Monarx. Except one thing. Jeff Jones never said he was gonna install a run and gun offense. People keep saying that, just nottrue.

http://www.maceandcrown.com/2013/04/24/t...eff-jones/

A wise man once said that “patience is a virtue,” and it is essential to the process that Old Dominion is going through. “Hopefully we’ll be able to accomplish those goals and people will give us a chance to get there and we’ll see that the things work out.” It has been awhile since we last saw the run and gun style of basketball that season ticket fans yearn for, but Jones feels like what they will install will be effective and win games. “When I was at American we had at different times, different styles. There were certainly years where we were more individually talented and we played a more fast pace style and there were times when we were still successful but maybe we had some really good pieces but maybe we didn’t have the ability to create offensive opportunities,” Jones said.

Good article. I guess I assumed he said that due to it being brought up here a lot. I know Wood said thats what he wanted when discussing the search, and probably thought he had it when it looked like Enfield was coming.

Speaking of old quotes, I found these interesting:

"Ultimately, I feel like my role is to put ODU men's basketball in the best possible position to win Conference USA championships and advance in the NCAA tournament," Selig said

"If people don't agree with that, John Wooden was not available for us," Selig added. "I understand there are naysayers and there are people who would like to take shots, and they can do that. I just hope that they admit they were wrong in several years when Old Dominion men's basketball is operating at a very high level."

Sure Wood, whatever you say buddy.

(05-25-2017 11:58 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Speaking of old quotes, I found these interesting:

"Ultimately, I feel like my role is to put ODU men's basketball in the best possible position to win Conference USA championships and advance in the NCAA tournament," Selig said

"If people don't agree with that, John Wooden was not available for us," Selig added. "I understand there are naysayers and there are people who would like to take shots, and they can do that. I just hope that they admit they were wrong in several years when Old Dominion men's basketball is operating at a very high level."

Sure Wood, whatever you say buddy.

I can't believe he said that. Such a douchey comment for a university admin.

I'd love to see a link to the article in which he made those comments, especially the second one.

Any work on the kid who visited? When do we expect his decision?